Good Luck, America (You'll Need It)...

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    “I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Democracy simply doesn’t work.” — Kent Brockman

    By Theo Caldwell


    And here I believed that Obamacare, chronic 8 percent unemployment, stagnant economic growth, crippling spending and the potential for more would sink a sitting president. Boy howdy, was I ever wrong. I take small comfort that people far smarter than I am were much more mistaken than I was — Michael Barone and George Will among them — but even so, I and my fellow crestfallen conservatives must ask ourselves just why we were so far off the mark.

    My friend David Frum (also smarter than I am) has for years been urging Republicans to moderate if, in David’s parlance, they wish to orchestrate a “comeback” in national politics. With a monsoon of respect for David’s intellect, I disagree with that notion.

    Our previous nominee, John McCain, was as moderate as they come — even downright lefty on some issues — and he got trounced. Mitt Romney, meanwhile, despite apparently successful efforts to paint him as a corporate pirate, swinging in from the hard right with a dagger in his mouth and a briefcase full of pink slips in his free hand, is and was a moderate, too.

    This may seem like utter rhubarb to those who have been fed a steady diet of Romney’s supposed radicalism, but here is a man who spoke of tax cuts as “spending,” enacted gender quotas (see also, “binders”) and, not for nothing, constructed the state-level prototype for Obamacare.

    Moderate or not, we have seen that GOP presidential candidates are painted as extreme. With that in mind, can Republicans reconcile their core beliefs with an electorate that thinks in completely different terms? For example, we believe that a simpler tax system with lower rates increases tax revenue, while causing the wealthy to pay a greater share, and we can prove it by citing presidencies all the way back to Calvin Coolidge (as economist Thomas Sowell has done). But what good does that do when the reflex of every journalist, politician and undecided voter is to refer to tax cuts as something you “pay for”?

    On social issues, Republican candidates will always be asked the most difficult, gut-wrenching questions, regardless of whether they choose to campaign on such matters. In a way, this is a good thing, as it forces us to scrutinize our views. But Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock ought to have known that, sure as God made little green apples, Republicans running for office will be asked about abortion in the cases of rape, incest or the life of the mother. If the best you can do is make Leviticus sound like a Planned Parenthood pamphlet, let someone else run...

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    Look at the bright side. Four more years of Class Warfare, a continuing implosion of the job market, and the multiple demographic crisis that are about to hit -- will pretty much make the Dem Party irrelevant for a couple generations. And the Repubs are ALREADY irrelevent..

    Sooooo --- Freedom and choices are likely to be the winners.
     
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    A refreshingly optimistic viewpoint. Kudos. :)
     
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    The People don't want a 'Moderate.' That's just a corrupt MSM lie. The Entitlement crowd wants Socialist/Progressive extremists. These past couple of Elections proves that. What is a 'Moderate' anymore?
     
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    Republicans are playing the game wrong. They see the populace as supporting Democratic ideals but they've misread. They see Democrats making big promises and dismissing any possible setbacks. They offer a lot of promise and hope despite never delivering it. You only need to show people these things for 1 or 2 months to get them on your side if the opposition offers nothing.

    Republicans countered by sending out guys that were as close to Democrats as possible in the hopes that they would gain some Democrat voters to their side. All they managed to do was get Republican voters to not vote. I can't speak for everyone but I swore back in 2006 that I'd never vote for Romney and I never will. The guy is Ted Kennedy Lite. Anyway, avoiding that tangent.

    Republicans need to stop looking at the game in the spectrum of Washington corridor. They need to establish what their core ideals are. Then review which topics are most important to likely voters. From there find a guy that contains most of these ideals. Democrats do a great job of promoting candidates that embody all of their ideals. Republicans have gotten lucky twice in the last 30 years with Reagan and Bush. Otherwise they have a whole lot of nothing at the top.

    Will be interesting to see who they line up in 2016. It will tell us if they've learned any lessons.
     
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    I was just going to ask this.

    What is a moderate Republican? Moderate in the fiscal, moderate in the social or moderate in both? Conservative in the fiscal but moderate in the social?

    Thanks.
     
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    Nonexistant.
     
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    The MSM only asks that question of Republicans. They never ask that question of Democrats. Like i said, the Entitlement crowd does not want a 'Moderate.' They only want Socialist/Progressive extremists. And that's what we have currently running our Country.
     
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    Well, what defines a moderate? Is a Republican moderate different from a Dem moderate? Aren't blue dog Dems considered moderates and aren't they fiscally conservative/fiscally responsible and socially moderate? I lean that way, although my social moderate pov is likely more conservative than a blue dogs.
     
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    Good question. And it's time to start asking it of both Democrats & Republicans.
     

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