Global warming? No. Howabout Global ice age within the next 70 years

Discussion in 'Environment' started by DavidS, Apr 23, 2009.

  1. DavidS
    Offline

    DavidS Anti-Tea Party Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2008
    Messages:
    9,811
    Thanks Received:
    766
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    New York, NY
    Ratings:
    +767
    BBC NEWS | Science & Environment | 'Quiet Sun' baffling astronomers

    he Sun is the dimmest it has been for nearly a century.

    There are no sunspots, very few solar flares - and our nearest star is the quietest it has been for a very long time.
    The observations are baffling astronomers, who are due to study new pictures of the Sun, taken from space, at the UK National Astronomy Meeting.



    The Sun normally undergoes an 11-year cycle of activity. At its peak, it has a tumultuous boiling atmosphere that spits out flares and planet-sized chunks of super-hot gas. This is followed by a calmer period.


    Last year, it was expected that it would have been hotting up after a quiet spell. But instead it hit a 50-year low in solar wind pressure, a 55-year low in radio emissions, and a 100-year low in sunspot activity.
    According to Prof Louise Hara of University College London, it is unclear why this is happening or when the Sun is likely to become more active again.



    "There's no sign of us coming out of it yet," she told BBC News.
    "At the moment, there are scientific papers coming out suggesting that we'll be going into a normal period of activity soon.
    "Others are suggesting we'll be going into another minimum period - this is a big scientific debate at the moment."


    [​IMG] Sunspots could be seen by the Soho telescope in 2001 (l), but not this year (r)


    In the mid-17th Century, a quiet spell - known as the Maunder Minimum - lasted 70 years, and led to a "mini ice age".
     
  2. seaninomaha
    Offline

    seaninomaha Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2009
    Messages:
    13
    Thanks Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Ratings:
    +1
    You had the "Little Ice Age" which lasted from the 1300's to around 1850 going on at the same time as the occurance of the Maunder Minimum. There were also many occurances of sunspot minimums during the last 1000 years. I believe what will be the biggest difference from the 17th century and now is the amount of co2 and other greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere. The planet may be naturally moving towards the next Ice Age, but that will be lessened or maybe even negated by the major increases of greenhouse gas in the atmosphere. Only time will tell.
     
  3. Gurdari
    Offline

    Gurdari Egaliterra

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2007
    Messages:
    1,019
    Thanks Received:
    40
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    the West
    Ratings:
    +40
    We can figure human involvement will add variables to the climate equation, all those against taking action on pollution, etc. must assume our activities will make Earth better, not worse since it won't stay the same).

    Such optimism.
     
  4. Sinatra
    Offline

    Sinatra Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2009
    Messages:
    8,013
    Thanks Received:
    1,005
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings:
    +1,005

    Then thank God for that increased CO2!

    I am going to start up the X5 in the driver and just let it sit for about an hour. Maybe turn the A/C on full blast.

    All in the name of the environment you know...
     
  5. k2skier
    Offline

    k2skier Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Messages:
    713
    Thanks Received:
    48
    Trophy Points:
    51
    Ratings:
    +50
    ...for powder skiing in June, bring it on!
     
  6. DavidS
    Offline

    DavidS Anti-Tea Party Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2008
    Messages:
    9,811
    Thanks Received:
    766
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    New York, NY
    Ratings:
    +767
    No. Human involvement has added NO variables to our climate. Our weather is no different today than it would be had we invented no fossil fuels or anything that emits CO2 whatsoever. Global Warming is the biggest hoax since snake oil.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  7. edthecynic
    Offline

    edthecynic Censored for Cynicism

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2008
    Messages:
    26,571
    Thanks Received:
    3,076
    Trophy Points:
    260
    Ratings:
    +5,690
    Let me get this straight, this last decade was the warmest in the history of direct instrument measurement WITHOUT the help of the sun????
     
  8. Zoom-boing
    Offline

    Zoom-boing Gold Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    25,062
    Thanks Received:
    7,260
    Trophy Points:
    260
    Location:
    East Japip
    Ratings:
    +10,122
    They will still call it 'climate change' - that's why they moved away from the 'global warming' catch-phrase. Clever, aren't they?
     
  9. KittenKoder
    Offline

    KittenKoder Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    23,281
    Thanks Received:
    1,711
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Nowhere
    Ratings:
    +1,714
    I knew you wanted the ice age ... LOL ... that's why I don't give you as hard a time for wanting the "green" stuff.
     
  10. Epsilon Delta
    Offline

    Epsilon Delta Jedi Master

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2008
    Messages:
    2,687
    Thanks Received:
    363
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Central America
    Ratings:
    +364
    Holy shit, Global warming sounded much better than a mini ice age = \
     

Share This Page