GOP AGENDA: Offsetting tax cuts for millionaires with cuts to education

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My guess would be none will think it would help.

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union s in the public service is not free market.

Yes they are. :cuckoo:

We dont need to go over public and private do we?

There is nothing magical about working in the public sector. You wing nuts have such an irrational hatred of government, you automatically assume that anything related to government is instantly and magically evil.
Exaggerate and strawman much?

Just because people rightly recognize that aggression (gubmint's only tool in the box) is inherently inefficient, wasteful and entirely unnecessary, doesn't mean that they see gubmint as "instantly and magically evil."

You may want to dial back your leftloon hyperbole machine a click or three.
 
Its not the money ... it's the teachers... they suck ... (it's not all of them but it actually is a majority of them) ... end of thread.
 
"The Democrat-controlled Colorado senate, by a 30-5 margin, approved budget cuts of $250 million from K-12 education, which will result in massive teacher layoffs, larger class sizes, and a shortened school year. The budget also guts higher education and Medicaid, while canceling a $3 million nutrition program for poor children. Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper initially called for $375 million in cuts to K-12 education, but agreed to reduced education cuts in exchange for bigger tax cuts for the rich and corporations. Keep in mind, Colorado’s six billionaires with a combined wealth of $20.3 billion, more than 20 times Colorado’s entire $988 million deficit, have no need for a tax break.


Washington State, with a Democrat governor and Democrat-controlled senate and house, approved a budget that slashes $2 billion from public education, cuts pay for state workers and teachers by 3%, and strips funding from “underperforming” schools. Their budget saves an additional $1.2 billion by refusing to fund a voter-approved program to increase teacher pay and decrease class sizes. Washington is also planning to cut $530 million from higher education, which would cause tuition to increase by 16% at universities and 12% at community colleges. The budget also imposes furloughs and cuts funding for Medicaid. Washington’s six billionaires have a combined net worth of nearly $100 billion, which is 25 times the state’s budget deficit.


Or consider these examples:
California has a Democrat governor and Democrat-controlled state house and senate. Yet they are proposing to close their $25 billion budget gap by slashing $1.4 billion from higher education and $4 billion from k-12 education, according to the CTA. Additionally, Reuters and CNN report that the proposed budget would cut wages by 10% for many unionized state employees, while slashing Medi-Cal by $1.7 billion, Welfare-to-Work by $1.5 billion, and $705 million from the agency serving people with developmental disabilities. Yet, if just the richest 19 residents paid 10% more in taxes, the state’s $25 billion deficit would be completely erased. California has 80 billionaires, or 20% of Forbes’ richest Americans.


In New York, Democratic Governor Cuomo has proposed a budget plan calling for nearly 9,800 layoffs. The plan also calls for massive cuts to K-12 education (7.3%) and health care, in addition to 10% cuts to colleges and universities, reported NBC news. Additionally, CNN said that state agencies will have their budgets slashed by 20%. New York City, alone, has 58 billionaires who, together have so much wealth they could erase the State’s budget deficit without even noticing a change in their bank accounts.


In Maryland, Democratic Governor Martin O'Malley, who ran a pro-education and pro-labor campaign, and the Democrat-controlled state legislature, are now considering cuts to education and the state work force, according to the Baltimore Sun. Under the plan, current employees would have to increase their pension contributions by 25%, (7% of their pay), or they could opt to continue contributing about 5.6% of their pay, but would risk decreased benefits. WaPo reports that new employees would have no choice and their early retirement age would be raised from 55 to 60. Daily Censored says that $94 million will be cut from k-12 education, with $15 of it coming entirely from Baltimore City Schools.


Connecticut’s Democratic Governor, Dan Malloy, has pitted unions against the cities, basing his budget almost entirely on union concessions worth $1 billion over the next two years, according to CBS news. If the unions refuse to accept the cuts, he has threatened to slash state funding for cities. Hearst Connecticut Newspapers says that the losses to cities could be as much as $67 million for Bridgeport, $10.4 million from Danbury, $4.9 million Stamford, $1.8 million from Greenwich, and $5 million from Norwalk."

Funny thing, Deanie..."evil" Democrats seem to be doing the same thing as "evil" Republicans. Gee, wonder why the author of your article didn't report on those cuts as well?

So Republicans are doing it because a few Democrats did? Is that how it works?

So where's the link. I want to go read it myself.
 
"The Democrat-controlled Colorado senate, by a 30-5 margin, approved budget cuts of $250 million from K-12 education, which will result in massive teacher layoffs, larger class sizes, and a shortened school year. The budget also guts higher education and Medicaid, while canceling a $3 million nutrition program for poor children. Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper initially called for $375 million in cuts to K-12 education, but agreed to reduced education cuts in exchange for bigger tax cuts for the rich and corporations. Keep in mind, Colorado’s six billionaires with a combined wealth of $20.3 billion, more than 20 times Colorado’s entire $988 million deficit, have no need for a tax break.


Washington State, with a Democrat governor and Democrat-controlled senate and house, approved a budget that slashes $2 billion from public education, cuts pay for state workers and teachers by 3%, and strips funding from “underperforming” schools. Their budget saves an additional $1.2 billion by refusing to fund a voter-approved program to increase teacher pay and decrease class sizes. Washington is also planning to cut $530 million from higher education, which would cause tuition to increase by 16% at universities and 12% at community colleges. The budget also imposes furloughs and cuts funding for Medicaid. Washington’s six billionaires have a combined net worth of nearly $100 billion, which is 25 times the state’s budget deficit.


Or consider these examples:
California has a Democrat governor and Democrat-controlled state house and senate. Yet they are proposing to close their $25 billion budget gap by slashing $1.4 billion from higher education and $4 billion from k-12 education, according to the CTA. Additionally, Reuters and CNN report that the proposed budget would cut wages by 10% for many unionized state employees, while slashing Medi-Cal by $1.7 billion, Welfare-to-Work by $1.5 billion, and $705 million from the agency serving people with developmental disabilities. Yet, if just the richest 19 residents paid 10% more in taxes, the state’s $25 billion deficit would be completely erased. California has 80 billionaires, or 20% of Forbes’ richest Americans.


In New York, Democratic Governor Cuomo has proposed a budget plan calling for nearly 9,800 layoffs. The plan also calls for massive cuts to K-12 education (7.3%) and health care, in addition to 10% cuts to colleges and universities, reported NBC news. Additionally, CNN said that state agencies will have their budgets slashed by 20%. New York City, alone, has 58 billionaires who, together have so much wealth they could erase the State’s budget deficit without even noticing a change in their bank accounts.


In Maryland, Democratic Governor Martin O'Malley, who ran a pro-education and pro-labor campaign, and the Democrat-controlled state legislature, are now considering cuts to education and the state work force, according to the Baltimore Sun. Under the plan, current employees would have to increase their pension contributions by 25%, (7% of their pay), or they could opt to continue contributing about 5.6% of their pay, but would risk decreased benefits. WaPo reports that new employees would have no choice and their early retirement age would be raised from 55 to 60. Daily Censored says that $94 million will be cut from k-12 education, with $15 of it coming entirely from Baltimore City Schools.


Connecticut’s Democratic Governor, Dan Malloy, has pitted unions against the cities, basing his budget almost entirely on union concessions worth $1 billion over the next two years, according to CBS news. If the unions refuse to accept the cuts, he has threatened to slash state funding for cities. Hearst Connecticut Newspapers says that the losses to cities could be as much as $67 million for Bridgeport, $10.4 million from Danbury, $4.9 million Stamford, $1.8 million from Greenwich, and $5 million from Norwalk."

Funny thing, Deanie..."evil" Democrats seem to be doing the same thing as "evil" Republicans. Gee, wonder why the author of your article didn't report on those cuts as well?

Well Golly Gee.

Look at that would ya.

You can bet Deany won't be responding to your post there OS. LOL

Did you see the link? I want to read it myself.
 
Have you seen "Waiting for Superman"? It shows how teacher's unions are totally fucking up the education system. We need to get that mess cleaned-up first.

Yea, get rid of the teachers and replace them with millionaires. That will work for sure.

no no no..teachers are all SAINTS. we should pour more taxpayer monies into them..


SNIP:
School Linked to Abuse Claims Will Replace Entire FacultyBy IAN LOVETT
Published: February 6, 2012

. LOS ANGELES — The entire faculty at Miramonte Elementary School, where two teachers were arrested last week on accusations of child sexual abuse, will be replaced by new teachers this week, the Los Angeles Unified School District superintendent announced Monday night.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/e...after-teachers-sex-abuse-arrests.html?_r=2&hp

They are going to have to invent new laws to convict these teachers.
 
Education has shown any worth while results in many years. They can flush the money instead and get the same result.
 
Education has shown any worth while results in many years. They can flush the money instead and get the same result.

Right. That's why right wingers want to end education. Right wing policies on the economy, science, foreign affairs and so on have worked so well over the years. I'm sure they are equally right about education.
 
"The Democrat-controlled Colorado senate, by a 30-5 margin, approved budget cuts of $250 million from K-12 education, which will result in massive teacher layoffs, larger class sizes, and a shortened school year. The budget also guts higher education and Medicaid, while canceling a $3 million nutrition program for poor children. Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper initially called for $375 million in cuts to K-12 education, but agreed to reduced education cuts in exchange for bigger tax cuts for the rich and corporations. Keep in mind, Colorado’s six billionaires with a combined wealth of $20.3 billion, more than 20 times Colorado’s entire $988 million deficit, have no need for a tax break.


Washington State, with a Democrat governor and Democrat-controlled senate and house, approved a budget that slashes $2 billion from public education, cuts pay for state workers and teachers by 3%, and strips funding from “underperforming” schools. Their budget saves an additional $1.2 billion by refusing to fund a voter-approved program to increase teacher pay and decrease class sizes. Washington is also planning to cut $530 million from higher education, which would cause tuition to increase by 16% at universities and 12% at community colleges. The budget also imposes furloughs and cuts funding for Medicaid. Washington’s six billionaires have a combined net worth of nearly $100 billion, which is 25 times the state’s budget deficit.


Or consider these examples:
California has a Democrat governor and Democrat-controlled state house and senate. Yet they are proposing to close their $25 billion budget gap by slashing $1.4 billion from higher education and $4 billion from k-12 education, according to the CTA. Additionally, Reuters and CNN report that the proposed budget would cut wages by 10% for many unionized state employees, while slashing Medi-Cal by $1.7 billion, Welfare-to-Work by $1.5 billion, and $705 million from the agency serving people with developmental disabilities. Yet, if just the richest 19 residents paid 10% more in taxes, the state’s $25 billion deficit would be completely erased. California has 80 billionaires, or 20% of Forbes’ richest Americans.


In New York, Democratic Governor Cuomo has proposed a budget plan calling for nearly 9,800 layoffs. The plan also calls for massive cuts to K-12 education (7.3%) and health care, in addition to 10% cuts to colleges and universities, reported NBC news. Additionally, CNN said that state agencies will have their budgets slashed by 20%. New York City, alone, has 58 billionaires who, together have so much wealth they could erase the State’s budget deficit without even noticing a change in their bank accounts.


In Maryland, Democratic Governor Martin O'Malley, who ran a pro-education and pro-labor campaign, and the Democrat-controlled state legislature, are now considering cuts to education and the state work force, according to the Baltimore Sun. Under the plan, current employees would have to increase their pension contributions by 25%, (7% of their pay), or they could opt to continue contributing about 5.6% of their pay, but would risk decreased benefits. WaPo reports that new employees would have no choice and their early retirement age would be raised from 55 to 60. Daily Censored says that $94 million will be cut from k-12 education, with $15 of it coming entirely from Baltimore City Schools.


Connecticut’s Democratic Governor, Dan Malloy, has pitted unions against the cities, basing his budget almost entirely on union concessions worth $1 billion over the next two years, according to CBS news. If the unions refuse to accept the cuts, he has threatened to slash state funding for cities. Hearst Connecticut Newspapers says that the losses to cities could be as much as $67 million for Bridgeport, $10.4 million from Danbury, $4.9 million Stamford, $1.8 million from Greenwich, and $5 million from Norwalk."

Funny thing, Deanie..."evil" Democrats seem to be doing the same thing as "evil" Republicans. Gee, wonder why the author of your article didn't report on those cuts as well?

So Republicans are doing it because a few Democrats did? Is that how it works?

So where's the link. I want to go read it myself.

No, Democrats are doing it just like Republicans are doing it because revenues are down across the country and budgets need to be tightened. But you chose to focus ONLY on cuts being made in GOP controlled States, proving once again that you are a partisan hack.
If you REALLY want to see the link then Google it like I did. Cuts are being made in Democraticaly controlled legislations as well as GOP controlled legislations now that they can't use the Obama Stimulus to keep teachers working with borrowed Federal dollars...cuts that should have been made two years ago. You used a biased web site to attack Republicans for doing something that Democrats are also doing. It's what you ALWAYS do and why you get so little respect here.
 
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Vincent Giordano, vice president of the New Jersey Education Association, the state’s largest teachers union, tossed off the remark in response to a question by host Rafael Pi Roman on the morning talk show "New Jersey Capitol Report," which aired last weekend and continues in rotation this week on various public TV channels, including NJTV.

Pi Roman pressed Giordano on students who are stuck in failing public schools (video may be seen here):

Pi Roman: The issue of fairness, I mean this is the argument a lot of voucher supporters make. People who are well off have options. Somebody who is not well off and whose child is in a failing school, why shouldn't that person, those parents, have the same options to get the kid out of the failing school and into one that works, with the help of the state?

Giordano: Those parents should have exactly the same options, and they do. We don't say that you can't take your kid out of the public school. We would argue not and we would say 'let's work more closely and more harmoniously' …

Pi Roman: They can't afford to pay, you know that. Some of these parents can't afford to take their child out of these schools.

Giordano: Life's not always fair and I'm sorry about that.


High-paid NJEA official Vince Giordano to poor students: 'Life's not always fair.' | NJ.com

Poor kids stuck in dangerous failing schools is just part of life, (as we like it) says a big Dem supporter. Unbelievable. :(

One could describe Mr. Giordana as an elitist bigot, couldn't one?
 
Vincent Giordano, vice president of the New Jersey Education Association, the state’s largest teachers union, tossed off the remark in response to a question by host Rafael Pi Roman on the morning talk show "New Jersey Capitol Report," which aired last weekend and continues in rotation this week on various public TV channels, including NJTV.

Pi Roman pressed Giordano on students who are stuck in failing public schools (video may be seen here):

Pi Roman: The issue of fairness, I mean this is the argument a lot of voucher supporters make. People who are well off have options. Somebody who is not well off and whose child is in a failing school, why shouldn't that person, those parents, have the same options to get the kid out of the failing school and into one that works, with the help of the state?

Giordano: Those parents should have exactly the same options, and they do. We don't say that you can't take your kid out of the public school. We would argue not and we would say 'let's work more closely and more harmoniously' …

Pi Roman: They can't afford to pay, you know that. Some of these parents can't afford to take their child out of these schools.

Giordano: Life's not always fair and I'm sorry about that.


High-paid NJEA official Vince Giordano to poor students: 'Life's not always fair.' | NJ.com

Poor kids stuck in dangerous failing schools is just part of life, (as we like it) says a big Dem supporter. Unbelievable. :(

One could describe Mr. Giordana as an elitist bigot, couldn't one?

no. one could say that mr. giordano doesn't think all kids are entitled to a PRIVATE PAROCHIAL SCHOOL education. You know that's what he was really talking about, right?

Vouchers are a means of sucking money away from public schools in order to fund the religious indoctrination of children.

Sorry, I'm not overly sympathetic.
 
Vouchers are a band aid for a gashing wound. I do not see them as a panacea, but at least a safety net for a few thousand kids, whose parents are crying for help.

Would you send your child to a Newark or Camden public school Jillian? I ask that same question to my NJEA friends, and everyone says, "Thank goodness I don't live there". No one has an answer, and that's why Mr. Giordano put his elitist foot in his mouth.
 

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