GOP gets it, Dems don't.

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    The GOP scored a big one with the agreement by Mitch McConnell to end earmarks. Remember Pelosi and the Dums ran in 06 on doing this (actually just reining them in, meaning nothing but it sounded good). Initially McConnell opposed ending earmarks. But I guess the reality of what Americans want finally made the case with him. As he said:
    The Dums better start worrying.
    Senate GOP Leader McConnell Has Change of Heart on Earmarks | The Rundown News Blog | PBS NewsHour | PBS
     
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    The ball will be in the Dims court and they'll either have to go along with it or look positively stupid.

    How ironic. They've gone from large majorities in the House and Senate to backing themselves into this corner and others. What a bunch of dopes.
     
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    McConnell? Was he for earmarks before he was against them? Oh, and Rabbi, please explain in detail what is and what is not an earmark.
    For example, what is the difference between soft and hard earmarks, earmarks and pork barrell spending and if, for example, the Congress passes and the president signs a bill (such as No Child Left Behind) and the funding is year to year, many times less than necessary? Is the latter called a challenged earmark?
    Oh, and what of no bid contracts, explain that for us as well as how funds will be distriburted when left without the force of law?

    Earmarks outrage is nothing more than one more canard by the Republicans who still have no real clue how to govern.
     
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    Why don't you explain why Pelosi and the Dums ran on ending earmarks and then utterly failed. In fact, everything they ran on in 06 they failed at. They failed because they never intended to change any of those things. It was all bullshit. Kind of like every post you make.
    So now McConnell understands that he has to end earmarks and is on board with the idea. That's called "growth". Of course whatever he did, you would be carping about something. Because you...don't...get...it.
     
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    Of course I do, get it. Pelosi ran on healthcare and got it. She ran on Wall St. reform and got it. For those who believe (both of you) anything posted by Rabbi, consider:

    Enacted
    Main article: List of United States federal legislation#110th United States Congress
    February 2, 2007 — House Page Board Revision Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-2, 121 Stat. 4
    May 25, 2007 — U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans' Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007, Pub.L. 110-28, 121 Stat. 112, including Title VIII: Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2007, 121 Stat. 188
    June 14, 2007 — Preserving United States Attorney Independence Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-34, 121 Stat. 224
    July 26, 2007 — Foreign Investment and National Security Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-49, 121 Stat. 246
    August 3, 2007 — Implementing Recommendations of the 9/11 Commission Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-53, 121 Stat. 266
    August 5, 2007 — Protect America Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-55, 121 Stat. 552
    September 14, 2007 — Honest Leadership and Open Government Act, Pub.L. 110-81, 121 Stat. 735
    November 8, 2007 — Water Resources Development Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-114, 121 Stat. 1041 - Veto Overridden
    December 19, 2007 — Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-140, 121 Stat. 1492
    February 13, 2008 — Economic Stimulus Act of 2008, Pub.L. 110-185, 122 Stat. 613
    May 21, 2008 — Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act, Pub.L. 110-233, 122 Stat. 881
    May 22, 2008 — Food and Energy Security Act of 2007 (2007 Farm Bill), Pub.L. 110-234, 122 Stat. 923 - Veto Overridden
    June 30, 2008 — Supplemental Appropriations Act of 2008, Pub.L. 110-252, 122 Stat. 2323, including Title V: Post-9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Act of 2008 ("G.I. Bill 2008")
    July 10, 2008 — FISA Amendments Act of 2008, Pub.L. 110-261, 122 Stat. 2436
    July 29, 2008 — Tom Lantos Block Burmese JADE (Junta's Anti-Democratic Efforts) Act of 2008, Pub.L. 110-286, 122 Stat. 2632
    July 30, 2008 — Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008, Pub.L. 110-289, 122 Stat. 2654

    House in Salinas, California under foreclosure, following the bursting of the U.S. real estate bubble.October 3, 2008 — Public Law 110-343 (Pub.L. 110-343), 122 Stat. 3765, including:
    Div. A: Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, H.R. 1424;
    Div. B: Energy Improvement and Extension Act of 2008; and
    Div. C: Tax Extenders and Alternative Minimum Tax Relief Act of 2008
    October 15, 2008 — Pub.L. 110-430: Setting the beginning of the first session of the 111th Congress and the date for counting Electoral College votes, 122 Stat. 4846
    December 19, 2008 — Pub.L. 110-455: A Saxbe fix, reducing the compensation and other emoluments attached to the office of Secretary of State to that which was in effect on January 1, 2007: allowing Hillary Clinton to serve as Secretary of State despite the Emoluments Clause of the United States Constitution.
    More information: Public Laws for the 110th Congress and Complete index of Public and Private Laws for 110th Congress at GPO

    [edit] Proposed, but not enacted
    in (alphabetical order)
    America's Climate Security Act of 2007
    Auto Industry Financing and Restructuring Act
    Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007
    Deceptive Practices and Voter Intimidation Prevention Act
    District of Columbia House Voting Rights Act of 2007
    Employee Free Choice Act
    Employment Non-Discrimination Act
    Executive Branch Reform Act
    Family and Consumer Choice Act of 2007
    Global Warming Pollution Reduction Act of 2007
    Habeas Corpus Restoration Act of 2007
    Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007
    Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2007
    Medicare Prescription Drug Price Negotiation Act of 2007
    Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults Act of 2008
    Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act of 2007
    State Children's Health Insurance Program
    [edit] Vetoed
    Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007 (SCHIP, H.R. 976)
    Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007 (SCHIP, H.R. 3963)
    Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act (H.R. 3043)
    Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2007 (S. 5)
    Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 (S. 1943)
    H.R. 1585: an earlier version of National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008
    H.R. 1591: an earlier version of U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans' Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007
     
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    From Pelosi's web site 3/27/07:

    "This week the House will vote on H. Con. Res. 99, the Democratic budget resolution to restore fiscal responsibility and accountability...Pay-as-you-go budget rules contained in the resolution are critical to establishing fiscal integrity and will begin to reverse the record budget deficits..."

    Yeah, PayGo. What ever happened to that idea from the great Nance? And how many trillions of deficit dollars in their budgets since?

    Have a good laugh Speaker Nancy Pelosi | News Room | Press Releases
     
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    We need to end earmarks but even if we do that, that wont make a dent in this budget.
     
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    Its a fucking red herring.

    I dont care if they do or dont get rid of it.


    It was nothing but a bunch of right wing caviling anyway.
     
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    I applaud the decision to eliminate earmarks, and allow these expenditures to go through the full vetting process.....

    but isn't the republicans doing this now, after they increased earmarks under their rule almost 10folded, a bit late, no?

    don't get me wrong, I am glad they are committing to this now....though note, this legislation IS NOT BINDING but a sense of the Senate, I believe?
     
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    Earmarks are less than a half percent of the budget and many of them actually are valid expenditures.

    What has to end is the anonymous tacking on of unrelated expenditures to existing bills. If you want to fund projects in your district, put them in a comprehensive bill for each type of project and openly vote on them
     
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