Giving away more "no strings attached" taxpayer money

All right man, let me drop the big enchilada on you. CHILDREN are the USUAL recipients of welfare.

Now, please, again, explain to us how being a welfare recipient = a poor financial manager.

You are working from an ill concieved stereo type.

ROFL... So the idiot comes to declare that children are the recipients of welfare and then wants to contest that welfare recipients aren't good financial stewards... as if children are known for their sound financial worthiness...

Fucking idiots...
 
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Maybe I do have a comprehension problem.

No argument here.


Explain to me how old you believe a person to be at birth.


I said that a person is responsible for their decisions in life pretty much from birth.

What I did NOT say was that 3 year olds were cashing in on the welfare programs under discussion.


Well who is? Do you have any evidence that anyone did not use this money to benefit their kids?

Already asked and answered.
 
No argument here.





I said that a person is responsible for their decisions in life pretty much from birth.

What I did NOT say was that 3 year olds were cashing in on the welfare programs under discussion.


Well who is? Do you have any evidence that anyone did not use this money to benefit their kids?

Already asked and answered.

Then the answer is no. You have nothing but an article about people actually taking the cash offered and equating that to fraud somehow.
 
Did you not know that children are the USUAL recipients of welfare?

I've never seen a child cash a welfare check...

Well thats because a child can't cash a welfare check... which is because a child can't be issued a welfare check; because a child is not a legal entity...

Although, the left is plotting to change that one... and issuing children RIGHTS... sadly the left isn't capable of granting rights; as contrary to their erroneuos beliefs they only endowed by their creator with the same EQUAL rights as everyone else; thus they're not privy to any extra rights which they might otherwise grant to someone else...
 
I've never seen whales fuck.

I don't believe it... I'll bet you're big into chubby porn...


But the topic was children receiving what they were intended to receive... I'm sure you knew that, didn't you?

And do we have any evidence in this case that they did not?

You should go back ad read this thread from the beginning...

You're trying to spin and strawman so much that you're losing track of just what bullshit you're typing...
 
I don't believe it... I'll bet you're big into chubby porn...


But the topic was children receiving what they were intended to receive... I'm sure you knew that, didn't you?

And do we have any evidence in this case that they did not?

You should go back ad read this thread from the beginning...

You're trying to spin and strawman so much that you're losing track of just what bullshit you're typing...

I know...he seems to keep getting stuck on inconsequentials and meaningless points as if it disproves the assertion.
 
Soros of all people joined in this thing to give cash to families on food stamps and/or TANF. The fact that people actually went to collect the money is being somehow used to claim fraud? We've just seen an unprecedented expendature on first a useless war and then an unprecedented corporate cash welfare free for all that insured and paid for multi million dollar salaries and you fuckers have the nerve to contest $200 for the poorest in America TO DO WHATEVER THE HELL THEY WANT TO WITH, AS FAR AS I"M CONCERNED.

I guess it comes down to what I've thought before. Go fuck yourselves.
 
Soros of all people joined in this thing to give cash to families on food stamps and/or TANF. The fact that people actually went to collect the money is being somehow used to claim fraud? We've just seen an unprecedented expendature on first a useless war and then an unprecedented corporate cash welfare free for all that insured and paid for multi million dollar salaries and you fuckers have the nerve to contest $200 for the poorest in America TO DO WHATEVER THE HELL THEY WANT TO WITH, AS FAR AS I"M CONCERNED.

I guess it comes down to what I've thought before. Go fuck yourselves.

Tucking tail and pouting and shouting.

No surprise.
 
And do we have any evidence in this case that they did not?

You should go back ad read this thread from the beginning...

You're trying to spin and strawman so much that you're losing track of just what bullshit you're typing...

I know...he seems to keep getting stuck on inconsequentials and meaningless points as if it disproves the assertion.

I don't know why he wanted us to know about whale fucking.... The guy doesn't sound wrapped very tight...
 
Soros of all people joined in this thing to give cash to families on food stamps and/or TANF. The fact that people actually went to collect the money is being somehow used to claim fraud? We've just seen an unprecedented expendature on first a useless war and then an unprecedented corporate cash welfare free for all that insured and paid for multi million dollar salaries and you fuckers have the nerve to contest $200 for the poorest in America TO DO WHATEVER THE HELL THEY WANT TO WITH, AS FAR AS I"M CONCERNED.

I guess it comes down to what I've thought before. Go fuck yourselves.

Tucking tail and pouting and shouting.

No surprise.


There is no tucking tail or pouting. That's just how it is. They spent $200 a head for families with school children. It was funded by stimulus money and some cash from a donor. The donated money is private charity so you can take your opinion on fifty bucks of that money and stuff it. The rest was allocated from the stimulus money that is intended to be hitting main street from the start. There is nothing out of line happening here you guys just don't like where the line is.
 
Soros of all people joined in this thing to give cash to families on food stamps and/or TANF. The fact that people actually went to collect the money is being somehow used to claim fraud? We've just seen an unprecedented expendature on first a useless war and then an unprecedented corporate cash welfare free for all that insured and paid for multi million dollar salaries and you fuckers have the nerve to contest $200 for the poorest in America TO DO WHATEVER THE HELL THEY WANT TO WITH, AS FAR AS I"M CONCERNED.

I guess it comes down to what I've thought before. Go fuck yourselves.

Tucking tail and pouting and shouting.

No surprise.


There is no tucking tail or pouting. That's just how it is. They spent $200 a head for families with school children. It was funded by stimulus money and some cash from a donor. The donated money is private charity so you can take your opinion on fifty bucks of that money and stuff it. The rest was allocated from the stimulus money that is intended to be hitting main street from the start. There is nothing out of line happening here you guys just don't like where the line is.

Well yeah, of course.

Except for the whole fraud thing going on, you're exactly right. Oh yeah, except for also the $50. It's actually $40 of each $200 is coming from the private charity. Which means that 80% is being funded by the taxpayers...towards a program with the possibility and likelihood of rampant fraud.

But you've already said that they should spend taxpayer money on whatever they want. Fine, thats your position. I however think it should be spent a bit more wisely.
 
Tucking tail and pouting and shouting.

No surprise.


There is no tucking tail or pouting. That's just how it is. They spent $200 a head for families with school children. It was funded by stimulus money and some cash from a donor. The donated money is private charity so you can take your opinion on fifty bucks of that money and stuff it. The rest was allocated from the stimulus money that is intended to be hitting main street from the start. There is nothing out of line happening here you guys just don't like where the line is.

Well yeah, of course.

Except for the whole fraud thing going on, you're exactly right. Oh yeah, except for also the $50. It's actually $40 of each $200 is coming from the private charity. Which means that 80% is being funded by the taxpayers...towards a program with the possibility and likelihood of rampant fraud.

But you've already said that they should spend taxpayer money on whatever they want. Fine, thats your position. I however think it should be spent a bit more wisely.


Where is the fraud? Do you have one confirmed case of fraud?
 
There is no tucking tail or pouting. That's just how it is. They spent $200 a head for families with school children. It was funded by stimulus money and some cash from a donor. The donated money is private charity so you can take your opinion on fifty bucks of that money and stuff it. The rest was allocated from the stimulus money that is intended to be hitting main street from the start. There is nothing out of line happening here you guys just don't like where the line is.

Well yeah, of course.

Except for the whole fraud thing going on, you're exactly right. Oh yeah, except for also the $50. It's actually $40 of each $200 is coming from the private charity. Which means that 80% is being funded by the taxpayers...towards a program with the possibility and likelihood of rampant fraud.

But you've already said that they should spend taxpayer money on whatever they want. Fine, thats your position. I however think it should be spent a bit more wisely.


Where is the fraud? Do you have one confirmed case of fraud?

Nope. Which is why I said "the possibility and likelihood of rampant fraud." There is no way to track to see how the money was spent, so it's impossible to give an actual confirmed case.

But like I also said, it's also impossible to give one confirmed case that the money was spent as it should have been spent. Double edged sword there, this lack of tracking. Kinda cuts both ways.

Although I would say that anyone who claims that the fraud is not occurring is not living in reality.
 
Would you settle for a statement that said people on welfare are in genreal poor manager of their finances. No one makes just 210 a week. At that level you get your groceries damn near free and the government furnishes you room and board. If you can't save up enough money to get into some job training program that will let you earn a living thn you are pretty fucking much incompetent especially given that a lot of those programs are free.
 
Well yeah, of course.

Except for the whole fraud thing going on, you're exactly right. Oh yeah, except for also the $50. It's actually $40 of each $200 is coming from the private charity. Which means that 80% is being funded by the taxpayers...towards a program with the possibility and likelihood of rampant fraud.

But you've already said that they should spend taxpayer money on whatever they want. Fine, thats your position. I however think it should be spent a bit more wisely.


Where is the fraud? Do you have one confirmed case of fraud?

Nope. Which is why I said "the possibility and likelihood of rampant fraud." There is no way to track to see how the money was spent, so it's impossible to give an actual confirmed case.

But like I also said, it's also impossible to give one confirmed case that the money was spent as it should have been spent. Double edged sword there, this lack of tracking. Kinda cuts both ways.

Although I would say that anyone who claims that the fraud is not occurring is not living in reality.


In other words, there was no fraud that you have any knowledge of. You're shadow boxing.
 
Questions questions questions.

1.Did they even bother to make sure that everyone who showed up actually had kids?

2. Did they check to see if any of the people that showed up had obvious addictions to any of the dozens of drugs that permeate our society? If any of them are hooked on coke or meth I guarantee you that every dime of the money they got went to support their habit.

3. Google welfare fraud sometime. There is a lot of it. If you think this program is exampt you are an idiot.
 

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