Good Read - Terror in the Skies again...last month

[CSM]

I wish I could say that I had slipped security a note denoting that individual as "suspicious" (something this guy swore I did!) but alas I cannot claim credit. Truthfully, I was laughing my head off at him each time it happened.

 

[Annie]

I wish I could say that I had slipped security a note denoting that individual as "suspicious" (something this guy swore I did!) but alas I cannot claim credit. Truthfully, I was laughing my head off at him each time it happened.

Not nearly the same scenario, but one of my kids, an 8th grader, on our 'class trip' to DC, got seached EVERYWHERE! Now go figure, 14 years old, Swedish and Catholic! Doh, they blowing up anything?

My dad, 85 years old, has 2 knee replacements, pacemaker, artifical hip and purple heart! He has to take his shoes, belt and teeth out each time. Go figure?

 

[insein]

Even if the story is made up, don't you think the terrorists could pull this off? Is that law about not being able to pull more than 2 arab people over accurate? I think it is. Which is total BULLSHIT!!!

The socialists and their PC society are going to kill us all.

 

[Annie]

Even if the story is made up, don't you think the terrorists could pull this off? Is that law about not being able to pull more than 2 arab people over accurate? I think it is. Which is total BULLSHIT!!!

The socialists and their PC society are going to kill us all.

That's my fear!

 

[lilcountriegal]

Even if the story is made up, don't you think the terrorists could pull this off? Is that law about not being able to pull more than 2 arab people over accurate? I think it is. Which is total BULLSHIT!!!

Completely agreed!!!! What terrorist wouldnt board a plane with at least 10 others, even if you only need 2 of them to actually plant the materials. Odds are much better that they arent the 2 that are searched.... its a ridiculous law if it's true.

 

[CSM]

The law is NOT acurate as far as I know. One of my units was assigned airport security for some time after 9/11, and that was NOT EVER briefed to them. As to what was actually briefed, well, that is classified.

 

[dmp]

I'm wondering if those of you who've replied with comments like "The 'Can only check 2 arabs' rule is :bs:" are the same ppl who may have been giving ME crap in the 'which rights would you change' thread? You know - those of you whining and complaining about 'being inconvienanced due to reasons of National Security'



If the shoe fits....

 

[dmp]

The law is NOT acurate as far as I know. One of my units was assigned airport security for some time after 9/11, and that was NOT EVER briefed to them. As to what was actually briefed, well, that is classified.

Classified as what?

 

[lilcountriegal]

The law is NOT acurate as far as I know. One of my units was assigned airport security for some time after 9/11, and that was NOT EVER briefed to them. As to what was actually briefed, well, that is classified.

was the law re airport security or actual security on the plane? Ill have to go back and reread, but I took it as no more than 2 on the plane could be singled out. Further in the article it lists settlements from American and United (I believe) for this same situation.

Dont hold me to that... I'll have to review..

 

[CSM]

Classified as secret. Can't tell the bad guys what we are looking for now can we?

I can say this: despite all the rhetoric and denigration of government personnel, etc., not all of them are as dumb as they look.

 

[lilcountriegal]

As a follow up, it is on the actual flight (at least how i understand it)

and I believe remains the policy today to fine airlines if they have more than two young Arab males in secondary questioning because that's discriminatory.

So even if Northwest Airlines searched two of the men on board my Northwest flight, they couldn't search the other 12 because they would have already filled a government-imposed quota.

 

[CSM]

I guess I am a bit confused. I suppose the airlines could retain people for questioning, but it is my understanding that most secondary questiioning is now done by federalized security personnel or local law enforcement.

 

[dmp]

When I was a stinger Gunner/Team leader, we used a box which contained a code that was transmitted to an approaching air craft. When the air craft recieved the code, it sent a 'solution' to the code, which came back to the Stinger Missle operator in the form of an audable response. The programing information we used for the codes was classified as 'Confidential' because should the enemy get it, they could broadcast OUR codes to our Missile Operators. As many potential enemies use aircraft of similiar design, that code could be one of the deciding factors on if the Gunner should fire. All of the Job series had to hold a Secret Clearance.

Also - Part of my current job we deal with actual move dates, places, routes, etc, of MAJOR Army units, yet it's only classified as FOUO (For Official Use Only).

Thus it is interesting they use such a high classification for what boils down to 'Rules of Engagement'.

 

[CSM]

I understand. I do not know who determined the classification level, but that was how it was briefed.

 

[Annie]

This is going around pretty intensely:

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/000207.htm

 

[dilloduck]

cool--a no lose situation---practice your bomb making and if you get challenged claim "discrimnation". While personal rights are important, they also make us vulnerable.

 

[Annie]

cool--a no lose situation---practice your bomb making and if you get challenged claim "discrimnation". While personal rights are important, they also make us vulnerable.

Yup and they let them go as a 'band'. Too weird!

 

[dilloduck]

But can they play INAGODDADAVIDA ????

 

[Annie]

Weird to bump something this old, but there's more coming out:

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20070527-115545-3054r.htm

More details on Flight 327 released

By Audrey Hudson
May 27, 2007

The inspector general for Homeland Security late Friday released new details of what federal air marshals say was a terrorist dry run aboard Northwest Airlines Flight 327 from Detroit to Los Angeles on June 29, 2004.

Several portions of the report remain redacted. The release stems from a Freedom of Information request by The Washington Times in April 2006. The Times first reported on July 22 that this and other probes and dry runs were occurring on commercial flights since the September 11 terrorist attacks.

Look for the full report in Wednesday's edition of The Times.
Excerpts fom 51-page inspector general report:

On the flight, 13 Middle Eastern men behaved in a suspicious manner that aroused the attention and concern of the flight attendants, passengers, air marshals and pilots.​

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