Give 'em hell, Howard!

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    "I know what I'm talking about. This is my life's work..."
    Howard Dean

    This is 15 minutes long, but well worth watching. We cannot pass a health care reform bill just to get one done.

    Morning Joe
     
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    "Yee Haaaa"

    Howard Dean
     
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    I see you didn't bother to even click on the video. Nice. Maybe Dean was the first to shout Yee Haaa, but we're now overburdened with a bunch of yahoos...like you.

    And oh, by the way, he was the only one who was right all along about the Iraq war and a hundred other things. Yes, at the time, I was a "Deaniac."
     
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    It was supposed to bring a snicker, Mags..... don't get your panties in a wad
     
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    Yes, that's a long video. Dean knows what he's talking about, but the closed-door bill will be passed. It's a foregone conclusion.
     
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    amazingly i agree with dean....

    i've always thought that if there is no public option or expansion of medicare, this is just a huge boon to insurance co's....this bill isn't going to change anything....if the dems pass it, i hope in 2010 that people come out and vote against them
     
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    With what is left of this bill, it makes no sense.

    Christmas gift for Insurance, Big Pharm. I don't see anything left that provides a major improvement for the people. Kill it and do it right
     
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    I still don't think so. It might pass the Senate, but after it gets ripped apart in conference (House and Senate), unless they come out with one that has the trigger option, it's dead. Something I've predicted all along. The trigger option gives the insurance companies time to get their act together, and if they don't, then a public option will be merged in. That is the only option that has the slightest chance of appealing to all the critics, not just those few Republicans who favor it. It's also a clear option, which the American people could finally understand. The way these bills have been merged and committee-ized, no one knows what the hell is going on, so obviously most people are in favor of doing nothing.
     
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    I still support my initial position...if no joint bill is passed by the end of December, the concept is dead, at least until 2012.
     
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    Sorry, but that episode was never "funny" to me. I thought it was unconscionable that just because of Dean's shout out, it destroyed his campaign. That should have been a major clue that partisanship had turned very, very ugly. And we're seeing how much truth is in that with constant "shout outs" by everyone and on full display 24/7.

    Howard Dean might have been a nobody to everyone except Vermonters, but he served 12 years as Governor of the State of Vermont, worked with a bipartisan legislature, and before that was Lieutenant Governor to a Republican, Richard Snelling. We have had a Republican Governor for the past 7 years who has also worked well with a mostly Democratic legislature. My point is, bipartisanship DOES work, when civility is the rule and a lot of common sense is the norm.
     

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