Global Warming or Just A Hot Summer?

[auditor0007]

I don't know the answer, but this should be of concern to all of us.

LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — Thousands of fish are dying in the Midwest as the hot, dry summer dries up rivers and causes water temperatures to climb in some spots to nearly 100 degrees.

About 40,000 shovelnose sturgeon were killed in Iowa last week as water temperatures reached 97 degrees. Nebraska fishery officials said they've seen thousands of dead sturgeon, catfish, carp, and other species in the Lower Platte River, including the endangered pallid sturgeon. And biologists in Illinois said the hot weather has killed tens of thousands of large- and smallmouth bass and channel catfish and is threatening the population of the greater redhorse fish, a state-endangered species.

So many fish died in one Illinois lake that the carcasses clogged an intake screen near a power plant, lowering water levels to the point that the station had to shut down one of its generators.

"It's something I've never seen in my career, and I've been here for more than 17 years," said Mark Flammang, a fisheries biologist with the Iowa Department of Natural Resources. "I think what we're mainly dealing with here are the extremely low flows and this unparalleled heat."

Midwest Heat Wave 2012: Thousands Of Fish Die In Hot Weather

 

[Old Rocks]

And last year the Missouri and Mississippi were at flood stage March through September.

Wider and wilder swings with an overall warming,

 

[ScienceRocks]

Increasing the temperature increases the likely hood for a "hotter" or abnormally summer. Increases the odds of such events...

Of course this would be more likely in the mid evil warm period(1100 ad) then the little ice age(1700). So you get the idea.

 

[Politico]

It's summer.

 

[auditor0007]

It's summer.

It's one of the hottest on record in the US, maybe the hottest since they started keeping records.

64 Okla. temperature records fall or tied in July - Businessweek

 

[Old Rocks]

HAMweather Climate Center - Record Events for The Past Week - Continental US View

 

[Truthseeker420]

Should I buy property in Alaska?

 

[eflatminor]

I don't know the answer

True.

Hey, England is having the coolest summer in more than a decade. Time to panic?

 

[Old Rocks]

Just what makes you think that the warming trend driving the present climate change should create warming everywhere at the same time?

The prediction is for wider and wilder weather swings, with an overall warming trend. and that is exactly what we have been seeing.

 

[waltky]

Been so hot here, Uncle Ferd tellin' Granny to wait till the cool of the evenin' to cut the grass so's she don't get overheated...

Ouch! July in US was hottest ever in history books
8 Aug.`12 WASHINGTON (AP) — This probably comes as no surprise: Federal scientists say July was the hottest month ever recorded in the Lower 48 states, breaking a record set during the Dust Bowl of the 1930s.

And even less a surprise: The U.S. this year keeps setting records for weather extremes, based on the precise calculations that include drought, heavy rainfall, unusual temperatures, and storms. The average temperature last month was 77.6 degrees. That breaks the old record from July 1936 by 0.2 degree, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Records go back to 1895. "It's a pretty significant increase over the last record," said climate scientist Jake Crouch of NOAA's National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. In the past, skeptics of global warming have pointed to the Dust Bowl to argue that recent heat isn't unprecedented. But Crouch said this shows that the current year "is out and beyond those Dust Bowl years. We're rivaling and beating them consistently from month to month."

Three of the nation's five hottest months on record have been recent Julys: This year, 2011 and 2006. Julys in 1936 and 1934 round out the top five. Last month also was 3.3 degrees warmer than the 20th century average for July. Thirty-two states had months that were among their 10 warmest Julys, but only one, Virginia, had the hottest July on record. Crouch said that's a bit unusual, but that it shows the breadth of the heat and associated drought. For example in 2011, the heat seemed to be centered mostly in Oklahoma and Texas. But this summer "the epicenters of the heat kind of migrated around. It kind of got everybody in the action this month," Crouch said. The first seven months of 2012 were the warmest on record for the nation. And August 2011 through July this year was the warmest 12-month period on record, just beating out the July 2011-June 2012 time period.

But it's not just the heat that's noteworthy. NOAA has a measurement called the U.S. Climate Extreme Index which dates to 1900 and follows several indicators of unusually high and low temperatures, severe drought, downpours, and tropical storms and hurricanes. NOAA calculates the index as a percentage, which mostly reflects how much of the nation experience extremes. In July, the index was 37 percent, a record that beat the old mark for July last year. The average is 20 percent. For the first seven months of the year, the extreme index was 46 percent, beating the old record from 1934. This year's extreme index was heavily driven by high temperatures both day and night, which is unusual, Crouch said. "This would not have happened in the absence of human-caused climate change," said Pennsylvania State University climate scientist Michael Mann.

Crouch and Kevin Trenberth, climate analysis chief of the National Center for Atmospheric Research, said what's happening is a double whammy of weather and climate change. They point to long-term higher night temperatures from global warming and the short-term effect of localized heat and drought that spike daytime temperatures. Drought is a major player because in the summer "if it is wet, it tends to be cool, while if it is dry, it tends to be hot," Trenberth said. So the record in July isn't such a big deal, Trenberth said. "But the fact that the first seven months of the year are the hottest on record is much more impressive from a climate standpoint, and highlights the fact that there is more than just natural variability playing a role: Global warming from human activities has reared its head in a way that can only be a major warning for the future."

More Ouch! July in US was hottest ever in history books - Yahoo! News

 

[Zoom]

It's summer.

It's one of the hottest on record in the US, maybe the hottest since they started keeping records.

64 Okla. temperature records fall or tied in July - Businessweek

I wonder what it would take for a non believer of global warming to actually say, yup, its global warming.

They usually come back with ...hey its summer, its hot. what do you expect. Duh.


Damn these people are unbelievable.

 

[ScienceRocks]

It's summer.

It's one of the hottest on record in the US, maybe the hottest since they started keeping records.

64 Okla. temperature records fall or tied in July - Businessweek

I wonder what it would take for a non believer of global warming to actually say, yup, its global warming.

They usually come back with ...hey its summer, its hot. what do you expect. Duh.


Damn these people are unbelievable.

A clear Warming trend at the global level(.02/year) and within the tropics(.1-.15c). As of right now if it's warming at all 90% of that's within the arctic. This of course could be explained by the feed back of the ice sheets. Look at the UK data set that doesn't include the poles and then compare that to the ones that do. BIG DIFFERENCE. That one shows NO warming since 1998.

Next there's a debate going on between believers and skeptics about where has the energy gone? Believers believe into the depth of the oceans, while the skeptics believe the increase in clouds have cause the energy to be reflected. Physics of co2 as we understand it of course predict the kind of warming the models show, but maybe the models don't competely understand the system?

You see there's a very real debate going on within the scientific community. People like Hansen and Andrew "dozer" believe this warming is going to pop up to the upper layers of the ocean and warm our planet within jots.

We will see of course...


I'd say if a clear warming trend appeared over the entire globe over about 5-10 years. Well, I might become a believer.

 

[Douger]

Should I buy property in Alaska?

No. Buy property within the tropic of cancer.

 

[skookerasbil]

Google "1936 Summer" dummies.............


If the k00ks could erase weather history from the internet, they would in a heartbeat!!!

 

[waltky]

Granny says, "Dat's right - gonna be hot next summer too...

UN Report: Record Heat in 2012
November 28, 2012 — 2012 is on its way to being one of the hottest years on record, according to the United Nations. The World Meteorological Organization says climate change is taking place "before our eyes" with worldwide extreme weather conditions.

The U.N. weather agency says that despite the cooling effect of La Nina in the Pacific Ocean in early 2012, the period from January to October was the ninth warmest since records began in 1850. And every year from 2001 through to 2011 has been among the warmest on record, the agency said. World Meteorological Organization Secretary-General Michel Jarraud said one of the agency's major concerns is the melting of Arctic sea ice. "The melting of the ice was much bigger than in previous years, it is the record melting of the Arctic ice," said Jarraud.

A WMO report says nearly 12 million square kilometers of Arctic ice melted between March and September 2012. It said satellite images from September showed the Arctic sea ice covering 18 percent less than the previous record low five years ago. "So definitely the message here is that the trend is not only continuing, but accelerating with respect to the melting of the Arctic ice and this is linked to the change in the global temperature," said Jarraud.

Tuesday, the German environment group Germanwatch published its Global Climate Risk Index, analyzing how countries are affected by extreme weather events like storms, heat waves and drought. It said that in 2011, Thailand, Cambodia, Pakistan, El Salvador and the Philippines suffered the most from the impact of extreme weather conditions.

An Index author, Sven Harmeling, said it is clear that developing countries are hit the hardest, but the impacts are global. "If you look at the overall figures for the last 20 years, we have had more than 500,000 people that died, we have had, including events also in the developed countries, over $2.5 trillion of damages as a summary from extreme weather events," said Harmeling. The reports have been published as a U.N. Conference on Climate Change takes place in Doha, Qatar. The meeting, which lasts about two weeks, is aimed at forming an international agreement on curbing industrial emissions. It would replace the Kyoto Protocol, which is soon to expire. Delegates from nearly 200 countries are taking part.

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[bripat9643]

Just what makes you think that the warming trend driving the present climate change should create warming everywhere at the same time?

The prediction is for wider and wilder weather swings, with an overall warming trend. and that is exactly what we have been seeing.

Yeah, we know. A spell of hot weather means global warming. A spell of cold weather is just weather.

The AGW cultists are so predictable.

 

[Old Rocks]

Of the 20 warmest years on record, all have occured since 1987.

Climate change: The hottest years on record | The Economist