Google celebrates 41st Anniversary of an Ape called "Lucy."

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    No scientific theory has ever been proven. That isn't how science works. Since you aren't familiar with this basic premise of science, I will assume it is safe to say you aren't aware of the theories - there are more than one and they aren't competing theories - that attempt to descibe the scientific fact of evolution. So it follows that you most likely don't know what you are talking about. And therefore your rebuttal isn't valid or credible.
     
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    Save the snarky retorts for those claiming evolution is a fact, or that there is 'massive tons of evidence' for it. It isn't even a theory at this point, just wishful thinking.

    You must be talking about yourself when babbling about theories and the basic premises of science, since you likely don't have the first clue about theory versus speculation and what constitutes empirical evidence.

    Hint: A handful of bone fragments from extinct species of apes over millions of years don't support the evolution worshippers' claims.
     
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    But it is a theory, a very solid theory, and there are huge amounts of evidence that support it. All you need to do is a little research on-line.
     
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    Evolution is a fact. It is a scientific fact. The Theory of Evolution through Natural Selection is a theory that attempts to describe and explain evolution. There are other theories that also attempt this through genetic drift, sexual selection, etc.

    The theories of evolution are supported by empirical evidence from the fields of geology, paleontology, anthropology, biochemistry, biology, and physics. ERV DNA code found in primate DNA and human DNA is incontrovertible.

    Don't be know what ERVs are? Retrovirus DNA randomly inserted in an early ancestor of chimpanzees and humans shows up identically in humans and chimpanzees in the identical spot in the the identical strand of DNA. Creation advocates attempt to explain this away as coincidence or a preclusion for retroviruses to insert DNA only in specific places or specific DNA. There is no empirical evidence to support such a claim and there is observable, repeatable evidence that retroviruses insert their DNA randomly with no proclivity for specific sites.

    How would you explain that? Is that just "speculation"?
     
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    The religious "explanation" is "God did it".
    No need for curiosity, or explaining why God created Chimps and other hominids; it's simply "God's will".
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    It is also accompanied by a photo resembling a character costume from Planet of the Apes. It is certainly not a photograph of Lucy or her remains.
     
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    Barney the Dinosaur's Facebook page?

    What there is are huge amounts of evidence lacking in support of the evolution speculation. It's a genre of writing, and there are shelves of similar writings in most bookstores and libraries under the heading of 'Science Fiction', some of which have more science behind their speculations than evolution does.
     
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    I'm not a creationist; go ask one of them. As for the rest of your assorted handwaves, they don't constitute evidence either, they are just speculation as well, and in no way constitute empirical evidence.
     
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    Would you explain for me why you think DNA evidence for common descent is just speculation? I ask because I don't understand at all how you could perceive it that way. Your point of view must just be totally different from mine and I want to understand better, especially because you say you aren't a creationist.
     
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    What you want is a discussion on metaphysics, i.e. the attempt at attributing teleological interpretations to an ateological 'theory' for which there is no significant evidence for; there is no other premise than "We Hate the Xians!!!", and using some little factoid or other to represent the whole argument, rather than presenting any real empirical chain of evidence. Conspiracy theories, and political ideologies as well, use the same tactic.
     
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