"Global warming is real - it is man-made"

It was done by Tyndall in 1858, silly ass.

:eusa_hand:more genuinely, that was the discovery of the greenhouse effect altogether. such a study as frank challenges has not been conducted successfully in a lab or on a computer, despite their modeling flaws... not one which can tie a significant temp change analogous to earth with as little as 200-300PPM additional CO2.

this is a problem with the very basis of CO2 causation.

Complete and total bullshit.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

Real science from the American Institute of Physics.


Real scientists conjecturing about something that they don't know much about. Interesting scam here.

If they did know something about this, they could put together a decent and accurate prediction based on actual scenarios that predict outcomes that actually occur. Thay are not able to do this.
 
:eusa_hand:more genuinely, that was the discovery of the greenhouse effect altogether. such a study as frank challenges has not been conducted successfully in a lab or on a computer, despite their modeling flaws... not one which can tie a significant temp change analogous to earth with as little as 200-300PPM additional CO2.

this is a problem with the very basis of CO2 causation.

Complete and total bullshit.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

Real science from the American Institute of Physics.


Real scientists conjecturing about something that they don't know much about. Interesting scam here.

If they did know something about this, they could put together a decent and accurate prediction based on actual scenarios that predict outcomes that actually occur. Thay are not able to do this...

...YET!!!. More research, more data, the predictions will get better and better.
 
It's natural and we need to focus on adapting to it.
We can't control the sun spots
We can't control the magnatic poles that is starting to shift
We can't control the volcanos (by the way, puts out more than anything mankind can put out. How you gona put filters on those volcanos?)
It's mother earth doing what she has always done and guess what? Mankind is still around.

LOL!!! Do some research before you post and you won't look so foolish in the future. Man puts more CO2 into the atmosphere in DAYS than all the volcanoes on earth do in a normal year.

Which produces more CO2, volcanic or human activity?
 
Complete and total bullshit.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

Real science from the American Institute of Physics.


Real scientists conjecturing about something that they don't know much about. Interesting scam here.

If they did know something about this, they could put together a decent and accurate prediction based on actual scenarios that predict outcomes that actually occur. Thay are not able to do this...

...YET!!!. More research, more data, the predictions will get better and better.




No, they won't. Their hypothesis has been proven false. They are too unethical to admit it and still wish to slop at the public trough. They are the ones who have and are actively falsifying data. They are anti science , as are you, you ignore the scientific method as a matter of course, hence your opinion is null.
 
It's natural and we need to focus on adapting to it.
We can't control the sun spots
We can't control the magnatic poles that is starting to shift
We can't control the volcanos (by the way, puts out more than anything mankind can put out. How you gona put filters on those volcanos?)
It's mother earth doing what she has always done and guess what? Mankind is still around.

LOL!!! Do some research before you post and you won't look so foolish in the future. Man puts more CO2 into the atmosphere in DAYS than all the volcanoes on earth do in a normal year.

Which produces more CO2, volcanic or human activity?




That only deals with atmospheric release. We have no idea how much CO2 is released from underwater volcano's as they have never been measured. We do know that there is over 20,000 miles of underwater volcanos so it will certainly be significant. But the poinbt that was made is mans total contribution to the worldwide CO2 budget is less than 5% of the total. Termites emit more CO2 than we do by orders of magnitude.
 
Complete and total bullshit.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

Real science from the American Institute of Physics.


Real scientists conjecturing about something that they don't know much about. Interesting scam here.

If they did know something about this, they could put together a decent and accurate prediction based on actual scenarios that predict outcomes that actually occur. Thay are not able to do this...

...YET!!!. More research, more data, the predictions will get better and better.


if you really, really believe and clap your hands...
 
Real scientists conjecturing about something that they don't know much about. Interesting scam here.

If they did know something about this, they could put together a decent and accurate prediction based on actual scenarios that predict outcomes that actually occur. Thay are not able to do this...

...YET!!!. More research, more data, the predictions will get better and better.


if you really, really believe and clap your hands...

Fine, :clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:
 
Complete and total bullshit.

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

Real science from the American Institute of Physics.

did you actually read that shit, rocks? it declares that CO2 is a feedback. :eusa_snooty:

Antagon, reread the whole article. CO2 is a feedback to the Milankovic Cycles. The forcing of the Milankovic Cycles are really quite weak. Now, as we are burning fossil fuels, the CO2 thus generated is not a feedback, and represents a far stronger forcing in an orders of magnitude shorter time period than the Milankovic Cycles.

i dont get a lot of time on here anymore, but keep it real, rocks. we went over this...

The Vostok core, an ice driller declared, "turned the tide in the greenhouse gas controversy."(49) At the least it nailed down what one expert called an "emerging consensus that CO2 is an important component in the system of climatic feedbacks."

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

this is not any milankovic something or the other.

this is basic chemistry/physics. just like with water vapor, more CO2 is released from solution with ocean water when the water is warmer. try it with a soda (pop) 2-liter at different temps. carbonic acid (H2CO3) and water + CO2 gas are the same thing depending on the temperature and pressure.

do you mean to say that atmospheric CO2 is responsible for the winter/summer fluctuations in temperature, or would you agree that cold water will retain/absorb more CO2 in the winter and transpire more in the summer?

mlo_record_2007.jpg


pursuant to that, what does the sawtooth in the plot above indicate that your high school chem teacher failed to?

could it be that temperature fluctuations attributable to other sources like the seasons responsible for the sawtooth effect in the plot might play into CO2 levels in the atmosphere based on the basic physical realities of water and CO2?

:eusa_snooty:
 
Volcanic Gases and Their Effects
here is one for you.
Where is your proof that man can put out more?
Nature has always been more powerful than mankind.

Very good that you went to a reputable site, that of the USGS. Now if you had scrolled down the page, and followed the link at the bottom of the paragraphs on CO2 you would have found this statement from the USGS;

Volcanic Gases and Climate Change Overview

Volcanic versus anthropogenic CO2 emissions
Do the Earth’s volcanoes emit more CO2 than human activities? Research findings indicate that the answer to this frequently asked question is a clear and unequivocal, “No.” Human activities, responsible for some 36,300 million metric tons of CO2 emissions in 2008 [Le Quéré et al., 2009], release at least a hundred times more CO2 annually than all the world’s degassing subaerial and submarine volcanoes (Gerlach, 2010). The half dozen or so published estimates of the global CO2 emission rate for all degassing subaerial and submarine volcanoes lie in a range from 132 million (minimum) to 378 million (maximum) metric tons per year (Gerlach, 1991; Varekamp et al., 1992; Allard, 1992; Sano and Williams, 1996; Marty and Tolstikhin, 1998; Kerrick, 2001). If estimate medians and author-preferred estimates of these studies are used to lessen the influence of outlier estimates, the range is restricted to about 150-270 million metric tons of CO2 per year. The current anthropogenic CO2 emission rate of some 36,300-million metric tons of CO2 per year is about 100 to 300 times larger than these estimated ranges for global volcanic CO2 emissions.

In recent times, about 50-60 volcanoes are normally active on the Earth’s subaerial terrain. One of these is Kīlauea volcano in Hawaii, which has an annual baseline CO2 output of about 3.1 million metric tons per year [Gerlach et al., 2002]. It would take a huge addition of volcanoes to the subaerial landscape—the equivalent of an extra 11,700 Kīlauea volcanoes—to scale up the global volcanic CO2 emission rate to the anthropogenic CO2 emission rate. Similarly, scaling up the volcanic rate to the current anthropogenic rate by adding more submarine volcanoes would require the addition of over 100 mid-oceanic ridge systems to the sea floor.

Global volcanic CO2 emission estimates are uncertain, but there is little doubt that the anthropogenic CO2 emission rate is more than a hundred times greater than the global volcanic CO2 emission rate.
 
did you actually read that shit, rocks? it declares that CO2 is a feedback. :eusa_snooty:

Antagon, reread the whole article. CO2 is a feedback to the Milankovic Cycles. The forcing of the Milankovic Cycles are really quite weak. Now, as we are burning fossil fuels, the CO2 thus generated is not a feedback, and represents a far stronger forcing in an orders of magnitude shorter time period than the Milankovic Cycles.

i dont get a lot of time on here anymore, but keep it real, rocks. we went over this...

The Vostok core, an ice driller declared, "turned the tide in the greenhouse gas controversy."(49) At the least it nailed down what one expert called an "emerging consensus that CO2 is an important component in the system of climatic feedbacks."

The Carbon Dioxide Greenhouse Effect

this is not any milankovic something or the other.

this is basic chemistry/physics. just like with water vapor, more CO2 is released from solution with ocean water when the water is warmer. try it with a soda (pop) 2-liter at different temps. carbonic acid (H2CO3) and water + CO2 gas are the same thing depending on the temperature and pressure.

do you mean to say that atmospheric CO2 is responsible for the winter/summer fluctuations in temperature, or would you agree that cold water will retain/absorb more CO2 in the winter and transpire more in the summer?

mlo_record_2007.jpg


pursuant to that, what does the sawtooth in the plot above indicate that your high school chem teacher failed to?

could it be that temperature fluctuations attributable to other sources like the seasons responsible for the sawtooth effect in the plot might play into CO2 levels in the atmosphere based on the basic physical realities of water and CO2?

:eusa_snooty:

Hmmm..... Seems that you forgot about plants.

The History of Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide on Earth

The black wiggles record the breathing of all the plants and animals on Earth. Plants must inhale carbon dioxide to grow and as they do so, they remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. Almost all animals and bacteria exhale carbon dioxide as they go about living. Animals and bacteria are always active and so carbon dioxide concentration increases whenever plants are inactive. There are more plants growing in the Northern Hemisphere because there is more land mass in the Northern Hemisphere, as a glance at a globe will confirm. When all the plants in the Northern Hemisphere are growing during the summer, they remove significant amounts of carbon dioxide. The maximums occurs every year in May, at the beginning of the growing season. The minimums occurs every year in November, at the end of the growing season. All of this is quite visible on the graph.
 
Not man made, our whole solar system is heating up. It is the area of space that we are in. Ruling elite are just using it to pass agendas.
 
The black wiggles record the breathing of all the plants and animals on Earth. Plants must inhale carbon dioxide to grow and as they do so, they remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.

Yeah, it certainly makes the situation look hopeless.

Having to explain the obvious about what should have been common knowledge tor 20 years. So the political decisions revolve around who BELIEVES what regardless of whether they know jack shit. So the result will be ineffective inaction.

It isn't man made it is made by men doing stupid things with technology. Who is responsible for the planned obsolescence of automobiles that economists don't talk about? How many countries don't manufacture automobiles? How many had made fewer than a million by 1995. But there were 200,000,000 cars in the US that year.

psik
 

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