Good On You Aust/NZ..

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    Why is that good?
     
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    Why isn't it? Any type of policy that encourages people to give up smoking is good IMO....
     
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    Is it the government's job to encourage people to give up smoking? Or should the people be free to choose whether they want to smoke or not? I'm of the opinion that if you have to use force to spread morality then it becomes inherently immoral.
     
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    Both NZ and Australia have public AND private health insurance. If my tax dollars are funding the public health system, then smokers can help fund that system via a tax on their disgusting habit.

    People are free to choose to smoke. Are they free to expect my tax dollars to pay for their hospital visits that are due to the direct result of their disgusting habit?
     
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    The Gov't has been wasting your little bit of tax dollar for a long time so quit whinning and get over it.
     
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    Two wrongs don't make a right. Just because those governments have taken it upon themselves to force taxpayers to subsidize everybody's health care doesn't somehow make forcing smokers to pay a ridiculous amount for their cigarettes right.
     
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    Nobody's spreading morality. If a person chooses to smoke and put a burden on the healtcare system, then that person should pay for it through higher taxation.
     
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    See my post above.
     
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    Your 'two wrongs' analogy doesn't fit down here because we live in a society that doesn't mind having a public health system, nor paying the tax dollars to fund it. What we do mind is people having particular habits that cause them to get sick, and expecting others to pay for it; and we also mind how the govt allocates the money, but that is a different story.

    Of course it makes it right. We also have some car insurance companies down here who will charge more to people who have more car accidents. Do you think if somebody has five car accidents in five years and I have none, that our premiums should be the same? No way....doesn't work like that...down here anyway...
     

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