GOP Broden: Violent Revolution Is "On the Table"

[LordBrownTrout]

I know a guy from work who loathes the military but would love to see in squash its own citizens. Certifiable nut case.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

The framers built into our Constitution the tools needed to execute a bloodless revolution. As a republic, we can convene to end the government we have and raise up a new one in its place.

Of course. That isn't what the other idiots are talking about though. They are talking about VIOLENT revolution. They are openly advocating for the violent overthrow of the Constitutional government. They are advocating committing treason.

I want them to try. Honestly, I do. It's time to rid our nation of this insanity and if they actually have the balls to do what they advocate 9which they don't of course) I will participate and revel in their deaths.

Oh, look at the chickenhawk.

He can't say anything good about the US military anywhere else in the world, but wants it to fire on American citizens.

Yea i've noticed that is a common theme with Socialist/Progressive stooges. They have no problem at all with declaring War on their fellow Americans. They really would love to see our Military start massacring their own fellow Citizens. People should never trust Socialists. Socialists/Communists always turn on their own people in the end. This is true of every Socialist/Communist Nation on this Planet. So why would our Socialists here be any different? People really should start thinking about this more before voting.

 

[Sallow]

I did not say it was in the Constitution.

It's in the Declaration of Independence.

Specifically..the Declaration of Independence was referring to the British.

The Constitution is supreme in matters of law.

Again the Constitution is only a defense for a government that complies with it.

The British were the government at that time.

Know what "consent of the governed" means?

Again..the Declaration of Independence referred specifically to grievances with the British Government. It is not a template for violent revolution nor should it be construed as such. The United States Constitution is very clear about insurrection and rebellion. There is no wiggle room.

 

[code1211]

Washington was always at odds with Jefferson and Madison.

And Madison sorta completely had a different worldview from Jefferson. But to listen to the righties, there's one overriding "will of the founders" that we can look to in religious fashion and answer all the questions that need to be answered in the modern world. It's a load of bunk and the founders, Jefferson in particular, warned us about doing this.

I would love to see some rightie try to square these words from Jefferson, carved in his memorial no less, with their so-called "strict constructionist" worldview...

I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and Constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.

The first line says it all.

The Constitution is an instrument that limits the scope, reach and power of the Federal Government. Witness what those qualities can do in the hands of the power seekers and you can appreciate the wisdom of the Founders.

When the only people in government are those who are posessed of justice and wisdom, then legal limits to their authority over the rest of us will not be needed. This is not the case, however.

Those who win office are creatures of political parties and they thrive in the arena of power, not justice. They advance on actions based in guile, not wisdom.

Being a strict constructionist is sneered at by those who seek to justify the means by the stylish ends of today. I would sooner trust my lot to the framers and to their wisdom than to today's politicians and their guile. The framers tried to create a home for justice for the coming generations while the poiticians seek to snatch power today from the desparate and wealth today from their children.

You might be interested to know that Jefferson did not choose the inscriptions to be carved onto his Memorial. These were chosen for him by people during the FDR administration.

I wonder why an Administration having programs declared unconstitutional on a daily basis might have chosen that particular quote.

It's a freakin' conundrum.

 

[Revere]

The framers built into our Constitution the tools needed to execute a bloodless revolution. As a republic, we can convene to end the government we have and raise up a new one in its place.

Of course. That isn't what the other idiots are talking about though. They are talking about VIOLENT revolution. They are openly advocating for the violent overthrow of the Constitutional government. They are advocating committing treason.

I want them to try. Honestly, I do. It's time to rid our nation of this insanity and if they actually have the balls to do what they advocate 9which they don't of course) I will participate and revel in their deaths.

Oh, look at the chickenhawk.

He can't say anything good about the US military anywhere else in the world, but wants it to fire on American citizens.

Yea i've noticed that is a common theme with Socialist/Progressive stooges. They have no problem at all with declaring War on their fellow Americans. They really would love to see our Military start massacring their own fellow Citizens. People should never trust Socialists. Socialists/Communists always turn on their own people in the end. This is true of every Socialist/Communist Nation on this Planet. Why would our Socialists here be any different? People really should start thinking about this more before voting.

There isn't any totalitarian you could compare them to that would be over the top. Stalin. Pol Pot. Ceaucescu. Castro.

They are telling you who they are.

 

[Sallow]

The framers built into our Constitution the tools needed to execute a bloodless revolution. As a republic, we can convene to end the government we have and raise up a new one in its place.

Of course. That isn't what the other idiots are talking about though. They are talking about VIOLENT revolution. They are openly advocating for the violent overthrow of the Constitutional government. They are advocating committing treason.

I want them to try. Honestly, I do. It's time to rid our nation of this insanity and if they actually have the balls to do what they advocate 9which they don't of course) I will participate and revel in their deaths.

Oh, look at the chickenhawk.

He can't say anything good about the US military anywhere else in the world, but wants it to fire on American citizens.

Yea i've noticed that is a common theme with Socialist/Progressive stooges. They have no problem at all with declaring War on their fellow Americans. They really would love to see our Military start massacring their own fellow Citizens. People should never trust Socialists. Socialists/Communists always turn on their own people in the end. This is true of every Socialist/Communist Nation on this Planet. So why would our Socialists here be any different? People really should start thinking about this more before voting.

Seriously. Who is starting this stuff? These guys are firing the opening salvoes..against whom?

Fellow Americans.

And the Constitution prescribes exactly how to handle that.

 

[Revere]

Washington was always at odds with Jefferson and Madison.

And Madison sorta completely had a different worldview from Jefferson. But to listen to the righties, there's one overriding "will of the founders" that we can look to in religious fashion and answer all the questions that need to be answered in the modern world. It's a load of bunk and the founders, Jefferson in particular, warned us about doing this.

I would love to see some rightie try to square these words from Jefferson, carved in his memorial no less, with their so-called "strict constructionist" worldview...

I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and Constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.

The first line says it all.

The Constitution is an instrument that limits the scope, reach and power of the Federal Government. Witness what those qualities can do in the hands of the power seekers and you can appreciate the wisdom of the Founders.

When the only people in government are those who are posessed of justice and wisdom, then legal limits to their authority over the rest of us will not be needed. This is not the case, however.

Those who win office are creatures of political parties and they thrive in the arena of power, not justice. They advance on actions based in guile, not wisdom.

Being a strict constructionist is sneered at by those who seek to justify the means by the stylish ends of today. I would sooner trust my lot to the framers and to their wisdom than to today's politicians and their guile. The framers tried to create a home for justice for the coming generations while the poiticians seek to snatch power today from the desparate and wealth today from their children.

You might be interested to know that Jefferson did not choose the inscriptions to be carved onto his Memorial. These were chosen for him by people during the FDR administration.

I wonder why an Administration having programs declared unconstitutional on a daily basis might have chosen that particular quote.

It's a freakin' conundrum.

I can't believe he got a teaching certificate in history spouting that garbage.

They all think history begins with them.

 

[Revere]

Oh, look at the chickenhawk.

He can't say anything good about the US military anywhere else in the world, but wants it to fire on American citizens.

Yea i've noticed that is a common theme with Socialist/Progressive stooges. They have no problem at all with declaring War on their fellow Americans. They really would love to see our Military start massacring their own fellow Citizens. People should never trust Socialists. Socialists/Communists always turn on their own people in the end. This is true of every Socialist/Communist Nation on this Planet. So why would our Socialists here be any different? People really should start thinking about this more before voting.

Seriously. Who is starting this stuff? These guys are firing the opening salvoes..against whom?

Fellow Americans.

And the Constitution prescribes exactly how to handle that.

The Constitution directs the US military to fire on its citizens?

Like I said,a government that doesn't obey the Constitution can't hide behind it.

 

[Sallow]

Yea i've noticed that is a common theme with Socialist/Progressive stooges. They have no problem at all with declaring War on their fellow Americans. They really would love to see our Military start massacring their own fellow Citizens. People should never trust Socialists. Socialists/Communists always turn on their own people in the end. This is true of every Socialist/Communist Nation on this Planet. So why would our Socialists here be any different? People really should start thinking about this more before voting.

Seriously. Who is starting this stuff? These guys are firing the opening salvoes..against whom?

Fellow Americans.

And the Constitution prescribes exactly how to handle that.

The Constitution directs the US military to fire on its citizens?

Like I said,a government that doesn't obey the Constitution can't hide behind it.

Yeah..it does.

Section 8 - Powers of Congress

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

 

[Revere]

Only works for a Constitutional government. The government of Mexico could not call itself the US government and impose that.

 

[Sallow]

Only works for a Constitutional government. The government of Mexico could not call itself the US government and impose that.

No it couldn't. It's in Mexico..and a product of the Mexicans.

This is a ridiculous argument.

 

[Revere]

Mexicans don't vote in the US?

 

[Sallow]

There comes a point when trying to have a reasonable discussion..or express ideas..comes to an end. Basically..that's when it's lost it's seriousness.

I think this is the point.

Cheers.

 

[LiberalNut]

The first line says it all.

No it doesn't. That's why there are more lines. If Jefferson meant to stop thinking where you did, he would have stopped writing.

I would sooner trust my lot to the framers

Which one? Is it that you don't realize that the framers had completely different views on how America should develop or is it that you don't care?

 

[LiberalNut]

Oh look, now the folks who were threatening to take up guns just a couple of posts ago are now trying to play the victim. What idiocy. Me, the VFW, is the chickenhawk and they, who have never served and who would shit their pants in combat, are the "real Americans".

I'm laughing at you. Y'all don't have the firepower, the skills or the balls to back up your words.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

I guess you wont be voting for your Hopey Changey One next time around then because most of his good buddies are staunch advocates of Violent Revolution. William Ayers is just one but there are many others. In fact many of them are currently serving in his Administration. So are you Hopey Changeys still so sure you're against that Violent Revolution stuff? I think you're just bitching about this guy because he's a Republican discussing this. Don't bother denying it either because I know you guys better than you know yourselves. You really should get to know your Hopey Changey One a bit better. You might just be shocked at what you find.

 

[Revere]

Jefferson's thinking DID stop short of empowering an all-encompassing Federal government.

 

[Revere]

Oh look, now the folks who were threatening to take up guns just a couple of posts ago are now trying to play the victim. What idiocy. Me, the VFW, is the chickenhawk and they, who have never served and who would shit their pants in combat, are the "real Americans".

I'm laughing at you. Y'all don't have the firepower, the skills or the balls to back up your words.

Enlisted men and women are not on your side. That's why you suppress their vote.

 

[gautama]

he is still a republican candidate for Congress.

Red meat, well done.

REALITY ...... In America, negroes need FOUR strikes against them as compared to the rest of us who get three.

The super rich: 5 or 6.

The super black rich......6 or 7.

 

[JimH52]

Beck, who had Broden on his show numerous times, is distancing himself.

GOP Candidate Stephen Broden: Violent Revolution Is 'On The Table'

A Tea Party-backed congressional candidate in Texas is doing Sharron Angle's suggestive talk of "Second Amendment remedies" one better: he says violent overthrow of the government is "on the table."

"Our nation was founded on violence," Stephen Broden, a pastor running against Democratic Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson in Texas's 30th Congressional District, said in a recent interview with Dallas's WFAA-TV. "The option is on the table. I don't think that we should ever remove anything from the table as it relates to our liberties and our freedoms."
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This is a FOX norm. Insinuate the sensational. Make statements on the edge of violence. Pander to the malitias that are out there plotting the overthrow of America. All this from a station owner that became a citizen for convenience sake. FOX is NOT a news station. It has unabashedly become a GOP marketing arm.

Unfortunately, MSNBC seems to be pushing to the left. Unbiased news it becoming harder and harder to find.