GlobalClimateWarmerCoolering Appears to have Stalled.

[Oddball]

Climatologists Baffled by Global Warming Time-Out

At least the weather in Copenhagen is likely to be cooperating. The Danish Meteorological Institute predicts that temperatures in December, when the city will host the United Nations Climate Change Conference, will be one degree above the long-term average.

Otherwise, however, not much is happening with global warming at the moment. The Earth's average temperatures have stopped climbing since the beginning of the millennium, and it even looks as though global warming could come to a standstill this year.

Ironically, climate change appears to have stalled in the run-up to the upcoming world summit in the Danish capital, where thousands of politicians, bureaucrats, scientists, business leaders and environmental activists plan to negotiate a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions. Billions of euros are at stake in the negotiations.

Reached a Plateau

The planet's temperature curve rose sharply for almost 30 years, as global temperatures increased by an average of 0.7 degrees Celsius (1.25 degrees Fahrenheit) from the 1970s to the late 1990s. "At present, however, the warming is taking a break," confirms meteorologist Mojib Latif of the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences in the northern German city of Kiel. Latif, one of Germany's best-known climatologists, says that the temperature curve has reached a plateau. "There can be no argument about that," he says. "We have to face that fact."

Stagnating Temperatures: Climatologists Baffled by Global Warming Time-Out - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

Yeah, they're "baffled" alright....Probably because they haven't been able to dazzle anyone but the most gullible.

 

[mdn2000]

In Ontario Canada this summer, Bayfield specifically, just off the coast of Lake Huron my uncle owns a farm. Not a commercial farm. He says it was so cold all summer his garden did not produce many things, lousy crop of pumpkins, no cucumbers, lousy crop of tomato. It takse a whole summer of cold to ruin an entire garden of food.

Listening to a man that grows food is a better source than any link on the internet

 

[Jay Canuck]

Oh goody! - more science being interpreted by scientists for us on the board.

 

[Oddball]

Didn't read the linked piece in the OP that covered the research of a scientist, did you?

Didn't think so.

 

[Jay Canuck]

I did read it Dud.....and then I read your clever sumation of the op piece.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Oh goody! - more science being interpreted by scientists for us on the board.

Yes. We know not to listen to any un-ordained preachers of any religion.

 

[Oddball]

Oh goody! - more science being interpreted by scientists for us on the board.

Yes. We know not to listen to any un-ordained preachers of any religion.

Hell, we're not even supposed to listen to any environmental "Protestants".

 

[Jay Canuck]

Oh goody! - more science being interpreted by scientists for us on the board.

Yes. We know not to listen to any un-ordained preachers of any religion.

do you mean like "scientists" who get paid by oil companies for favorable findings?

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Oh goody! - more science being interpreted by scientists for us on the board.

Yes. We know not to listen to any un-ordained preachers of any religion.

do you mean like "scientists" who get paid by oil companies for favorable findings?

Or, ones who get paid massively by the government and green lobby for same?

It's not science. Science starts with, "I do not know" and this started with, "We DO know and now let's try to baffle with bullshit because we know we cannot dazzle with brilliance."

 

[Midnight Marauder]

who get paid by oil companies

This is how stupid you sycophants are. "Evil Oil" is all up in the middle of this scam, and has been for decades. They stand to make billions more off this crap than they would have without it.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Damn that Mother Nature doing what she wants rather than accommodating the environmental theorists. God damn her!

 

[Jay Canuck]

well why don't we take a look at what over 90% of the worlds credible scientists are saying shall we?

 

[mdn2000]

Oh goody! - more science being interpreted by scientists for us on the board.

Yes. We know not to listen to any un-ordained preachers of any religion.

do you mean like "scientists" who get paid by oil companies for favorable findings?

Yep, this post is fact, seriously, no joking, the oil companies are paying scientist to promote green energy.

The Oil Companies get to supply the energy, the basic materials, all the chemicals, the fossil fuel plants to build green energy sources.

 

[Jay Canuck]

Scientific opinion on climate change and global warming

SCIENTIFIC SUPPORT FOR HUMAN-CAUSED CLIMATE CHANGE
Environmental groups have warned of the contribution to climate change from human activities for decades. It has taken the scientific community many years to begin making definitive statements about the accuracy of these claims. It should be noted that while the overwhelming majority of scientists now accept that human activities are a major cause of global warming, there is still a small number of scientists who disagree with these conclusions.



evidence supporting global warming & human causes
The fact that carbon dioxide absorbs and emits IR radiation has been known for over a century. Gas bubbles trapped in ice cores give us a detailed record of atmospheric chemistry and temperature back more than four hundred thousand years, with the temperature record confirmed by other geologic evidence. This record tells us that carbon dioxide and temperature rise and fall tightly together. The recent rise in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases is greater than any in hundreds of thousands of years and this is human-caused.


The historical temperature record shows a rise of 0.4–0.8 °C over the last 100 years, and the current warmth is unusual in the past 1000 years. Climate change attribution studies using both models and observations find that the warming of the last 50 years is likely caused by human activity. Natural variability (including solar variation) alone cannot explain the recent change. Climate models can reproduce the observed trend only when greenhouse gas forcing is included.


There is a scientific consensus behind all of the above, reflected in official statements by professional associations related to climate science. Humankind is performing a great geophysical experiment and if it turns out badly — however that is defined — we cannot undo it. We cannot even abruptly turn it off. Too many of the things we are doing now have long-term ramifications for centuries into the future.


Climate models predict more warming, and other climate effects such as sea level rise, more frequent and severe storms, drought and heat waves in the future.

 

[Oddball]

well why don't we take a look at what over 90% of the worlds credible scientists are saying shall we?

You have shown zero concrete proof to back up that 90% lie. Time to stop telling it.

 

[Jay Canuck]

Let's see... who am I going to take seriously on this subject? -

A. some poster on a message board.
B. over 90% of the worlds credible scientists

it's a tough choice folks.... but I think I'm going with choice B.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

well why don't we take a look at what over 90% of the worlds credible scientists are saying shall we?

Yeah, they're only "credible" if they fall in line. The ones who aren't afraid to speak out? Who haven't had their careers, their reputations, their very lives threatened? The ones who are no longer being funded to lie?

These guys and gals? And thousands of others you never hear about?

“I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.” - Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.

“Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical.” - Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”

"Warming fears are the worst scientific scandal in history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist.

“The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to others. It doesn’t have open minds… I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists,” - Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet.

“The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC are incorrect because they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.” - Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico

“It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming.” - U.S Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA.

“Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have little impact, as water vapour and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the worldwide scene and always will.” – . Geoffrey G. Duffy, a professor in the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland, NZ.

“After reading [UN IPCC chairman] Pachauri's asinine comment comparing skeptics to Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet.” - Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society's Probability and Statistics Committee and is an Associate Editor of Monthly Weather Review.

“For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" - Geologist Dr. David Gee the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden.

“Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp…Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact.” - Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee.

“Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from promoting warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined.” - Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh.

“Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense…The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning.” - Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles.

“CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another….Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so…Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.” - Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.

“The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds.” - Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata.

Can you research these and get back to us on their credibility?

 

[Oddball]

who get paid by oil companies

This is how stupid you sycophants are. "Evil Oil" is all up in the middle of this scam, and has been for decades. They stand to make billions more off this crap than they would have without it.

Golly...I wonder how many of those various and eeeeeevil petrochemicals would be used in manufacturing, transporting, erecting and maintaining all them goofy "green energy" boondoggles?

 

[Screaming Eagle]

It's common knowledge that the world has gotten cooler since 1998, it isn't really even a debatable point.

 

[Jay Canuck]

well why don't we take a look at what over 90% of the worlds credible scientists are saying shall we?

Yeah, they're only "credible" if they fall in line. The ones who aren't afraid to speak out? Who haven't had their careers, their reputations, their very lives threatened? The ones who are no longer being funded to lie?

These guys and gals? And thousands of others you never hear about?

“I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.” - Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.

“Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical.” - Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”

"Warming fears are the worst scientific scandal in history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist.

“The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to others. It doesn’t have open minds… I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists,” - Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet.

“The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC are incorrect because they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.” - Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico

“It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming.” - U.S Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA.

“Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have little impact, as water vapour and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the worldwide scene and always will.” – . Geoffrey G. Duffy, a professor in the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland, NZ.

“After reading [UN IPCC chairman] Pachauri's asinine comment comparing skeptics to Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet.” - Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society's Probability and Statistics Committee and is an Associate Editor of Monthly Weather Review.

“For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" - Geologist Dr. David Gee the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden.

“Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp…Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact.” - Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee.

“Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from promoting warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined.” - Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh.

“Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense…The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning.” - Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles.

“CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another….Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so…Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.” - Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.

“The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds.” - Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata.

Can you research these and get back to us on their credibility?

no doubt they are credible in the sense that they are educated enough to have an opinion on the subject but I am quite sure that the money that talks has gathered the 5 to 8 % and compiled their opinions as shown here.... and for the other 90%+? - I guess they are just full of shit right?