This morning while driving to work, I had a vision of what God would say to resolve the court issue of the Cross in the Mt. Soledad case and also the Mohave case.
The best explanation of the Cross I ever heard came from a Lutheran Pastor.
To paraphrase, he explained that the Relationship between God and Man was represented by the Vertical Bar, where Grace is given freely by God without condition or earning it.
However, the Horizontal Bar represented Man's relationship with Man, and here there is forgiveness and restitution earned and given in order to keep just relationships; it is not freely given, just because you are forgiven by Grace from God does not mean you do not owe restitution to your neighbor if you commit a fault or a trespass.
So the position of Jesus Christ on the Center of the Cross fulfills both and joins them both.
He is the center of both Man's Relationship with God, and Man's relations with Man.
So the message I got from this vision, which I believe is from God,
is that the atheist(s) suing to remove the Cross have every right to remove the Vertical Bar, but the Horizontal Bar includes and represents them as well.
They may either offer a different way to hold this bar up, without a Vertical Bar as a support, so they do not have to acknowledge the religious part they do not believe in.
(Does this mean to leave the Bar on the ground? To suspend it in air with no support?)
Or if they remove the whole thing, they are also removing and rejecting the part of the Cross that represents them, as secular gentiles living in the real world with real world relations with others. They are included in this paradigm, which is offered to them freely, but if they wish to reject that, that is their choice and must be respected as God respects free will.
Either way, the message would be offered and accepted by those who find wisdom in it.
That is the point, to share the message and meaning, and not the Cross itself.
That is the interpretation and message I got this morning.
Do you believe it comes from God, that it speaks universal truth or there is wisdom in it?
If I follow this line of thinking, and write a letter to the Court and to all parties,
what do you imagine might be the response? How would you respond?
Any comments or suggestions?
I thought this was an interesting idea, regardless what it means or where it came from.
I credit Sr. Pastor Moore at Christ the King Lutheran Church for this interpretation of the Cross, which includes secular gentiles and the real world relationship and does not excuse abuses as if God's forgiveness makes these go away without responsibility to fellow man.
Thank you for this!
Yours truly,
Emily
The best explanation of the Cross I ever heard came from a Lutheran Pastor.
To paraphrase, he explained that the Relationship between God and Man was represented by the Vertical Bar, where Grace is given freely by God without condition or earning it.
However, the Horizontal Bar represented Man's relationship with Man, and here there is forgiveness and restitution earned and given in order to keep just relationships; it is not freely given, just because you are forgiven by Grace from God does not mean you do not owe restitution to your neighbor if you commit a fault or a trespass.
So the position of Jesus Christ on the Center of the Cross fulfills both and joins them both.
He is the center of both Man's Relationship with God, and Man's relations with Man.
So the message I got from this vision, which I believe is from God,
is that the atheist(s) suing to remove the Cross have every right to remove the Vertical Bar, but the Horizontal Bar includes and represents them as well.
They may either offer a different way to hold this bar up, without a Vertical Bar as a support, so they do not have to acknowledge the religious part they do not believe in.
(Does this mean to leave the Bar on the ground? To suspend it in air with no support?)
Or if they remove the whole thing, they are also removing and rejecting the part of the Cross that represents them, as secular gentiles living in the real world with real world relations with others. They are included in this paradigm, which is offered to them freely, but if they wish to reject that, that is their choice and must be respected as God respects free will.
Either way, the message would be offered and accepted by those who find wisdom in it.
That is the point, to share the message and meaning, and not the Cross itself.
That is the interpretation and message I got this morning.
Do you believe it comes from God, that it speaks universal truth or there is wisdom in it?
If I follow this line of thinking, and write a letter to the Court and to all parties,
what do you imagine might be the response? How would you respond?
Any comments or suggestions?
I thought this was an interesting idea, regardless what it means or where it came from.
I credit Sr. Pastor Moore at Christ the King Lutheran Church for this interpretation of the Cross, which includes secular gentiles and the real world relationship and does not excuse abuses as if God's forgiveness makes these go away without responsibility to fellow man.
Thank you for this!
Yours truly,
Emily