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    No surprise here that the Vikings are jackasses. Packer fans have always known that. Luckily we have a wholesome team, (well except for that little Mark Chmura episode).

    Vikings' cruise at center of sex inquiry


    By DON SEEHOLZER AND SEAN JENSEN

    St. Paul Pioneer Press

    ST. PAUL, Minn. - The Hennepin County Sheriff's Department is investigating allegations of criminal sexual conduct by Minnesota Vikings players after a boat cruise on Lake Minnetonka devolved into an out-of-control party that included lap dances and sexual acts, according to an attorney for the charter boat company.

    Stephen Doyle, a lawyer representing the owners of Al and Alma's, a company that charters cruises on the lake, said cornerback Fred Smoot and another Vikings player, whom he declined to name, reserved a charter for a night-time excursion last Thursday.

    "From our end, I don't know the name of the other primary person, but we turned over to the police today documents that show signatures or credit cards or whatever was associated with closing this deal," Doyle said.

    A woman called Mound police Thursday night to report allegations of "possible prostitution, drugs and live sex acts" on the two boats. According to the police report, the woman said she and her brother's girlfriend served as hostesses on the ships.

    Doyle said he didn't learn details of what allegedly happened until he sat down Tuesday with six of the eight crewmembers.

    Doyle said about 90 people were on the two boats. According to a Vikings player who spoke on the condition of anonymity, about 15 Vikings players were on a charter as part of what he described as a "team event." The player said that he was unaware of any sexual acts and that the cruise lasted less than 90 minutes. Doyle said he believed it to be a tradition for Vikings rookies and first-year players to take their teammates out.

    Upon returning to the dock, the player said, there were no police officers present and he did not know of any problems on the boats.

    Contacted Tuesday afternoon, Smoot indicated that the allegations are exaggerated.

    "It's slanderous," he said. "If (Doyle is) bringing my name up like this, I'm going to sue them. Other than that, I ain't got nothing else to say."

    Asked if he was denying involvement in the allegations, Smoot said, "It ain't even what they're talking about."

    Doyle said further details will be released in the coming days.

    "I actually have the names of about 16 or 17 other Vikings that my crew believe were on board," he said, "and a number of them they would be inclined to describe as being involved in these activities. The reason I'm holding off on this answer is two-fold.

    "One is, when the particulars of this story come out, I think it's going to be perceived by most people as just horrendous. I want to be very, very careful that we not put a name out there of somebody who wasn't there because the implications, I think, will be serious. Secondly, not everyone (who) was on board (who) was a Viking participated in this. My crew members tell me there were a couple of them that kept saying, `I'm sorry.' ... There were players that were embarrassed by it."

    The Vikings released a statement Tuesday night, saying, "The organization has been made aware of the allegations involving our players, and we take these allegations very seriously. We are working diligently to gather as many facts as possible. At this time, we have no further comment."

    Sgt. Haans Vitek of the Hennepin County Sheriff's Department said the investigation is ongoing.

    "At this point, we're still trying to sort out who was there," Vitek said. "We understand there may be some Vikings personnel involved. We're not sure who they are and what they were doing."

    According to Doyle, the boats were chartered from 8:30 p.m. to midnight, but pushed off about an hour late.

    "They were out for a bit, and then the crew was serving drinks and hors d'oeuvres and stuff," he said. "I think the first thing they noticed was some of the women that were on board seemed to be either changing clothes or undressing. And then they went into a galley, and there were three of them in the nude that were changing clothes. That was followed by them coming out and some of them doing lap dances. ... That's where it started, and then it just progressed to just bizarre."

    Doyle said the crew, in accordance with company policy, reported what was happening to the captain of each boat, who called the home base and were told to come back in.

    "Now they're still 40 minutes out, and they're getting frightened," Doyle said. "Some of the Vikings are yelling at the waiters and waitresses ... and wanting drinks faster and trying to take over parts of the bar, trying to pour their own drinks. ... It's just really bizarre, bad, terrible behavior.

    "Like I said, these kids are petrified. They're afraid for their own safety. There are people doing sexual acts with toys in the middle of the floor. They're on a boat here, having to walk around and serve a drink, afraid to stop serving drinks because they're afraid that people will hurt them. It's just really unacceptable what they did - the arrogance and the rudeness and all of those things combined.

    "They get them into the dock and eventually get off the boat. We're talking about a scene with used condoms on the boats laying around, handy wipes used by the women laying around, drinks thrown and poured in places. It's amazing."

    Doyle said he was busy with media interviews Tuesday and hadn't provided the names of any Vikings players to police, but was trying to set up a meeting with them Wednesday.

    He also said he placed a number of calls to the Vikings' offices but didn't receive a reply.

    An NFL spokesman declined to comment on the allegations against Vikings players, but the league's personal conduct policy clearly states that league employees can be subject to discipline.

    "Engaging in violent and/or criminal activity is unacceptable and constitutes conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the National Football League," the policy summary reads. "Such conduct alienates the fans on whom the success of the league depends and has negative and sometimes tragic consequences for both the victim and the perpetrator."

    People charged or arrested with conduct prohibited by this policy will be "required to undergo a clinical evaluation and, if appropriate, additional counseling or treatment as directed."

    Failure to comply with evaluation and counseling obligations could be considered conduct detrimental to the NFL, punishable by "fine or suspension at the discretion of the commissioner."
     
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    Vikings are a joke. With that said, go Culpepper who i coincidentally just traded for in FF. ;)
     
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    I knew when I saw this yesterday you would be ALL over it...
     
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    Hey, a couple weeks ago I was in Minneapolis and I actually went to the Vikings game. Fans were GIVING AWAY their tickets. That would never happen at Lambeau. Vikings were winning against NO. People started leaving at the beginning of the third quarter. Ouch!

    As I mentioned, at least they got rid of Moss!
     
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    Packers fans are a unique breed, to say the least... but you guys still flee the stadium when your team is losing just like everyone else.

    But can I really say? I'm a LIONS fan!
     
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    The Broncos fans pretty much stay to the end, even if they are losing. The Stadium has been sold out for as long as I remember.
     
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    Earlier in the year I traded Culpepper and JJ Arrington for Stephen Davis, Deshaun Foster, and Jake Delhomme. I think I got a pretty good deal.
     
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    Are you sure you are telling the truth?

    Um, I LIVE in Mn. Vikings fans NEVER just give away their tickets. You have to be on a waiting list to get season tickets. I know because I wanted to get a package for my dad for his birthday. Single game tickets are so expensive, combined with parking, because you have to find a private lot/ramp at $25-45 a shot (even more) because the dome does not have parking spaces. Then you usually end up walking several blocks. Going to a game, you end up spending about $75-100 per person by the end of the night.

    They may stand outside and sell them, but don't give them away. I do know of many who left during the first half of the 2nd game though.
     
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    After me and my buddy bought our tickets (50 yard line!) for $25 each (way below face value), we saw other people trying to give them away. I swear! I walked to the stadium from my downtown hotel. So the whole thing cost me $25 plus beer.
     
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    The Vikings fans were fleeing the stadium when the Vikings were WINNING!

    Youve never been to Lambeau, have you? People don't leave. Admittedly there is nothing else to do in Green Bay.

    My bro and his family moved to Detroit, so I am hoping to see a Packers/Lions game there someday. How's your new stadium?
     

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