GOP Choice: Power or Sick Children Left Behind

[Avatar4321]

False Dilemna or Straw man?

How about both?

 

[Barb]

And one other point Dauntless?

Reagan didn't go aroung the world apologizing for his Nation or it's people. He embraced them 100%...

He didn't "embrace" 100% OF them though, he "embraced" the top 20%.
True story.

 

[The Rabbi]

And one other point Dauntless?

Reagan didn't go aroung the world apologizing for his Nation or it's people. He embraced them 100%...

He didn't "embrace" 100% OF them though, he "embraced" the top 20%.
True story.

Link?

No of course not, you partisan hack ignoramus.

Dems don't care about "the children." It's all about control. That's it.
Here Obamacare has resulted in insurance companies cancelling their "child only" health insurance programs.
Review & Outlook: Kids 0, Insurance 0 - WSJ.com

 

[California Girl]

Where is Dainty?

I mean the real, flamer, classic Dainty of old. Has some tragedy befallen him that makes him a shadow of his former self? Cuz all his posts seem somewhat dull and repetitive these days. How sad.

 

[Stephanie]

the poor Dante and the Progressive have nothing else now, except fearMONGERING.
think about it folks, it's foooooorrrr the poooooor chidern that we NEED to enact a Guberment Run Healthcare TAKEOVER. cause fer sure we all were NEVA able to take care of our OWN before.

Everyone needs to get behind REPEALING this idiotic Health care law the Progressives and the commie Obamie enacted on us.

come on folks, wake the hell the up.

 

[California Girl]

Dante has people at a loss for words.
the poor Dante and the Progressive have nothing else now, except fearMONGERING.
think about it folks, it's foooooorrrr the poooooor chidern that we NEED to enact a Guberment Run Healthcare TAKEOVER. cause fer sure we all were NEVA able to take care of our OWN before.

He's being serious? Damn, I thought this was another one of his 'let's try and wind up the hordes' threads. My bad.

But it does seem that most of his threads are just Dainty talking to himself in some vein attempt to flame the board. I think Dainty has lost his mojo.

 

[Stephanie]

When you hear, it's for the Chillern and the Middle class from the mouths of these elected Democrats-Progressives-Commies, you know it's time to run the other way.

they could give a shit less bout you and me, they Only see power power power OVER US

 

[bigrebnc1775]

GOP Choice: Power or Sick Children Left Behind

Whether you are a conservative, a liberal, a progressive, a populist, a right wing loon, a left wing moonie, a libertine Libertarian, or a much dreaded centrist who is willing to do what the founders and framers did -- compromise, the GOP has given you a choice: Power or Sick Children Left Behind.

GOP 'Pledge to America' Looks Unlikely to Inspire - Newsweek

Way to go GOP. Way to go.

How is this evil? OH Yell that's that right individualism is evil to a statist.
With this document, we pledge to dedicate ourselves to the task of reconnecting our highest
aspirations to the permanent truths of our founding by keeping faith with the values our nation was founded on, the principles we stand for, and the priorities of our people. This is our Pledge to America.

We pledge to honor the Constitution as constructed by its framers and honor the original intent of those precepts that have been consistently ignored – particularly the Tenth Amendment, which grants that all powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

We pledge to advance policies that promote greater liberty, wider opportunity, a robust defense, and national economic prosperity.

We pledge to honor families, traditional marriage, life, and the private and faith-based
organizations that form the core of our American values.

We pledge to make government more transparent in its actions, careful in its stewardship, and honest in its dealings.

We pledge to uphold the purpose and promise of a better America, knowing that to whom
much is given, much is expected and that the blessings of our liberty buoy the hopes of
mankind.

We make this pledge bearing true faith and allegiance to the people we represent, and we invite fellow citizens and patriots to join us in forming a new governing agenda for America.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

GOP Choice: Power or Sick Children Left Behind

Whether you are a conservative, a liberal, a progressive, a populist, a right wing loon, a left wing moonie, a libertine Libertarian, or a much dreaded centrist who is willing to do what the founders and framers did -- compromise, the GOP has given you a choice: Power or Sick Children Left Behind.

GOP 'Pledge to America' Looks Unlikely to Inspire - Newsweek

Way to go GOP. Way to go.

How is this evil? OH Yell that's that right individualism is evil to a statist.
With this document, we pledge to dedicate ourselves to the task of reconnecting our highest
aspirations to the permanent truths of our founding by keeping faith with the values our nation was founded on, the principles we stand for, and the priorities of our people. This is our Pledge to America.

We pledge to honor the Constitution as constructed by its framers and honor the original intent of those precepts that have been consistently ignored – particularly the Tenth Amendment, which grants that all powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

We pledge to advance policies that promote greater liberty, wider opportunity, a robust defense, and national economic prosperity.

We pledge to honor families, traditional marriage, life, and the private and faith-based
organizations that form the core of our American values.

We pledge to make government more transparent in its actions, careful in its stewardship, and honest in its dealings.

We pledge to uphold the purpose and promise of a better America, knowing that to whom
much is given, much is expected and that the blessings of our liberty buoy the hopes of
mankind.

We make this pledge bearing true faith and allegiance to the people we represent, and we invite fellow citizens and patriots to join us in forming a new governing agenda for America.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Obama is in his second year. He isn't doing bad compared to where other Presidents were in their second years. Reagan was written off.

But Reagan's policies actually worked and grew the economy the fastest in years, allowing him to win a 49 state landslide in his reelection. I guarantee you that ain't gonna happen with the Big O. Keynesian economics have never worked and never will.

The GOP is in trouble with health care arguments.

The GOP is winning because of its health care arguments. People don't want Obama's health care government take over plan. Scott Brown won in Massachusetts because of the GOP's health care arguments.

 

[rdean]

Looks like the left wants to play the politics of fear card. I think I'll just ignore threads like this until after the election and focus on the positive things candidates bring to the table.

I'm looking for candidates with real world business experience, a record of careful spending on their campaigns and private lives, those with weak ties to their parties and mostly plan oriented/positive ads.

Yea, like Carly Fiorina who cut tens of thousands of jobs and sent them to China because it made "business better".

I remember reading in an engineering magazine an engineer asked his CEO, "Aren't you worried about so many American jobs going to China" and the CEO said, "That's NOT my responsibility".

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Yea, like Carly Fiorina who cut tens of thousands of jobs and sent them to China because it made "business better".

I remember reading in an engineering magazine an engineer asked his CEO, "Aren't you worried about so many American jobs going to China" and the CEO said, "That's NOT my responsibility".

Technically, she was correct. It's not the responsibility of a CEO to give someone a job. Their primary responsibility is to maximize the wealth of the share holders. If people don't get a good return on their investment, they don't invest, and the company goes out of business or gets taken over, and lot more Americans are out of a job.

As a Senator, if she wants to pass laws discouraging offshore employment then that's the correct forum to do so, but the bottom line is, jobs get outsourced because Americans have a demand for cheap goods and countries like China, India, Mexico, and now Vietnam, and Laos are supplying it. It's always going to be this way. As the incomes of a nation advances, the citizenry requires more pay and more benefits to do these kinds of jobs to where lesser developing nations start looking more attractive. China is already beginning to experience losing these jobs to Vietnam and Laos because the Chinese income is growing and placing more demand on better wages and benefits, making China now less attractive than some of its Asian neighbors.

This is basic economics, Deaniac. It's how the real world works and always will whether you like or not. That you can't understand this illustrates your lack of education.

 

[editec]

The biggest question is how Republicans will attempt to square the circle of calling for $4 trillion to be removed from the federal treasury in the next decade by making the Bush tax cuts permanent, adding a tax cut for small businesses on top of that, and simultaneously reducing the budget deficit while increasing funding for national missile defense. They will need to get a lot more specific—and drastic—in their budget cutting than the pledge's cap on discretionary spending. They say that will save "$100 billion in the first year alone," but that's not nearly enough to compensate for their other budget-busting plans. Conveniently, the pledge calculates how much spending cuts will save the government and how much tax cuts will save the taxpayer, but not how much their tax cuts or spending proposals will cost the government. As George W. Bush might say, that's "fuzzy Washington math."

That's because the GOP is still tyring to convince people that tax cuts to billionaires always end in increasing revenues.

The tax cut and borrow GOP has been pretty consistently lying to the American public about the laffer curve for the last 40 years.

And despite the fact that the evidence of their nonsensical math is all there for our perusal, and despite the fact that every time the GOP takes power the national debts increase to pay for their increases in military spending and uncessary misadventures in Asia, a whole LOT of Americans still believe that the GOP is the fiscally conservative party.

Both parties tend to razzle-ddazzle their partisan base with happy rhetoric, and then do whatever the hell they want.

The GOP just happens to be somewhat ahead of the Dems when it comes to being able to lie with a straight face and get away with it.

 

[The Rabbi]

The biggest question is how Republicans will attempt to square the circle of calling for $4 trillion to be removed from the federal treasury in the next decade by making the Bush tax cuts permanent, adding a tax cut for small businesses on top of that, and simultaneously reducing the budget deficit while increasing funding for national missile defense. They will need to get a lot more specific—and drastic—in their budget cutting than the pledge's cap on discretionary spending. They say that will save "$100 billion in the first year alone," but that's not nearly enough to compensate for their other budget-busting plans. Conveniently, the pledge calculates how much spending cuts will save the government and how much tax cuts will save the taxpayer, but not how much their tax cuts or spending proposals will cost the government. As George W. Bush might say, that's "fuzzy Washington math."

That's because the GOP is still tyring to convince people that tax cuts to billionaires always end in increasing revenues.

The tax cut and borrow GOP has been pretty consistently lying to the American public about the laffer curve for the last 40 years.

And despite the fact that the evidence of their nonsensical math is all there for our perusal, and despite the fact that every time the GOP takes power the national debts increase to pay for their increases in military spending and uncessary misadventures in Asia, a whole LOT of Americans still believe that the GOP is the fiscally conservative party.

Both parties tend to razzle-ddazzle their partisan base with happy rhetoric, and then do whatever the hell they want.

The GOP just happens to be somewhat ahead of the Dems when it comes to being able to lie with a straight face and get away with it.

The Laffer Curve isn't 40 years old (the idea might be but not by Laffer).
The rest of your post is so much bullshit that has been debunked already, mixed in with partisan hackery that it does not bear response.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

That's because the GOP is still tyring to convince people that tax cuts to billionaires always end in increasing revenues.

They do end up increasing Federal revenue. The data is out there. It's been shown time and time again.

The tax cut and borrow GOP has been pretty consistently lying to the American public about the laffer curve for the last 40 years.

Tax cut and borrow is precisely the problem. If you're going to cut taxes then you need at the very least to freeze spending and not increase it for a year or two. Bush and Reagan increased spending substantially after they cut taxes which lead to the big deficits we had.

a whole LOT of Americans still believe that the GOP is the fiscally conservative party.

People simply don't pay attention.

 

[The Rabbi]

The GOP is certainly MORe fiscally conservative than the Dums. Of course that isn't saying much since we don't have a DrunkenSailors Party.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

GOP Choice: Power or Sick Children Left Behind

Whether you are a conservative, a liberal, a progressive, a populist, a right wing loon, a left wing moonie, a libertine Libertarian, or a much dreaded centrist who is willing to do what the founders and framers did -- compromise, the GOP has given you a choice: Power or Sick Children Left Behind.

GOP 'Pledge to America' Looks Unlikely to Inspire - Newsweek

Way to go GOP. Way to go.

GOP Choice: Power or... 09-25-2010 06:28 PM The Rabbi Hack

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The GOP is certainly MORe fiscally conservative than the Dums. Of course that isn't saying much since we don't have a DrunkenSailors Party.

The GOP is more fiscally conservative than the Democrats?

not on the national level and not in your like time.

 

[The Rabbi]

The GOP is certainly MORe fiscally conservative than the Dums. Of course that isn't saying much since we don't have a DrunkenSailors Party.

The GOP is more fiscally conservative than the Democrats?

not on the national level and not in your like time.

Excuse me, which party pushed through a trillion dollar "stimulus" that has resulted in nothing but waste and fraud? Which party criticized Pres Bush's drug benefit for not being generous enough?
Your hackery is showing again.

 

[The T]

The GOP is certainly MORe fiscally conservative than the Dums. Of course that isn't saying much since we don't have a DrunkenSailors Party.

True. And there are a few of the party elitist Blue-Blood Repubes that have already had their asses handed to them. Their response is to act like Democrats...which for all intents and purposes has unmsked them, and shown the people to have exposed them for what they are.