Global warming: red-faced climatologist issues grovelling apology

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    Global warming: red-faced climatologist issues grovelling apology – Telegraph Blogs

    Global warming: red-faced climatologist issues grovelling apology

    Not.

    I've just been listening to BBC Radio 4's More Or Less. It was the episode announcing that the Global Warming Policy Foundation's scientific adviser Dr David Whitehouse had won a £100 bet made on the programme four years ago with climatologist Dr James Annan. Annan predicted temperatures would rise in that period; Whitehouse predicted they wouldn't. Annan lost.

    But you'd never guess it from his high-handed tone when he was asked why he'd lost. "Just bad luck," Annan explained, going on to insist (contradicting most available real-world data, it must be said) that the trend for global warming remained "robustly positive." He then agreed to another four-year bet. If it went against him a second time would he change his mind, Annan was asked. At first he appeared to agree that it would but then he started backtracking, insisting that it wouldn't change in the slightest his view that carbon dioxide causes global warming….

    This "Even though I was wrong I'm still right" syndrome afflicts a lot of people in the climate alarmist community. But then, you can hardly blame them for their wilful self-delusion and glib complacency for they seem to operate in a bubble in which there are no punishments for failure.

    The classic example is Paul Ehrlich who lost a famous bet on "scarce resources" with the late economist Julian Simon (aka the "Doomslayer" because he was so good at confounding environmentalists' hysterical scaremongering using actual scientific data as opposed to computer projections).

    The interesting part, as I recall in Watermelons, is what happened next:

    While Ehrlich continued to be feted as an environmental seer (in 1990, the year he lost the bet, he won a MacArthur Foundation "genius award"), Simon was invariably dismissed during his lifetime as a right-wing crank.

    As a profile in Wired put it: "There seemed to be a bizarre reverse-Cassandra effect operating in the universe: whereas the mythical Cassandra spoke the awful truth and was not believed, these days "experts" spoke awful falsehoods, and they were believed. Repeatedly being wrong actually seemed to be an advantage, conferring some sort of puzzling magic glow upon the speaker."

    Digging that puzzling magic glow, Dr Annan?
     
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    God almighty, Pattycake, you are about one stupid ass.

    We have had a series of strong La Ninas, and a couple of moderate El Ninos since 1998. Yet 2010 matched 1998 for heat, for most of the decade from 2002 to present, the running average has been above any high point previous to 1998 on the satellite record.

    UAH global Temperature for December – no change | Watts Up With That?

    We are seeing the consequences of the warming in the extreme weather worldwide. The two biggest re-insurance companies in the world, Swiss Re and Munich Re, state that there has been a five fold increase in extreme weather events since 1970.

    Weathering climate change | Swiss Re - Leading Global Reinsurer

    Munich Re - Two months to Cancún climate summit / Large number of weather extremes as strong indication of climate change

    Watch what happens on the next El Nino. Consider that we are in the second strong La Nina in a row, yet this winter has been very atypical for a La Nina. We are in for some very interesting times, and all your flap yap is not going to change that one whit.
     
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    I hear spring was out and about in parts of the midwest with snow lacking thus far this winter. People are planting chard,kale and lettuce seeds knowing germination will happen sooner of later is the word.

    Hmmmmmm sounds like fun if rain would come.
     
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    Great now we just need the one experiment that can be replicated in any lab proving the contention.

    That experiment is located where?
     
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    Ah......more old time religion. NO THANKS.
     
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    Now you think you're smarter than 97% of scientists. What a moron. :cuckoo:
     
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    Nope, I just want proof, that you can not provide.
     
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    I know you and your moronic arguments too well. No matter what proof is presented you'll say that it's either skewed or not good enough. You're happier living in ignorance.
     

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