Good Luck, America (You'll Need It)...

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“I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Democracy simply doesn’t work.” — Kent Brockman

By Theo Caldwell


And here I believed that Obamacare, chronic 8 percent unemployment, stagnant economic growth, crippling spending and the potential for more would sink a sitting president. Boy howdy, was I ever wrong. I take small comfort that people far smarter than I am were much more mistaken than I was — Michael Barone and George Will among them — but even so, I and my fellow crestfallen conservatives must ask ourselves just why we were so far off the mark.

My friend David Frum (also smarter than I am) has for years been urging Republicans to moderate if, in David’s parlance, they wish to orchestrate a “comeback” in national politics. With a monsoon of respect for David’s intellect, I disagree with that notion.

Our previous nominee, John McCain, was as moderate as they come — even downright lefty on some issues — and he got trounced. Mitt Romney, meanwhile, despite apparently successful efforts to paint him as a corporate pirate, swinging in from the hard right with a dagger in his mouth and a briefcase full of pink slips in his free hand, is and was a moderate, too.

This may seem like utter rhubarb to those who have been fed a steady diet of Romney’s supposed radicalism, but here is a man who spoke of tax cuts as “spending,” enacted gender quotas (see also, “binders”) and, not for nothing, constructed the state-level prototype for Obamacare.

Moderate or not, we have seen that GOP presidential candidates are painted as extreme. With that in mind, can Republicans reconcile their core beliefs with an electorate that thinks in completely different terms? For example, we believe that a simpler tax system with lower rates increases tax revenue, while causing the wealthy to pay a greater share, and we can prove it by citing presidencies all the way back to Calvin Coolidge (as economist Thomas Sowell has done). But what good does that do when the reflex of every journalist, politician and undecided voter is to refer to tax cuts as something you “pay for”?

On social issues, Republican candidates will always be asked the most difficult, gut-wrenching questions, regardless of whether they choose to campaign on such matters. In a way, this is a good thing, as it forces us to scrutinize our views. But Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock ought to have known that, sure as God made little green apples, Republicans running for office will be asked about abortion in the cases of rape, incest or the life of the mother. If the best you can do is make Leviticus sound like a Planned Parenthood pamphlet, let someone else run...

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Look at the bright side. Four more years of Class Warfare, a continuing implosion of the job market, and the multiple demographic crisis that are about to hit -- will pretty much make the Dem Party irrelevant for a couple generations. And the Repubs are ALREADY irrelevent..

Sooooo --- Freedom and choices are likely to be the winners.
 
Look at the bright side. Four more years of Class Warfare, a continuing implosion of the job market, and the multiple demographic crisis that are about to hit -- will pretty much make the Dem Party irrelevant for a couple generations. And the Repubs are ALREADY irrelevent..

Sooooo --- Freedom and choices are likely to be the winners.

A refreshingly optimistic viewpoint. Kudos. :)
 
The People don't want a 'Moderate.' That's just a corrupt MSM lie. The Entitlement crowd wants Socialist/Progressive extremists. These past couple of Elections proves that. What is a 'Moderate' anymore?
 
Republicans are playing the game wrong. They see the populace as supporting Democratic ideals but they've misread. They see Democrats making big promises and dismissing any possible setbacks. They offer a lot of promise and hope despite never delivering it. You only need to show people these things for 1 or 2 months to get them on your side if the opposition offers nothing.

Republicans countered by sending out guys that were as close to Democrats as possible in the hopes that they would gain some Democrat voters to their side. All they managed to do was get Republican voters to not vote. I can't speak for everyone but I swore back in 2006 that I'd never vote for Romney and I never will. The guy is Ted Kennedy Lite. Anyway, avoiding that tangent.

Republicans need to stop looking at the game in the spectrum of Washington corridor. They need to establish what their core ideals are. Then review which topics are most important to likely voters. From there find a guy that contains most of these ideals. Democrats do a great job of promoting candidates that embody all of their ideals. Republicans have gotten lucky twice in the last 30 years with Reagan and Bush. Otherwise they have a whole lot of nothing at the top.

Will be interesting to see who they line up in 2016. It will tell us if they've learned any lessons.
 
The People don't want a 'Moderate.' That's just a corrupt MSM lie. The Entitlement crowd wants Socialist/Progressive extremists. These past couple of Elections proves that. What is a 'Moderate' anymore?

I was just going to ask this.

What is a moderate Republican? Moderate in the fiscal, moderate in the social or moderate in both? Conservative in the fiscal but moderate in the social?

Thanks.
 
The People don't want a 'Moderate.' That's just a corrupt MSM lie. The Entitlement crowd wants Socialist/Progressive extremists. These past couple of Elections proves that. What is a 'Moderate' anymore?

I was just going to ask this.

What is a moderate Republican? Moderate in the fiscal, moderate in the social or moderate in both? Conservative in the fiscal but moderate in the social?

Thanks.

The MSM only asks that question of Republicans. They never ask that question of Democrats. Like i said, the Entitlement crowd does not want a 'Moderate.' They only want Socialist/Progressive extremists. And that's what we have currently running our Country.
 
The People don't want a 'Moderate.' That's just a corrupt MSM lie. The Entitlement crowd wants Socialist/Progressive extremists. These past couple of Elections proves that. What is a 'Moderate' anymore?

I was just going to ask this.

What is a moderate Republican? Moderate in the fiscal, moderate in the social or moderate in both? Conservative in the fiscal but moderate in the social?

Thanks.

The MSM only asks that question of Republicans. They never ask that question of Democrats. Like i said, the Entitlement crowd does not want a 'Moderate.' They only want Socialist/Progressive extremists. And that's what we have currently running our Country.

Well, what defines a moderate? Is a Republican moderate different from a Dem moderate? Aren't blue dog Dems considered moderates and aren't they fiscally conservative/fiscally responsible and socially moderate? I lean that way, although my social moderate pov is likely more conservative than a blue dogs.
 
I was just going to ask this.

What is a moderate Republican? Moderate in the fiscal, moderate in the social or moderate in both? Conservative in the fiscal but moderate in the social?

Thanks.

The MSM only asks that question of Republicans. They never ask that question of Democrats. Like i said, the Entitlement crowd does not want a 'Moderate.' They only want Socialist/Progressive extremists. And that's what we have currently running our Country.

Well, what defines a moderate? Is a Republican moderate different from a Dem moderate? Aren't blue dog Dems considered moderates and aren't they fiscally conservative/fiscally responsible and socially moderate? I lean that way, although my social moderate pov is likely more conservative than a blue dogs.

Good question. And it's time to start asking it of both Democrats & Republicans.
 
then leave the country and dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out
 
then leave the country and dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out

Nah, only Socialist/Progressive wingnuts threaten to leave the country after Election losses. No, I think i'll hang around a bit. Sorry bout that. ;)
 
Moderate or not, we have seen that GOP presidential candidates are painted as extreme. With that in mind, can Republicans reconcile their core beliefs with an electorate that thinks in completely different terms? For example, we believe that a simpler tax system with lower rates increases tax revenue, while causing the wealthy to pay a greater share, and we can prove it by citing presidencies all the way back to Calvin Coolidge (as economist Thomas Sowell has done). But what good does that do when the reflex of every journalist, politician and undecided voter is to refer to tax cuts as something you “pay for”?

Then prove it. Why is the rhetoric coming from the right dominated by bigotry and hate and attacks and not by superior economic ideas? No one except me and a couple other people on the planet even know who Thomas Sowell is. And he's been around forever, since before Reagan. What's that say?

If the masses are not informed of the superior idea, that is because the superior idea is not being communicated. The GOP is way too cowardly these days to aggressively promote superior ideas. They prefer to attack the other guy's ideas instead because they are too stupid to comprehend, much less promote, superior ideas. The party is in serious need of weeding. The dumbshits are choking our conservative roots.

The bumper sticker rhetoric is all about "food stamp President" and "socialism" and "death panels". Tax reform doesn't even register a blip. Romney didn't help by being completely secretive about the details of his own tax reform.


On social issues, Republican candidates will always be asked the most difficult, gut-wrenching questions, regardless of whether they choose to campaign on such matters. In a way, this is a good thing, as it forces us to scrutinize our views. But Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock ought to have known that, sure as God made little green apples, Republicans running for office will be asked about abortion in the cases of rape, incest or the life of the mother. If the best you can do is make Leviticus sound like a Planned Parenthood pamphlet, let someone else run...

Exactly. The Left and the media invariably use victims of rape and incest as human shields to conceal the one million-plus abortions each year, and Republican moron candidates fall into the same goddam trap every single time, making asses of themselves.

This bullshit tactic of the Left can be easily exploded, but the intellectual dearth in our candidates is unable to overcome even this simple obstacle.

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The OP is basically more of the same. More of the lies, hysteria, and bullshit that they've been spewing for years.

Americans aren't as stupid as the GOP seems to think. And that is THE number one reason why Romney lost.
 
Moderate or not, we have seen that GOP presidential candidates are painted as extreme. With that in mind, can Republicans reconcile their core beliefs with an electorate that thinks in completely different terms? For example, we believe that a simpler tax system with lower rates increases tax revenue, while causing the wealthy to pay a greater share, and we can prove it by citing presidencies all the way back to Calvin Coolidge (as economist Thomas Sowell has done). But what good does that do when the reflex of every journalist, politician and undecided voter is to refer to tax cuts as something you “pay for”?

Then prove it. Why is the rhetoric coming from the right dominated by bigotry and hate and attacks and not by superior economic ideas? No one except me and a couple other people on the planet even know who Thomas Sowell is. And he's been around forever, since before Reagan. What's that say?

If the masses are not informed of the superior idea, that is because the superior idea is not being communicated. The GOP is way too cowardly these days to aggressively promote superior ideas. They prefer to attack the other guy's ideas instead because they are too stupid to comprehend, much less promote, superior ideas. The party is in serious need of weeding. The dumbshits are choking our conservative roots.

The bumper sticker rhetoric is all about "food stamp President" and "socialism" and "death panels". Tax reform doesn't even register a blip. Romney didn't help by being completely secretive about the details of his own tax reform.


On social issues, Republican candidates will always be asked the most difficult, gut-wrenching questions, regardless of whether they choose to campaign on such matters. In a way, this is a good thing, as it forces us to scrutinize our views. But Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock ought to have known that, sure as God made little green apples, Republicans running for office will be asked about abortion in the cases of rape, incest or the life of the mother. If the best you can do is make Leviticus sound like a Planned Parenthood pamphlet, let someone else run...

Exactly. The Left and the media invariably use victims of rape and incest as human shields to conceal the one million-plus abortions each year, and Republican moron candidates fall into the same goddam trap every single time, making asses of themselves.

This bullshit tactic of the Left can be easily exploded, but the intellectual dearth in our candidates is unable to overcome even this simple obstacle.

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You never did comment on the video I posted for you. That candidate is the one who brought up rape. Not the questioner.

Fail.
 
The OP is basically more of the same. More of the lies, hysteria, and bullshit that they've been spewing for years.

Americans aren't as stupid as the GOP seems to think. And that is THE number one reason why Romney lost.

Oh no, most are stupid. Seriously, it's true. If they weren't, there's no way Barack Obama would have been reelected. He's been a miserable failure. But hey, it's all about the Freebies. Enjoy your four more years of misery. You definitely deserve it. ;)
 
The OP is basically more of the same. More of the lies, hysteria, and bullshit that they've been spewing for years.

Americans aren't as stupid as the GOP seems to think. And that is THE number one reason why Romney lost.

Asshat or tin foil hat, that's the choices I see when it comes to the OP. Give us some sensible conservatives, please! Given the right circumstances, I might be one myself! :D
 
The OP is basically more of the same. More of the lies, hysteria, and bullshit that they've been spewing for years.

Americans aren't as stupid as the GOP seems to think. And that is THE number one reason why Romney lost.

Oh no, most are stupid. Seriously, it's true. If they weren't, there's no way Barack Obama would have been reelected. He's been a miserable failure. But hey, it's all about the Freebies. Enjoy your four more years of misery. You definitely deserve it. ;)

Freebies for the 47% Mr. Sketch was talking about?

No wonder they lost! But do keep up the denigrating talking points, Democrats need a super majority in the Senate and control of the House in 2015
 
The OP is basically more of the same. More of the lies, hysteria, and bullshit that they've been spewing for years.

Americans aren't as stupid as the GOP seems to think. And that is THE number one reason why Romney lost.

Oh no, most are stupid. Seriously, it's true. If they weren't, there's no way Barack Obama would have been reelected. He's been a miserable failure. But hey, it's all about the Freebies. Enjoy your four more years of misery. You definitely deserve it. ;)

Freebies for the 47% Mr. Sketch was talking about?

No wonder they lost! But do keep up the denigrating talking points, Democrats need a super majority in the Senate and control of the House in 2015

You really think this nation will be fiscally sound with only 1/2 of the working folks contributing to the General Fund? Yes there are military and retired in that number, but they make enough money to be FILING a 1040 right? That 47% is NOT Citizens or Families. It's just the percentage of FILERS. Doesn't count folks not required to file --- the people who TRULY don't make enough to be Forced to contribute..

So it's likely that OVER half of families in this country pay NOTHING to the day/day running of the Fed Govt that they apparently love..
 
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Liberty is a dead cause. The country is overrun with people who have no idea what that word means and probably wouldn't care if they did. :(
 

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