Global Warming Claims More Victims

[BuckToothMoron]

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All the signs had to be removed because.. the glaciers are still there..... and GROWING!

Glacier National Park Quietly Removes Its ‘Gone by 2020’ Signs

Worldwide glacier recession is well documented (1,2) and varied model projections suggest that certain studied GNP glaciers will disappear in the next few decades, between 2030 (3) to 2080 (4). USGS scientists in Glacier National Park are collaborating with glaciologist from Alaska and Washington and using emerging technologies to understand glacier-climate interactions to advance the understanding of alpine glaciers. By providing objective scientific monitoring, analysis and interpretation of glacier change, the USGS is helping land managers make well informed decisions regarding Park management.

Citations: (1) Oerlemans, 1994, Science | (2) Roe et al., 2016, Nature Geoscience | (3) Hall and Fagre, 2003, Bioscience | (4) Brown et al., 2010, Global and Planetary Change

Retreat of Glaciers in Glacier National Park

That is the date I have seen predicted for decades. Either that sign is photoshopped, or someone was not quoting the scientists.

Temperatures in North America have been rising since the end of the Little Ice Age, for over 150 years, which means those glaciers have been melting rather than growing for over 150 years. Well, until recently anyway, since they appear to be growing now.

You AGW chicken littles don’t seem to understand that the more your predictions fail, the more credibility you lose. I suspect at this rate, by 2030 people would doubt you if you told them the sun would rise in the East tomorrow.

The reality is there is not a single significant prediction of impending doom from global warming alarmist that has come to pass, and the failed predictions continue to clutter the archives.

Failed Apocalyptic Forecasts | Real Climate Science

 

[jc456]

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All the signs had to be removed because.. the glaciers are still there..... and GROWING!

Glacier National Park Quietly Removes Its ‘Gone by 2020’ Signs

Melting Glaciers - Glacier National Park (U.S. National Park Service)

In 1966, the park had 35 named glaciers large enough to be considered active. By 2015, only 26 named glaciers remained. The average area reduction was 39 percent, though some lost as much as 85 percent. This trend of glacier retreat is expected to continue as temperatures rise.

As usual you present a very short history, to make misleading conclusions. Lets try the entire interglacial period instead:

"At the Last Glacial Maximum (approximately 20,000 years ago), GNP was almost entirely encased in ice, with glaciers filling mountain valleys and extending onto the plains (Carrara, 1989). All but the tallest peaks were covered by glaciers. Geologic evidence suggests that by approximately 11,500 years ago, the GNP landscape was nearly ice free (Porter and others, 1983). Lake sediment records suggest that, since approximately 6,500 years ago, small glaciers have been present and active (Munroe and others, 2012).Comprehensive mapping of glacial moraines (fig. 3) indicates that there were 146 small mountain glaciers in GNP at the Little Ice Age glacial maximum near the mid-19th century (Fagre and Martin-Mikle, 2019). Since then, every glacier has decreased in area (Fagre and others, 2017). The rate of retreat, however, is not uniform across GNP glaciers, likely because of variations in glacier geometry, elevation, ice thickness, wind effects on snow, snow avalanches (fig. 4), and shading (Florentine and others, 2018)."

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Wierd how much if it melted 50 years. Especially if it took 20,000 to get that size.

Wierd how much if it melted 50 years. Especially if it took 20,000 to get that size.

Glacier Bay Glacier receded over 6 miles in just 24 years.
1794-1916 Glacier Bay glacier receded over 60 miles as it melted despite being over a mile thick.
History and Geography of Glacier Bay National Park in Southeast Alaska

again, why do we need Glaciers? I'm curious why this is so important, there's a need for a thread about them? Weatherman, This isn't directed at you. And no where in the thread is there a comment on their importance.

 

[Weatherman2020]

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All the signs had to be removed because.. the glaciers are still there..... and GROWING!

Glacier National Park Quietly Removes Its ‘Gone by 2020’ Signs

Melting Glaciers - Glacier National Park (U.S. National Park Service)

In 1966, the park had 35 named glaciers large enough to be considered active. By 2015, only 26 named glaciers remained. The average area reduction was 39 percent, though some lost as much as 85 percent. This trend of glacier retreat is expected to continue as temperatures rise.

As usual you present a very short history, to make misleading conclusions. Lets try the entire interglacial period instead:

"At the Last Glacial Maximum (approximately 20,000 years ago), GNP was almost entirely encased in ice, with glaciers filling mountain valleys and extending onto the plains (Carrara, 1989). All but the tallest peaks were covered by glaciers. Geologic evidence suggests that by approximately 11,500 years ago, the GNP landscape was nearly ice free (Porter and others, 1983). Lake sediment records suggest that, since approximately 6,500 years ago, small glaciers have been present and active (Munroe and others, 2012).Comprehensive mapping of glacial moraines (fig. 3) indicates that there were 146 small mountain glaciers in GNP at the Little Ice Age glacial maximum near the mid-19th century (Fagre and Martin-Mikle, 2019). Since then, every glacier has decreased in area (Fagre and others, 2017). The rate of retreat, however, is not uniform across GNP glaciers, likely because of variations in glacier geometry, elevation, ice thickness, wind effects on snow, snow avalanches (fig. 4), and shading (Florentine and others, 2018)."

LINK

Wierd how much if it melted 50 years. Especially if it took 20,000 to get that size.

Wierd how much if it melted 50 years. Especially if it took 20,000 to get that size.

Glacier Bay Glacier receded over 6 miles in just 24 years.
1794-1916 Glacier Bay glacier receded over 60 miles as it melted despite being over a mile thick.
History and Geography of Glacier Bay National Park in Southeast Alaska

again, why do we need Glaciers? I'm curious why this is so important, there's a need for a thread about them? Weatherman, This isn't directed at you. And no where in the thread is there a comment on their importance.

The Left have this brain dead concept that today’s climate is optimum. Despite the most prolific period of life on earth being when it was warmest.

 

[SSDD]

Melting Glaciers - Glacier National Park (U.S. National Park Service)

As usual you present a very short history, to make misleading conclusions. Lets try the entire interglacial period instead:

"At the Last Glacial Maximum (approximately 20,000 years ago), GNP was almost entirely encased in ice, with glaciers filling mountain valleys and extending onto the plains (Carrara, 1989). All but the tallest peaks were covered by glaciers. Geologic evidence suggests that by approximately 11,500 years ago, the GNP landscape was nearly ice free (Porter and others, 1983). Lake sediment records suggest that, since approximately 6,500 years ago, small glaciers have been present and active (Munroe and others, 2012).Comprehensive mapping of glacial moraines (fig. 3) indicates that there were 146 small mountain glaciers in GNP at the Little Ice Age glacial maximum near the mid-19th century (Fagre and Martin-Mikle, 2019). Since then, every glacier has decreased in area (Fagre and others, 2017). The rate of retreat, however, is not uniform across GNP glaciers, likely because of variations in glacier geometry, elevation, ice thickness, wind effects on snow, snow avalanches (fig. 4), and shading (Florentine and others, 2018)."

LINK

Wierd how much if it melted 50 years. Especially if it took 20,000 to get that size.

Wierd how much if it melted 50 years. Especially if it took 20,000 to get that size.

Glacier Bay Glacier receded over 6 miles in just 24 years.
1794-1916 Glacier Bay glacier receded over 60 miles as it melted despite being over a mile thick.
History and Geography of Glacier Bay National Park in Southeast Alaska

again, why do we need Glaciers? I'm curious why this is so important, there's a need for a thread about them? Weatherman, This isn't directed at you. And no where in the thread is there a comment on their importance.

The Left have this brain dead concept that today’s climate is optimum. Despite the most prolific period of life on earth being when it was warmest.

I have asked over and over what the ideal temperarue for life on earth might be....they never offer up an answer..you can bet that it isn't a relatively cold climate as we have today...

 

[Weatherman2020]

As usual you present a very short history, to make misleading conclusions. Lets try the entire interglacial period instead:

"At the Last Glacial Maximum (approximately 20,000 years ago), GNP was almost entirely encased in ice, with glaciers filling mountain valleys and extending onto the plains (Carrara, 1989). All but the tallest peaks were covered by glaciers. Geologic evidence suggests that by approximately 11,500 years ago, the GNP landscape was nearly ice free (Porter and others, 1983). Lake sediment records suggest that, since approximately 6,500 years ago, small glaciers have been present and active (Munroe and others, 2012).Comprehensive mapping of glacial moraines (fig. 3) indicates that there were 146 small mountain glaciers in GNP at the Little Ice Age glacial maximum near the mid-19th century (Fagre and Martin-Mikle, 2019). Since then, every glacier has decreased in area (Fagre and others, 2017). The rate of retreat, however, is not uniform across GNP glaciers, likely because of variations in glacier geometry, elevation, ice thickness, wind effects on snow, snow avalanches (fig. 4), and shading (Florentine and others, 2018)."

LINK

Wierd how much if it melted 50 years. Especially if it took 20,000 to get that size.

Wierd how much if it melted 50 years. Especially if it took 20,000 to get that size.

Glacier Bay Glacier receded over 6 miles in just 24 years.
1794-1916 Glacier Bay glacier receded over 60 miles as it melted despite being over a mile thick.
History and Geography of Glacier Bay National Park in Southeast Alaska

again, why do we need Glaciers? I'm curious why this is so important, there's a need for a thread about them? Weatherman, This isn't directed at you. And no where in the thread is there a comment on their importance.

The Left have this brain dead concept that today’s climate is optimum. Despite the most prolific period of life on earth being when it was warmest.

I have asked over and over what the ideal temperarue for life on earth might be....they never offer up an answer..you can bet that it isn't a relatively cold climate as we have today...

Same with gun control. They won’t list the needed controls with a cutoff point.

 

[jc456]

As usual you present a very short history, to make misleading conclusions. Lets try the entire interglacial period instead:

"At the Last Glacial Maximum (approximately 20,000 years ago), GNP was almost entirely encased in ice, with glaciers filling mountain valleys and extending onto the plains (Carrara, 1989). All but the tallest peaks were covered by glaciers. Geologic evidence suggests that by approximately 11,500 years ago, the GNP landscape was nearly ice free (Porter and others, 1983). Lake sediment records suggest that, since approximately 6,500 years ago, small glaciers have been present and active (Munroe and others, 2012).Comprehensive mapping of glacial moraines (fig. 3) indicates that there were 146 small mountain glaciers in GNP at the Little Ice Age glacial maximum near the mid-19th century (Fagre and Martin-Mikle, 2019). Since then, every glacier has decreased in area (Fagre and others, 2017). The rate of retreat, however, is not uniform across GNP glaciers, likely because of variations in glacier geometry, elevation, ice thickness, wind effects on snow, snow avalanches (fig. 4), and shading (Florentine and others, 2018)."

LINK

Wierd how much if it melted 50 years. Especially if it took 20,000 to get that size.

Wierd how much if it melted 50 years. Especially if it took 20,000 to get that size.

Glacier Bay Glacier receded over 6 miles in just 24 years.
1794-1916 Glacier Bay glacier receded over 60 miles as it melted despite being over a mile thick.
History and Geography of Glacier Bay National Park in Southeast Alaska

again, why do we need Glaciers? I'm curious why this is so important, there's a need for a thread about them? Weatherman, This isn't directed at you. And no where in the thread is there a comment on their importance.

The Left have this brain dead concept that today’s climate is optimum. Despite the most prolific period of life on earth being when it was warmest.

I have asked over and over what the ideal temperarue for life on earth might be....they never offer up an answer..you can bet that it isn't a relatively cold climate as we have today...

I do know if I put a flower in the freezer, the plant dies. The weathermen tell us to cover plants if there’s a risk of frost! That kills an oxygen supply if it happens. Strange that would be what we need!

 

[jc456]

Wierd how much if it melted 50 years. Especially if it took 20,000 to get that size.

Wierd how much if it melted 50 years. Especially if it took 20,000 to get that size.

Glacier Bay Glacier receded over 6 miles in just 24 years.
1794-1916 Glacier Bay glacier receded over 60 miles as it melted despite being over a mile thick.
History and Geography of Glacier Bay National Park in Southeast Alaska

again, why do we need Glaciers? I'm curious why this is so important, there's a need for a thread about them? Weatherman, This isn't directed at you. And no where in the thread is there a comment on their importance.

The Left have this brain dead concept that today’s climate is optimum. Despite the most prolific period of life on earth being when it was warmest.

I have asked over and over what the ideal temperarue for life on earth might be....they never offer up an answer..you can bet that it isn't a relatively cold climate as we have today...

Same with gun control. They won’t list the needed controls with a cutoff point.

They have no answers to anything. Why would someone vote for a group without answers? Strange

 

[1srelluc]

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All the signs had to be removed because.. the glaciers are still there..... and GROWING!

Glacier National Park Quietly Removes Its ‘Gone by 2020’ Signs

LOL.....Whichever green weenie that authorized that sign should be fired.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

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All the signs had to be removed because.. the glaciers are still there..... and GROWING!

Glacier National Park Quietly Removes Its ‘Gone by 2020’ Signs

Er, um, climate change to blame

 

[CrusaderFrank]

She cracks me up!!!

Thank you! She's freaking awesome!!

 

[Sunsettommy]

Worldwide glacier recession is well documented (1,2) and varied model projections suggest that certain studied GNP glaciers will disappear in the next few decades, between 2030 (3) to 2080 (4). USGS scientists in Glacier National Park are collaborating with glaciologist from Alaska and Washington and using emerging technologies to understand glacier-climate interactions to advance the understanding of alpine glaciers. By providing objective scientific monitoring, analysis and interpretation of glacier change, the USGS is helping land managers make well informed decisions regarding Park management.

Citations: (1) Oerlemans, 1994, Science | (2) Roe et al., 2016, Nature Geoscience | (3) Hall and Fagre, 2003, Bioscience | (4) Brown et al., 2010, Global and Planetary Change

Retreat of Glaciers in Glacier National Park

That is the date I have seen predicted for decades. Either that sign is photoshopped, or someone was not quoting the scientists.

From the USGS is this with a bunch of listed published research showing that the retreat started in the mid 1800's long before CO2 started going up and that it was due to the undeniable fact that it greatly benefitted from the LIA time frame that created significant growth of the ice fields for several centuries which is why it isn't surprising that it has been declining for over 150 years since the end of the LIA around 1850.

USGS

Brief History of Glaciers in Glacier National Park​

Excerpt:

Approximately 20,000 years ago, the Glacier National Park landscape was almost entirely encased in ice, with glaciers filling mountain valleys and extending onto the plains (Carrara, 1989). All but the tallest peaks were covered by glaciers. By approximately 11,500 years ago the Glacier National Park landscape was nearly ice free (Porter and others, 1983).

Climate reconstructions representative of the Glacier National Park region extend back multiple centuries and show numerous long-duration drought and wet periods that influenced the mass balance of glaciers (Pederson and others, 2004). Of particular note was an 80-year period (~1770-1840) of cool, wet summers and above-average winter snowfall that led to a rapid growth of glaciers just prior to the end of the Little Ice Age (Munroe and others, 2012).

Tree-ring based climate records and historic photographs indicate the initiation of frontal recession and glacier thinning between A.D. 1860 and 1880. Decadal-scale climate anomalies in the early 20th century produced a period of glacial recession somewhat analogous to conditions experienced over the past few modern decades. The coupling of hot, dry summers and low winter snowpack produced recession rates as high as 100 m/yr from A.D. 1917-1941 (Pederson and others, 2004

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[skookerasbil]

Evidently claiming whole mountainsides now.....

How ghey is this??