GOP governnors want the stimulus passed

[Orange_Juice]

There are only 680,000 people in Alaska, and they get more federal money per capita than any other state despite having huge tax revenues from oil companies.

Alaska is a welfare queen.

Welfare queens=Real Americans

 

[xsited1]

And now you see the problem conservatives have with the GOP. As the Democratic Party moves closer to a 'Socialist' party, the GOP is becoming the 'new' Democrat party. Hopefully, the GOP will either return to their conservative roots our they will go extinct. The US does not need two Democratic parties.

 

[Xenophon]

So?

So....even Republicans support this measure. The GOPers that don't support it understand it will pass anyway. They just want to play Fiscal Conservatives for the tv cameras and so Rush Limpdick will not bash them on the radio

As opposed to the limp dick democrats who are disguising socialism as 'stimulus?'

Get it through your partisan head, they both suck, and NIETHER have your best interests at heart.

 

[DiveCon]

This is some of the funniest shit ever!

Sarah Palin Lobbying on BEHALF of Obama's Stimulus Bill

GOP governors press Congress to pass stimulus bill
Saturday, January 31, 2009 3:20 PM EST
The Associated Press


NEW YORK (AP) — Most Republican governors have broken with their GOP colleagues in Congress and are pushing for passage of President Barack Obama's economic aid plan that would send billions to states for education, public works and health care.

Their state treasuries drained by the financial crisis, governors would welcome the money from Capitol Hill, where GOP lawmakers are more skeptical of Obama's spending priorities.

The 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, planned to meet in Washington this weekend with Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and other senators to press for her state's share of the package.

except the AP, like usual, LIED in its headline
no where in the story does it say anything more than Palin is making sure Alaska gets its share
personally, i'd rather she be opposing it but thats not the reality
everyone knows the dems control what passes and what doesnt

 

[editec]

GOP governnors want the stimulus passed

Of course they do.

They, unlike the pampered idiots in CONGRESS, actually have to RUN things in the REAL WORLD.

They are responsible for the wellbeing of their citizens and their states.

And, thanks to years of goofy taxation and revenue sharing and free trade policies, the goverernors cannot deal with the problems their citizens are currently facing.

Do you people have any idea how many Mainers are now dependent on the STATE for their heat, their food, their homes, their utilities and their health care?

Maine has lost, in relative terms, more PRODUCTION JOBS than any other state in the Union!

Mainers, people who worked their asses off in factories making shes and garment, in the deep woods harvesting wood, on the seas harvesting fish, NOW cannot find JOBS.

We buy our wood products from CANADA, we buy our clothers and shoes from ASIA, and the world's oceans are practically harvested OUT.

Therefore the citizens of Maine cannot pay TAXES.

Therefore the citizens of Maine become DEPENDENT ON THE STATE.

duh!


Thankfully they can all buy slave-producted shirts cheaply, thanks to the benefits of FREE TRADE.

 

[Red Dawn]

Stimulus money should only be spent in Congressional districts whose Congressperson voted for the package.

That's totally unfair. Red districts shouldn't have to pay tax dollars to build infrastructure in blue districts without deriving any benefit themselves.

The only way I can see to make your proposal equitable, is to transfer the entire cost of the Iraq war onto red districts. Let them pay for the trillion dollar iraq war. And blue districts can pay to use the stimulus to build infrastructure in america, but only in blue districts.

 

[editec]

Oh please.

Let's NOT make this a Red state Blue state thing, okay?

We're ALL in this mess together, folks.

Some states will always be the winners or losers in the tax paid v money coming back department.

Large population centers (like the North East) create more wealth so they pay more taxes.

And since develivery of social services costs more in rural districts, they will probably always get more money back then they pay in,

Nevertheless, we need people in those rural areas because the cities depend on the rural areas, no less than the rural areas depend on the cities.

We're Americans first -- damn it-- not Alabaman or Mainers or whathave you.

These sorts of regionalist squabbles are exactly why the bastards keep winning ya know.

Divide and conquor

 

[Skeptik]

It is no surprise that GOP governors are in favor of the stimulus package, while GOP in Congress oppose it. The governors see it as a way to bail out their states in a time of fiscal crisis. The congresscritters see it as a way to score political points with the limited government people who (they hope) will reelect them.

If the stimulus package helps, or if the economy turns around on its own, which is more likely, then the GOP in Congress can simply point out how much better off we'd be without the massive debt. They won't, of course, point out that the debt was already massive due to Republican economic policy, but can now blame the entire thing on "liberals" or "leftists." If, on the other hand, the economy worsens, they can say, "See, I told you so. Obama's liberal bailout plan didn't work."

Never mind that the stimulus plan started while Bush was pres. That's immaterial to the spin they'll want to put on the whole thing. You see, it's a win- win for Congressional GOP: Either the plan worked, but we're saddled with a "liberal" debt, or it didn't work, and they told us so.

It's called partisanship, not ideology. Ideology has very little to do with what either party does. Partisanship and scoring political points is the name of the game. The governors can score points by keeping their states afloat, so they favor the bailout.

My cynicism will usually lead me to the truth when it comes to politics.

 

[DiveCon]

It is no surprise that GOP governors are in favor of the stimulus package, while GOP in Congress oppose it. The governors see it as a way to bail out their states in a time of fiscal crisis. The congresscritters see it as a way to score political points with the limited government people who (they hope) will reelect them.

If the stimulus package helps, or if the economy turns around on its own, which is more likely, then the GOP in Congress can simply point out how much better off we'd be without the massive debt. They won't, of course, point out that the debt was already massive due to Republican economic policy, but can now blame the entire thing on "liberals" or "leftists." If, on the other hand, the economy worsens, they can say, "See, I told you so. Obama's liberal bailout plan didn't work."

Never mind that the stimulus plan started while Bush was pres. That's immaterial to the spin they'll want to put on the whole thing. You see, it's a win- win for Congressional GOP: Either the plan worked, but we're saddled with a "liberal" debt, or it didn't work, and they told us so.

It's called partisanship, not ideology. Ideology has very little to do with what either party does. Partisanship and scoring political points is the name of the game. The governors can score points by keeping their states afloat, so they favor the bailout.

My cynicism will usually lead me to the truth when it comes to politics.

i dont take it as the GOP governors supporting it so much as they know that no matter what the congressional GOP does, it WILL pass
thus they are only interested in seeing that their states are not "punished" for them being GOP

 

[Munin]

What will happen to the GOP?

And what happens to the credibility of the GOP?

 

[Old Rocks]

What will happen to the GOP?

And what happens to the credibility of the GOP?

Credibility of the GOP? You cannot subtract from zero.

 

[Skeptik]

What will happen to the GOP?

And what happens to the credibility of the GOP?

The GOP? You mean the party of limited government and fiscal responsibility that got into power and outspent the tax and spend Democrats, that GOP? what, indeed, has happened to its credibility?

 

[sealybobo]

It is no surprise that GOP governors are in favor of the stimulus package, while GOP in Congress oppose it. The governors see it as a way to bail out their states in a time of fiscal crisis. The congresscritters see it as a way to score political points with the limited government people who (they hope) will reelect them.

If the stimulus package helps, or if the economy turns around on its own, which is more likely, then the GOP in Congress can simply point out how much better off we'd be without the massive debt. They won't, of course, point out that the debt was already massive due to Republican economic policy, but can now blame the entire thing on "liberals" or "leftists." If, on the other hand, the economy worsens, they can say, "See, I told you so. Obama's liberal bailout plan didn't work."

Never mind that the stimulus plan started while Bush was pres. That's immaterial to the spin they'll want to put on the whole thing. You see, it's a win- win for Congressional GOP: Either the plan worked, but we're saddled with a "liberal" debt, or it didn't work, and they told us so.

It's called partisanship, not ideology. Ideology has very little to do with what either party does. Partisanship and scoring political points is the name of the game. The governors can score points by keeping their states afloat, so they favor the bailout.

My cynicism will usually lead me to the truth when it comes to politics.

i dont take it as the GOP governors supporting it so much as they know that no matter what the congressional GOP does, it WILL pass
thus they are only interested in seeing that their states are not "punished" for them being GOP

You're god damn right they want their share of the pork.

The only state not getting any pork is John McCain's. Because John is a maverick who doesn't believe in pork. So Arizona better get squat!!!

 

[Truthmatters]

Like I said its a rift in the party.

They will forgive these R govenors and voting for it but they will never forgive the Dems.

They will claim the country would have turned arround quicker without it.

Just like they did FDRs actions.

Their only problem is history is now repeting its self.

The last time the Rs had complete control of the government for more than 2 years we had the great depression.

We have a pattern folks.

 

[Ravi]

What is the pork, btw?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Like I said its a rift in the party.

They will forgive these R govenors and voting for it but they will never forgive the Dems.

They will claim the country would have turned arround quicker without it.

Just like they did FDRs actions.

Their only problem is history is now repeting its self.

The last time the Rs had complete control of the government for more than 2 years we had the great depression.

We have a pattern folks.

It was the Fed that caused the Great Depression.

 

[sealybobo]

Like I said its a rift in the party.

They will forgive these R govenors and voting for it but they will never forgive the Dems.

They will claim the country would have turned arround quicker without it.

Just like they did FDRs actions.

Their only problem is history is now repeting its self.

The last time the Rs had complete control of the government for more than 2 years we had the great depression.

We have a pattern folks.

It was the Fed that caused the Great Depression.

Yes, and the GOP work directly for the Feds. EI, the top 1% wealthiest Americans.

Notice how the GOP easily pushed their radical agenda when they had control of all three branches of government? And those policies are why we are in the dump today.

Sure the rich bankers were able to get one over on Woodrow Wilson & Bill Clinton, but things REALLY work to their benefit when the GOP are in office.

And at least Wilson was sorry for ruining America:

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." -Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Yes, continue to point your finger at the GOP. Meanwhile, Obama still hasn't closed the Fed, sealy.

 

[DiveCon]

Yes, continue to point your finger at the GOP. Meanwhile, Obama still hasn't closed the Fed, sealy.

bobo is a fucking moron

he doesnt understand that the GOP was ACTING like dems