Glock

[Ninja]

Maybe Kagom and the other Californians can have soe tape recordings made and scare away the bad guys.

And some origami handguns

Thanks, snowman.
I've seen that and picked up a lot of good information at that site in the past.
Amazing the gun would still function after all that abuse.

No problem. In addition to Glocks I love the Springfield XD, but I'm really a 1911 guy at heart.

What did you end up going with? Or, which way are you leaning?

Great. I have to wait another 3 years to own a gun. Oh well.

Then you should get some rifles to help pass the time (You're already 18 right?)

 

[Mr. P]

No problem. In addition to Glocks I love the Springfield XD, but I'm really a 1911 guy at heart.

What did you end up going with? Or, which way are you leaning?

Leaning toward the Glock 19. A 9mm is effective and the ammo is cheaper for practice. I have a S&W Model 19-4 .357 but shooting it a lot is expensive.

 

[glockmail]

Leaning toward the Glock 19. A 9mm is effective and the ammo is cheaper for practice. I have a S&W Model 19-4 .357 but shooting it a lot is expensive.

I'd recomend looking carefully at the G23, same frame size but in 0.40 S&W. Check the local prices- the ammo is not much more than 9mm, but was designed in 1999 by Smith and Wesson specifically for its stopping power.

 

[Ninja]

I'm not sure where you guys live but here in KKKalifornia .40 S&W runs about $2 more per box of 50 if you're comparing within the same brand.

Usually I buy the Remington UMC 250 round value packs at Wally World if I'm just going out plinking. On the Cheaper Then Dirt website there's a pretty steep price differential: 9mm $46/250 rounds, 40S&W $58/250 rounds.

Glockmail, I'm with you 100% on the effectiveness of .40 S&W as a personal protection round. But for me the difference in price isn't that small.

Anyway, whether Mr. P goes with the G19 of the G23 he'll have an excellent weapon. I'm partial to the G17, but I have fairly large hands.

 

[glockmail]

I'm not sure where you guys live but here in KKKalifornia .40 S&W runs about $2 more per box of 50 if you're comparing within the same brand.

Usually I buy the Remington UMC 250 round value packs at Wally World if I'm just going out plinking. On the Cheaper Then Dirt website there's a pretty steep price differential: 9mm $46/250 rounds, 40S&W $58/250 rounds.

Glockmail, I'm with you 100% on the effectiveness of .40 S&W as a personal protection round. But for me the difference in price isn't that small.

Anyway, whether Mr. P goes with the G19 of the G23 he'll have an excellent weapon. I'm partial to the G17, but I have fairly large hands.

Honestly I have not checked out the price difference, only that the FMJ rounds I buy at the range are fairly cheap, but those are only for making holes in paper and getting the feel of the weapon back into my hand. I keep hollow points behind plastic tipped pre-frags in my magazine when I carry, and neither of those are cheap in any caliber. But since I haven't had to use any of them, on an annualized basis they are very cheap.

Is the 17 a large frame? I have a 27, which in my big hand is a two finger job.

 

[Ninja]

Yes, the G17 is the full-size 9mm and the G22 is the full-size .40 S&W.

Does the 27 have the same size frame as the 26? If so, two finger job for me too.

 

[glockmail]

Yes. I the 26 and 27 are the same gun, different chambers.

 

[Kagom]

Then you should get some rifles to help pass the time (You're already 18 right?)

Eh, they're usually more expensive. But I'm 19, therefore it's actually 2 years

 

[Mr. P]

So how are your the trigger pulls, glockmail/snowman?

I dry fired a G19 and the pull was 'clicky' or 'ratchety'. I understand this is common with glock and the .25 cent fix takes care of it. Alittle filing on the trigger bar from what I remember reading smooths it out.

 

[glockmail]

So how are your the trigger pulls, glockmail/snowman?

I dry fired a G19 and the pull was 'clicky' or 'ratchety'. I understand this is common with glock and the .25 cent fix takes care of it. Alittle filing on the trigger bar from what I remember reading smooths it out.

I had that problem once, but fixed it with a drop of oil in what I expect is that same mechanism. It is a mass produced piece, after all.

 

[Annie]

Eh, they're usually more expensive. But I'm 19, therefore it's actually 2 years

Baby. Maybe that's what brings out my maternal instincts?

 

[Mr. P]

I had that problem once, but fixed it with a drop of oil in what I expect is that same mechanism. It is a mass produced piece, after all.

Yup, stamped I think.

 

[glockmail]

Yup, stamped I think.

Sure. As few castings/ machinings as possible, hardened steels where needed, plastic where not. That's the name of the game with modern manufacturing. It all starts with the design.

 

[Ninja]

Eh, they're usually more expensive. But I'm 19, therefore it's actually 2 years

Ruger 10/22 dude. The funnest little rifle there ever was.... $200

Great first firearm.

So how are your the trigger pulls, glockmail/snowman?

I dry fired a G19 and the pull was 'clicky' or 'ratchety'. I understand this is common with glock and the .25 cent fix takes care of it. Alittle filing on the trigger bar from what I remember reading smooths it out.

The overtravel/reset takes a bit of getting used to (very noticeable if you fire it side by side with a 1911) but I personally don't find it to be unbearable. As Glockmail said, a few drops of oil should do the trick. If you end up deciding that you'd like to modify the trigger, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have a gunsmith do it unless you've completely disassembled a Glock frame before and have prior gunsmithing experience.

 

[glockmail]

Ruger 10/22 dude. The funnest little rifle there ever was.... $200

Great first firearm.
.....

Yes, and in general, rifles are cheaper than pistols, probably due to the anti-gunners and lawsuits.

 

[Mr. P]

Ruger 10/22 dude. The funnest little rifle there ever was.... $200

Great first firearm.



The overtravel/reset takes a bit of getting used to (very noticeable if you fire it side by side with a 1911) but I personally don't find it to be unbearable. As Glockmail said, a few drops of oil should do the trick. If you end up deciding that you'd like to modify the trigger, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have a gunsmith do it unless you've completely disassembled a Glock frame before and have prior gunsmithing experience.

No gunsmith, that's why it's called the .25 cent fix.

Read about how-to. Simple really.

 

[glockmail]

No gunsmith, that's why it's called the .25 cent fix.

Read about how-to. Simple really.

I'd be up for it. The wost that can happen is that you mess up ione 25 cent part, and have a gunsmith replace it.

But then again, I use old milk jugs and a houshold iron to repair gouges in my skis. And strings and oak blocks to align the wheels on my car.

 

[Ninja]

Sorry guys, I'm not trying to be a stick in the mud.

I've read about the $0.25 trigger job and was going to do one but was worried that it might void the warranty (I get paranoid about my guns).

I'm just playing the Devil's advocate

 

[Gunny]

Sorry guys, I'm not trying to be a stick in the mud.

I've read about the $0.25 trigger job and was going to do one but was worried that it might void the warranty (I get paranoid about my guns).

I'm just playing the Devil's advocate

I modify my own M1911A1's, a FAR superior weapon to a Glock, IMO, and I will agree with snowman .... if you don't have any education/experience as a gunsmith, let a gunsmith do it. It's little enough piece of mind for the price.

 

[Mr. P]

The way I see it, and always have, is, if you have the tools half a brain the library and now the net, there’s nothing you can’t do repair wise for the most part. I seldom pay anyone for a repair of any kind.

I’ll admit though getting older, I’m growing tired of fixing stuff.