*God & Death: Who's Power Is It: Satan's?

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,



1. I usually don't go and get scripture, but you've been so compelling lately, I decided to oblidge.


Two Demon-Possessed Men Healed
Mathew 8:


28 When He had come to the other side, to the country of the Gergesenes,[c] there met Him two demon-possessed men, coming out of the tombs, exceedingly fierce, so that no one could pass that way. 29 And suddenly they cried out, saying, “What have we to do with You, Jesus, You Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?”
30 Now a good way off from them there was a herd of many swine feeding. 31 So the demons begged Him, saying, “If You cast us out, permit us to go away[d] into the herd of swine.”
32 And He said to them, “Go.” So when they had come out, they went into the herd of swine. And suddenly the whole herd of swine ran violently down the steep place into the sea, and perished in the water.
33 Then those who kept them fled; and they went away into the city and told everything, including what had happened to the demon-possessed men. 34 And behold, the whole city came out to meet Jesus. And when they saw Him, they begged Him to depart from their region.




2. It doesn't actually say they were Jews who were healed, but tradtion is they were, being in Israel at the Sea of Galille, which I have been where this happened too, its on the east side of the Sea and has many tombs.




The Compassion of Jesus
Mathew 9:

35 Then Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.[e] 36 But when He saw the multitudes, He was moved with compassion for them, because they were weary[f] and scattered, like sheep having no shepherd. 37 Then He said to His disciples, “The harvest truly is plentiful, but the laborers are few. 38 Therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest.”



3. Here you see where he preached.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[ABikerSailor]

Sorry bout that,



1. I usually don't go and get scripture, but you've been so compelling lately, I decided to oblidge.


Two Demon-Possessed Men Healed
Mathew 8:


28 When He had come to the other side, to the country of the Gergesenes,[c] there met Him two demon-possessed men, coming out of the tombs, exceedingly fierce, so that no one could pass that way. 29 And suddenly they cried out, saying, “What have we to do with You, Jesus, You Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?”
30 Now a good way off from them there was a herd of many swine feeding. 31 So the demons begged Him, saying, “If You cast us out, permit us to go away[d] into the herd of swine.”
32 And He said to them, “Go.” So when they had come out, they went into the herd of swine. And suddenly the whole herd of swine ran violently down the steep place into the sea, and perished in the water.
33 Then those who kept them fled; and they went away into the city and told everything, including what had happened to the demon-possessed men. 34 And behold, the whole city came out to meet Jesus. And when they saw Him, they begged Him to depart from their region.




2. It doesn't actually say they were Jews who were healed, but tradtion is they were, being in Israel at the Sea of Galille, which I have been where this happened too, its on the east side of the Sea and has many tombs.




The Compassion of Jesus
Mathew 9:

35 Then Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.[e] 36 But when He saw the multitudes, He was moved with compassion for them, because they were weary[f] and scattered, like sheep having no shepherd. 37 Then He said to His disciples, “The harvest truly is plentiful, but the laborers are few. 38 Therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest.”



3. Here you see where he preached.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

Interesting........in 2, you state that there was no actual proof that it was a Gentile city, yet here's what Wikipedia has to say..........

Gergesa, (also Gergasa or the Country of the Gergesenes) is a place on the eastern side of the Sea of Galilee that is described in the New Testament Gospels of Mark and Luke. According to these books, in Gergasa Jesus drove Legion out of a wild man and into a herd of pigs.

Gergesenes means "those who come from pilgrimage or fight."[1]

Many New Testament manuscripts refer to the "Country of the Gadarenes" or "Gerasenes" rather than the Gergesenes. Both Gerasa and Gadara were cities to the east of the Sea of Galilee. They were both Gentile cities filled with citizens who were culturally more Greek than Semitic; this would account for the pigs in the biblical account. Gerasa and Gadara are accounted for in historical accounts (by writers such as Pliny the Elder and Josephus) and by archaeological research. Today they are the modern towns of Jerash and Umm Qais.

Gergesa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now, it states quite clearly that they were both Gentile cities (not Jewish) that were more Greek than Semitic.

No, it's not the Bible that states that, it's your own twisted beliefs that make it thus. I kinda pity you in a small way, because obviously you're more interested in keeping your own faith than you are in finding out what really happened.

By the way, it's rumored by archaeologists and scholars that those people were actually refugees from a volcano in Greece.

What exactly is your faith again?

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,


1. The Jews didn't herd pigs, unclean and all, Torah forbid it, they would get stoned, and the city was a gentile city, as I said before, and I've been to it too, its on the east side of The Sea of Galilee, a short distance from the mountian that lines the shore there, I don't know how you're reading what I'm writing, I said those who were healed, the man who had Legion in him was a Jew, Jesus healed a Jew, and the Legions went into the pigs and ran down into the sea and drowned themselves. You pity me? I find that amusing, and not just a little, but I will reframe from expressing my laughter.
2. It is rumored that the Jews of that time, claimed all of the Sea of Galilee area, including the mountains all around it.
3. I ofcourse am Roman Catholic.
4. Read this again,.......Mathew 9:33 Then those who kept them fled; and they went away into the city and told everything, including what had happened to the demon-possessed men. 34 And behold, the whole city came out to meet Jesus. And when they saw Him, they begged Him to depart from their region.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,


1. We get more info in Luke: 8


A Demon-Possessed Man Healed

26 Then they sailed to the country of the Gadarenes,[c] which is opposite Galilee. 27 And when He stepped out on the land, there met Him a certain man from the city who had demons for a long time. And he wore no clothes,[d] nor did he live in a house but in the tombs. 28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, fell down before Him, and with a loud voice said, “What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg You, do not torment me!” 29 For He had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For it had often seized him, and he was kept under guard, bound with chains and shackles; and he broke the bonds and was driven by the demon into the wilderness.
30 Jesus asked him, saying, “What is your name?”
And he said, “Legion,” because many demons had entered him. 31 And they begged Him that He would not command them to go out into the abyss.
32 Now a herd of many swine was feeding there on the mountain. So they begged Him that He would permit them to enter them. And He permitted them. 33 Then the demons went out of the man and entered the swine, and the herd ran violently down the steep place into the lake and drowned.
34 When those who fed them saw what had happened, they fled and told it in the city and in the country. 35 Then they went out to see what had happened, and came to Jesus, and found the man from whom the demons had departed, sitting at the feet of Jesus, clothed and in his right mind. And they were afraid. 36 They also who had seen it told them by what means he who had been demon-possessed was healed. 37 Then the whole multitude of the surrounding region of the Gadarenes[e] asked Him to depart from them, for they were seized with great fear. And He got into the boat and returned.
38 Now the man from whom the demons had departed begged Him that he might be with Him. But Jesus sent him away, saying, 39 “Return to your own house, and tell what great things God has done for you.” And he went his way and proclaimed throughout the whole city what great things Jesus had done for him.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,


1. Then there's Mark: 5


A Demon-Possessed Man Healed
1 Then they came to the other side of the sea, to the country of the Gadarenes.[a] 2 And when He had come out of the boat, immediately there met Him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, 3 who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no one could bind him, not even with chains, 4 because he had often been bound with shackles and chains. And the chains had been pulled apart by him, and the shackles broken in pieces; neither could anyone tame him. 5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains and in the tombs, crying out and cutting himself with stones.
6 When he saw Jesus from afar, he ran and worshiped Him. 7 And he cried out with a loud voice and said, “What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I implore You by God that You do not torment me.”
8 For He said to him, “Come out of the man, unclean spirit!” 9 Then He asked him, “What is your name?”
And he answered, saying, “My name is Legion; for we are many.” 10 Also he begged Him earnestly that He would not send them out of the country.
11 Now a large herd of swine was feeding there near the mountains. 12 So all the demons begged Him, saying, “Send us to the swine, that we may enter them.” 13 And at once Jesus[c] gave them permission. Then the unclean spirits went out and entered the swine (there were about two thousand); and the herd ran violently down the steep place into the sea, and drowned in the sea.
14 So those who fed the swine fled, and they told it in the city and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that had happened. 15 Then they came to Jesus, and saw the one who had been demon-possessed and had the legion, sitting and clothed and in his right mind. And they were afraid. 16 And those who saw it told them how it happened to him who had been demon-possessed, and about the swine. 17 Then they began to plead with Him to depart from their region.
18 And when He got into the boat, he who had been demon-possessed begged Him that he might be with Him. 19 However, Jesus did not permit him, but said to him, “Go home to your friends, and tell them what great things the Lord has done for you, and how He has had compassion on you.” 20 And he departed and began to proclaim in Decapolis all that Jesus had done for him; and all marveled.


2. The story is pretty much the same, Jesus crossed the Sea of Galilee, to the east side, and meets a demon possessed man, heals him, the demons go into the pigs, then the keepers goes and tells it to the gentiles, in a city not to far away, and the gentiles of that city come and meet Jesus and reject Jesus flat out.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[ABikerSailor]

Again.......it was a Gentile city, and Jews did not mix much with them.

Try again ya fuzzy idiot.

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,



1. I guess we're done here, we agree, it was a gentile city.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[ABikerSailor]

You stated it was a Jewish man the demons were driven out of. I told you that person was a Gentile.

Thanks for admitting I'm right.

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,


1. Ok man, no problem.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas