Good News - Tyndale gets injunction against HHS mandate

If I was a woman who worked for a company that wanted to deny coverage for birth control I would be finding out real quick if they were covering other gender specific medication.

Apples and oranges. Viagra which you are referring to has nothing to do with preventing pregnancy or destroying a fertilized egg. In fact it AIDS in the act of impregnation by allowing the man to consummate the act.

Your argument is a failure.

Birth control aids in helping with other issue other than preventing pregnancy.
Your argument is a failure.

Insurance should not cover routine expenses, your entire premise is a failure.
 
Apples and oranges. Viagra which you are referring to has nothing to do with preventing pregnancy or destroying a fertilized egg. In fact it AIDS in the act of impregnation by allowing the man to consummate the act.

Your argument is a failure.

Birth control aids in helping with other issue other than preventing pregnancy.
Your argument is a failure.

Insurance should not cover routine expenses, your entire premise is a failure.

Routine expenses? Yeah that statement is stupid and a complete failure. Lol
 
Birth control aids in helping with other issue other than preventing pregnancy.
Your argument is a failure.

Insurance should not cover routine expenses, your entire premise is a failure.

Routine expenses? Yeah that statement is stupid and a complete failure. Lol

But do you understand what he's getting at? It's an important point that many in the reform movement haven't really thought about. First, you need to understand insurance, and most people get tripped up out of the gate with the modern (and completely irrational) assumption that health insurance is a good way to pay for health care.

Insurance is a horrible way to pay for health care. Not only does it add overhead by injecting an unnecessary middle-man in every health care transaction, it distorts market incentives in a way that drives price inflation. The less insurance we use the better. We should only rely on it for things we truly cannot afford and, instead, pay for as much of our health care as possible out of pocket. This will cost us less money in the long run, and restore reasonable downward price pressure on health care services.
 
The equate IUDs and Plan B with abortion? Is that what I am reading?

The government should stay out of it, but their females employees should sue them, especially if they cover such things as Viagra.
I agree that the government should stay out of it. Those who voted Obamacare in did exactly the opposite of that. The government is in it.

Back when Hillary was talking about this, I knew it would be a shitstorm getting government involved in folks healthcare.

But, that is what it is now.
 
Insurance should not cover routine expenses, your entire premise is a failure.

Routine expenses? Yeah that statement is stupid and a complete failure. Lol

But do you understand what he's getting at? It's an important point that many in the reform movement haven't really thought about. First, you need to understand insurance, and most people get tripped up out of the gate with the modern (and completely irrational) assumption that health insurance is a good way to pay for health care.

Insurance is a horrible way to pay for health care. Not only does it add overhead by injecting an unnecessary middle-man in every health care transaction, it distorts market incentives in a way that drives price inflation. The less insurance we use the better. We should only rely on it for things we truly cannot afford and, instead, pay for as much of our health care as possible out of pocket. This will cost us less money in the long run, and restore reasonable downward price pressure on health care services.

That works if you are healthy or only have minor health issues.
Some of us who live in the real world understand how expensive medical costs can actually get.
 
Routine expenses? Yeah that statement is stupid and a complete failure. Lol

But do you understand what he's getting at? It's an important point that many in the reform movement haven't really thought about. First, you need to understand insurance, and most people get tripped up out of the gate with the modern (and completely irrational) assumption that health insurance is a good way to pay for health care.

Insurance is a horrible way to pay for health care. Not only does it add overhead by injecting an unnecessary middle-man in every health care transaction, it distorts market incentives in a way that drives price inflation. The less insurance we use the better. We should only rely on it for things we truly cannot afford and, instead, pay for as much of our health care as possible out of pocket. This will cost us less money in the long run, and restore reasonable downward price pressure on health care services.

That works if you are healthy or only have minor health issues.
Some of us who live in the real world understand how expensive medical costs can actually get.

Read what I wrote again. You're not getting it. Obviously we need insurance, or some other 'safety net', to deal with the extremes. But most of life isn't 'extremes'. There's simply no reason we shouldn't be paying for as much of our own routine health care expenses as we can manage. And lots of reasons why it's bad to rely on insurance for these expected costs.

If you don't want to re-read, or reconsider, the point we're making, at least listen to this: Would you rather give your money directly to doctors, or do you see some inherent benefit in giving it first to the insurance company who (after taking their 'percentage') then pays the doctor. Does that really make any sense? Wouldn't it be better to pay the doctor directly and only enlist insurance for the unexpected catastrophes that would otherwise bankrupt you?
 
But do you understand what he's getting at? It's an important point that many in the reform movement haven't really thought about. First, you need to understand insurance, and most people get tripped up out of the gate with the modern (and completely irrational) assumption that health insurance is a good way to pay for health care.

Insurance is a horrible way to pay for health care. Not only does it add overhead by injecting an unnecessary middle-man in every health care transaction, it distorts market incentives in a way that drives price inflation. The less insurance we use the better. We should only rely on it for things we truly cannot afford and, instead, pay for as much of our health care as possible out of pocket. This will cost us less money in the long run, and restore reasonable downward price pressure on health care services.

That works if you are healthy or only have minor health issues.
Some of us who live in the real world understand how expensive medical costs can actually get.

Read what I wrote again. You're not getting it. Obviously we need insurance, or some other 'safety net', to deal with the extremes. But most of life isn't 'extremes'. There's simply no reason we shouldn't be paying for as much of our own routine health care expenses as we can manage. And lots of reasons why it's bad to rely on insurance for these expected costs.

If you don't want to re-read, or reconsider, the point we're making, at least listen to this: Would you rather give your money directly to doctors, or do you see some inherent benefit in giving it first to the insurance company who (after taking their 'percentage') then pays the doctor. Does that really make any sense? Wouldn't it be better to pay the doctor directly and only enlist insurance for the unexpected catastrophes that would otherwise bankrupt you?

I read what you wrote, and like I said that only works of you are healthy or only have minor health care cost, or make a decent wage. It is also a good idea in theory but in today's world and market it would never work.
Do you want to re read by post to better understand it?
 
Not what I said smart one
Oh, then can you find where in ACA it says non-tax-exempt organizations don't have to cover birth control?

It doesn't. That wasn't what I was saying, my point flew over your head and I am sorry about that.

"They don't have to cover birth control as long as they are not tax exempt anymore. Problem solved."

Or it's more likely that you don't know what the hell you were saying.
 
If I was a woman who worked for a company that wanted to deny coverage for birth control I would be finding out real quick if they were covering other gender specific medication.
You know, women are allowed to buy their own birth control. True story!

And I pay every month for my health insurance to cover it. Your point?
They sell it to women without insurance coverage for it every day.
 
Oh, then can you find where in ACA it says non-tax-exempt organizations don't have to cover birth control?

It doesn't. That wasn't what I was saying, my point flew over your head and I am sorry about that.

"They don't have to cover birth control as long as they are not tax exempt anymore. Problem solved."

Or it's more likely that you don't know what the hell you were saying.

I was stating my opinion, like I said it flew over your head.
 
You know, women are allowed to buy their own birth control. True story!

And I pay every month for my health insurance to cover it. Your point?
They sell it to women without insurance coverage for it every day.

And I pay for health insurance so I don't have to pay full price, see how that works?
It's the only medication I take, and I rarely go to the doctor, so I feel completely fine with the insurance I pay for every month covering my birth control.
 
It doesn't. That wasn't what I was saying, my point flew over your head and I am sorry about that.

"They don't have to cover birth control as long as they are not tax exempt anymore. Problem solved."

Or it's more likely that you don't know what the hell you were saying.

I was stating my opinion, like I said it flew over your head.
Your opinion is not based on the ACA, nor on the fact that Tyndale is NOT tax-exempt.

As a matter of fact, your opinion is based on your bigotry against believers.
 

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