God's Army

[Ravi]

Which offends you most Ravy? God or Army? How about those shotgun toting black panthers intimidating voters? Maybe Bill Ayers still seems like a visionary?

I don't approve of guns in church, Ayers, or black panthers.

Thanks for asking.

 

[DaGoose]

Did he kill people? IMO, he would be disturbed at the turning of a church into a wild west saloon.

Well, that would depend on your view of the Trinity. If Jesus was God in human form and God killed people in the Old Testament, then yes he has. He has also defended people.

Ah...but Jesus was the kinder, gentler god that preached peace and turning the other cheek. If we were discussing the God of the OT, you'd have a point.

Exactly. You would have the God that had young children killed for making fun of someone who was bald. You would have the God who not only condoned but ordered the rape of women.

 

[goldcatt]

I'm not particularly concerned about what some paranoid people want to do in their own church. I can simply refuse to attend any place of worship where people with a persecution complex are running around with guns looking for trouble. None of my business.

My question is a little broader. "Army of God"? Really? Who is the "enemy" this "Army" needs to be ready to fight?

 

[jillian]

Luke 22:36 (Jesus) He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.

I don't know if kw has noticed or not, but Jesus never comes down and smites bad guys.

Don't know if you ever studied the Bible, but Jesus was God in human form and was capable of anger.

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oh puleeze... seriously?

whatever happened to turn the other cheek?

selective much?

 

[editec]

If people want to bring their guns to their church who am I to tell then not to?

They know what GOD they worship.

 

[strollingbones]

Damn, there's a lot of paranoid weirdos floating around the United States. I don't mind churches organizing self-defense courses however what's the point of concealed weapons in church!?

if you are in a concealed weapon state....guns are all over

 

[Samson]

I'm not particularly concerned about what some paranoid people want to do in their own church. I can simply refuse to attend any place of worship where people with a persecution complex are running around with guns looking for trouble. None of my business.

My question is a little broader. "Army of God"? Really? Who is the "enemy" this "Army" needs to be ready to fight?

The enemy is clearly people who let their dog's crap in my yard.

 

[goldcatt]

I'm not particularly concerned about what some paranoid people want to do in their own church. I can simply refuse to attend any place of worship where people with a persecution complex are running around with guns looking for trouble. None of my business.

My question is a little broader. "Army of God"? Really? Who is the "enemy" this "Army" needs to be ready to fight?

The enemy is clearly people who let their dog's crap in my yard.

Well that's a different story!

 

[Samson]

I'm not particularly concerned about what some paranoid people want to do in their own church. I can simply refuse to attend any place of worship where people with a persecution complex are running around with guns looking for trouble. None of my business.

My question is a little broader. "Army of God"? Really? Who is the "enemy" this "Army" needs to be ready to fight?

The enemy is clearly people who let their dog's crap in my yard.

Well that's a different story!

I'm pretty sure I could form a congregation of armed religious zealots dedicated to battling this enemy

 

[goldcatt]

The enemy is clearly people who let their dog's crap in my yard.

Well that's a different story!

I'm pretty sure I could form a congregation of armed religious zealots dedicated to battling this enemy

But if you're going to have a Church of the Holy Lawn Crapper Busters, you'd better make sure they're well-trained.

 

[kwc57]

Did he kill people? IMO, he would be disturbed at the turning of a church into a wild west saloon.

Well, that would depend on your view of the Trinity. If Jesus was God in human form and God killed people in the Old Testament, then yes he has. He has also defended people.

Ah...but Jesus was the kinder, gentler god that preached peace and turning the other cheek. If we were discussing the God of the OT, you'd have a point.

We are. They are one and the same.

 

[kwc57]

Jesus clearly said God was his father.

The trinity is a creation of the church/religion.

If you don't have any knowledge of a subject, you probably should refrain from offering opinions. Just sayin'.

 

[Political Junky]

Someone trying to murder another person. What, you think he would just be passive?

Well...yes, he would. But that is besides the point.

uh huh

Remember that turn the other cheek thing?

 

[kwc57]

Well...yes, he would. But that is besides the point.

uh huh

Remember that turn the other cheek thing?

Indeed I do.........and I actually understand the lesson of the teaching. Do you think it means to stand idly by and watch someone be murdered?

 

[Samson]

uh huh

Remember that turn the other cheek thing?

Indeed I do.........and I actually understand the lesson of the teaching. Do you think it means to stand idly by and watch someone be murdered?

I thought it had something to do with spanking.

 

[Father Time]

Meh it could happen

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[Missourian]

Remember that turn the other cheek thing?

Ah...but Jesus was the kinder, gentler god that preached peace and turning the other cheek. If we were discussing the God of the OT, you'd have a point.

oh puleeze... seriously?

whatever happened to turn the other cheek?

selective much?

I don't think that means what you think it means.

In John 18:10 Peter clearly not only carries a sword while in the company of Jesus, but when the High Priests come to arrest Jesus, Peter unsheathes the sword and defends Jesus with it. He is rebuked not for defending Jesus, or causing harm, but for attempting to interfere with God's plan.

 

[elvis]

You're supposed to turn the other cheek so the aggressor can back-hand you easier.

 

[Ravi]

Well, that would depend on your view of the Trinity. If Jesus was God in human form and God killed people in the Old Testament, then yes he has. He has also defended people.

Ah...but Jesus was the kinder, gentler god that preached peace and turning the other cheek. If we were discussing the God of the OT, you'd have a point.

We are. They are one and the same.

The same and yet with a personality change. If you have an example of Jesus smiting bad guys anytime during his lifetime or since please post it.

 

[kwc57]

Ah...but Jesus was the kinder, gentler god that preached peace and turning the other cheek. If we were discussing the God of the OT, you'd have a point.

We are. They are one and the same.

The same and yet with a personality change. If you have an example of Jesus smiting bad guys anytime during his lifetime or since please post it.

Already did, weren't you paying attention?

smite (smt)
v. smote (smt), smit·ten (smtn) or smote, smit·ing, smites
v.tr.
1.
a. To inflict a heavy blow on, with or as if with the hand, a tool, or a weapon.
b. To drive or strike (a weapon, for example) forcefully onto or into something else.
2. To attack, damage, or destroy by or as if by blows.
3.
a. To afflict: The population was smitten by the plague.
b. To afflict retributively; chasten or chastise.
4. To affect sharply with great feeling: He was smitten by deep remorse.
v.intr.
To deal a blow with or as if with the hand or a hand-held weapon.

John 2:13 When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father’s house into a market!”