Wry Catcher
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When did bigotry become a traditional value for Republicans?
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I dont know about far lefties, but the above makes no sense whatsoever.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
Windbag being pretentious is actually very very funny.
At this point, what Ive said is that my baseline is a strong civil union that provides them the protections and the legal rights that married couples have, and I think thats the right thing to do. But I recognize that from their perspective, it is not enough. He adds that he will continue to wrestle with it going forward. ~ President Barack Obama
I'll take an agnostic on the issue over someone dead set against it come hell or high water...
At this point, what Ive said is that my baseline is a strong civil union that provides them the protections and the legal rights that married couples have, and I think thats the right thing to do. But I recognize that from their perspective, it is not enough. He adds that he will continue to wrestle with it going forward. ~ President Barack Obama
I'll take an agnostic on the issue over someone dead set against it come hell or high water...
What makes you think that is agnostic? He is attempting to find a way not to offend gays without loosing all the blacks that voted for him. He is opportunistic.
Quod erat demonstrandum.
Windbag being pretentious is actually very very funny.
Thank you. I didn't think anyone would notice.
At this point, what Ive said is that my baseline is a strong civil union that provides them the protections and the legal rights that married couples have, and I think thats the right thing to do. But I recognize that from their perspective, it is not enough. He adds that he will continue to wrestle with it going forward. ~ President Barack Obama
I'll take an agnostic on the issue over someone dead set against it come hell or high water...
What makes you think that is agnostic? He is attempting to find a way not to offend gays without loosing all the blacks that voted for him. He is opportunistic.
So? He's still more likely to vote for marriage equality than the GnOP candidates.
What makes you think that is agnostic? He is attempting to find a way not to offend gays without loosing all the blacks that voted for him. He is opportunistic.
So? He's still more likely to vote for marriage equality than the GnOP candidates.
And?
When did bigotry become a traditional value for Republicans?
Rips Obama for refusing to deny benefits to gays.
Discuss.
Rips Obama for refusing to deny benefits to gays.
Discuss.
At this point, what Ive said is that my baseline is a strong civil union that provides them the protections and the legal rights that married couples have, and I think thats the right thing to do. But I recognize that from their perspective, it is not enough. He adds that he will continue to wrestle with it going forward. ~ President Barack Obama
I'll take an agnostic on the issue over someone dead set against it come hell or high water...
What makes you think that is agnostic? He is attempting to find a way not to offend gays without loosing all the blacks that voted for him. He is opportunistic.
So? He's still more likely to vote for marriage equality than the GnOP candidates.
When did bigotry become a traditional value for Republicans?
Obama and Biden are Republicans?
Who knew?
"I believe that American society can choose to carve out a special place for the union of a man and a woman as the unit of child rearing most common to every culture.
I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights no such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simlpy because the people they love are of the same sex"
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Q: Lets try to avoid nuance. Do you support gay marriage?
BIDEN: No. Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage. We do not support that. That is basically the decision to be left to faiths and people who practice their faiths the determination what you call it.
PALIN: My answer is the same as his and it is that I do not.
It doesn't matter what the Gop does or does not support, marriage is not up to the Federal Government to dictate. It is a states issue. Marriage is not covered under the United States Constitution in any shape or form, and anything not in the constitution is left up to the states to dictate. If you do not like the marriage laws in your state feel free to move to another state or to elect a representative that will vote in the fashion that you believe they should.
Straight from the 10th amendment.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."
The Supreme Court of the United States disagrees with you.
Loving V Virginia
Zablocki v Redhail
Turner v Safley
When did bigotry become a traditional value for Republicans?
Obama and Biden are Republicans?
Who knew?"I believe that American society can choose to carve out a special place for the union of a man and a woman as the unit of child rearing most common to every culture.
I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights no such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simlpy because the people they love are of the same sex".
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..
.
Q: Let’s try to avoid nuance. Do you support gay marriage?
BIDEN: No. Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage. We do not support that. That is basically the decision to be left to faiths and people who practice their faiths the determination what you call it.
PALIN: My answer is the same as his and it is that I do not.
So? I disagree with the statements; I understand why Obama & Biden need to respond as they did, but neither you nor I know what they really think. DOMA is mean spirited, bigoted and a disgrace to our heritage.
What part of this sentence do you not understand? We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Obama and Biden are Republicans?
Who knew?"I believe that American society can choose to carve out a special place for the union of a man and a woman as the unit of child rearing most common to every culture.
I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights no such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simlpy because the people they love are of the same sex".
..
..
.
Q: Let’s try to avoid nuance. Do you support gay marriage?
BIDEN: No. Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage. We do not support that. That is basically the decision to be left to faiths and people who practice their faiths the determination what you call it.
PALIN: My answer is the same as his and it is that I do not.
So? I disagree with the statements; I understand why Obama & Biden need to respond as they did, but neither you nor I know what they really think. DOMA is mean spirited, bigoted and a disgrace to our heritage.
What part of this sentence do you not understand? We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
So, why are you only going after Republicans, when the leader of your own party, the President of the United States, agrees that marriage should be between a man and a woman.
What's not equal?
A homosexual man cannot marry another man.
A heterosexual man cannot marry another man.
The law is the same for all, no one may marry the same gender, regardless of their sexual orientation.
It doesn't matter what the Gop does or does not support, marriage is not up to the Federal Government to dictate. It is a states issue. Marriage is not covered under the United States Constitution in any shape or form, and anything not in the constitution is left up to the states to dictate. If you do not like the marriage laws in your state feel free to move to another state or to elect a representative that will vote in the fashion that you believe they should.
Straight from the 10th amendment.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."
The Supreme Court of the United States disagrees with you.
Loving V Virginia
Zablocki v Redhail
Turner v Safley
Supreme court has ruled to expand it's power in this way many times... BUT the constitution is DAMN FUCKING CLEAR ON THIS
When did bigotry become a traditional value for Republicans?
Obama and Biden are Republicans?
Who knew?
"I believe that American society can choose to carve out a special place for the union of a man and a woman as the unit of child rearing most common to every culture.
I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights no such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simlpy because the people they love are of the same sex".
..
..
.
Q: Let’s try to avoid nuance. Do you support gay marriage?
BIDEN: No. Barack Obama nor I support redefining from a civil side what constitutes marriage. We do not support that. That is basically the decision to be left to faiths and people who practice their faiths the determination what you call it.
PALIN: My answer is the same as his and it is that I do not.
So? I disagree with the statements; I understand why Obama & Biden need to respond as they did, but neither you nor I know what they really think. DOMA is mean spirited, bigoted and a disgrace to our heritage.
What part of this sentence do you not understand? We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Supreme court has ruled to expand it's power in this way many times... BUT the constitution is DAMN FUCKING CLEAR ON THIS.
I have never understood why Government is in the Marriage business to begin with. Government should deal solely in Civil Unions. Let the Marriage of 1 man and 1 Woman remain where it belongs. The Church.
In a unanimous decision, the Court held that distinctions drawn according to race were generally "odious to a free people" and were subject to "the most rigid scrutiny" under the Equal Protection Clause. The Virginia law, the Court found, had no legitimate purpose "independent of invidious racial discrimination." The Court rejected the state's argument that the statute was legitimate because it applied equally to both blacks and whites and found that racial classifications were not subject to a "rational purpose" test under the Fourteenth Amendment. The Court also held that the Virginia law violated the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. "Under our Constitution," wrote Chief Justice Earl Warren, "the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual, and cannot be infringed by the State."
Loving v. Virginia | The Oyez Project at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law