Giuliani Sharpens Liberal Credentials

[red states rule]

Especially after Ron Paul whipped his ass in the debates, and hey, perhaps y'all should look at what New Yorker's think of Giuliani. Mayor Michael Bloomberg outpolls Giuliani by nearly 2:1 for a presidential run.

LOL -Paul won?????????????


Yea, the same way Kerry won the debates against Pres Bush

Paul made me think of Kerry's "global test" crap when he said the US was to blame for 9/11

 

[Bullypulpit]

LOL -Paul won?????????????


Yea, the same way Kerry won the debates against Pres Bush

Paul made me think of Kerry's "global test" crap when he said the US was to blame for 9/11

What...? Ron Paul turned the "Reagan" on the rest of the GOP presidential wannabes, and laid out the facts, not the mythology of Bush's war in Iraq.

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The above results can be found at <a href=http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/ron_paul_demolishes_other_republicans_in_online_polls/>Majority rights.com</a>

 

[red states rule]

What...? Ron Paul turned the "Reagan" on the rest of the GOP presidential wannabes, and laid out the facts, not the mythology of Bush's war in Iraq.

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Ron Paul will be a distant memory before long BP. Donate all the money you want to him now if you'd like, it's not going to make a bit of difference.

People thought they were going to change the way things were done when Perot and Nader were on the ticket. They were wrong. Paul won't be on the ticket, seriously, get over it.


Rudy is a conservative. Look what he got done NY city

 

[maineman]

Rudy is a conservative. Look what he got done NY city

sure. Rudy is a conservative only if you consider pro-gun control, pro-abortion, pro-gay rights politicians conservatives.

 

[red states rule]

sure. Rudy is a conservative only if you consider pro-gun control, pro-abortion, pro-gay rights politicians conservatives.

cutting taxes 24 times, reducing crime, transforming a dirty city into a clean one, cutting the mirder rate, and turning a defict into a surplus

yes, a real lib there

 

[maineman]

cutting taxes 24 times, reducing crime, transforming a dirty city into a clean one, cutting the mirder rate, and turning a defict into a surplus

yes, a real lib there

why do you avoid the fact that he is pro-gun control (liberal position) pro abortion (liberal position) and pro gay rights (liberal position)???

Rudy may be a fiscal conservative, but he is a social liberal...and that will not fly with the religious right....

 

[red states rule]

why do you avoid the fact that he is pro-gun control (liberal position) pro abortion (liberal position) and pro gay rights (liberal position)???

Rudy may be a fiscal conservative, but he is a social liberal...and that will not fly with the religious right....

Those issues are not important to me

Lower taxes

Fighting terrorists

Conservative Judges

Not coddling criminals

Those are the issues most important to me

If he is such a liberal why did the left in NY and the liberal media savage him daily?

 

[Bullypulpit]

Ron Paul will be a distant memory before long BP. Donate all the money you want to him now if you'd like, it's not going to make a bit of difference.

People thought they were going to change the way things were done when Perot and Nader were on the ticket. They were wrong. Paul won't be on the ticket, seriously, get over it.


Rudy is a conservative. Look what he got done NY city

Let's see, in the eight years after the first bombing of the Twin Towers, Rudy put the city's emergency command center UNDER the WTC...He failed to upgrade the com systems of the city's emergency responders so each department could communicate and co-ordinate with each other...and more.

<center><img src=http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2007/05/14/amd_pollgrafic.jpg></center>

But don't take my word for it...<a href=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/05/14/2007-05-14_bloomy_tops_rudy_in_battle_of_the_titans-2.html>The New York Daily News</a>

 

[red states rule]

Right now Rudy beats Hillary in four key states

Obama wins IL - that is it

Libs seem to very scared of Rudy - that is a very good sign

We have a deep bench and all the left has is Hillary and Obama

I would be scared as well if I was a lib

 

[Bullypulpit]

If he is such a liberal why did the left in NY and the liberal media savage him daily?

Because he's just another amoral political windsock?

 

[maineman]

Those issues are not important to me

those issues are important to social conservatives. address that fact.

 

[red states rule]

those issues are important to social conservatives. address that fact.

Rudy is doing well among the "social conservatives". He will not impose his personal views on America as libs do daily

With Dems probably giving Hillary the nomination, we know Rudy will destroy her

Hillary will turn out the conservative voters in huge numbers

 

[red states rule]

Elected in 1993, on the heels of the largest annual tax increase in the city’s history, Giuliani inherited a city crippled by high taxes, ballooning deficits, and stalled job growth. Despite these obstacles, Mayor Giuliani wasted no time in calling for $1 billion in tax cuts over the next four years, slashing city jobs, and cutting city-funded spending in real terms by more than $340 million. Over the rest of his eight years at Gotham’s helm, Giuliani reduced a slew of other taxes and kept spending at an all-time low.

Giuliani is often criticized for large spending increases during the surplus years, but it is instructive to compare his spending record with that of his predecessors and successor. Over the 1980’s, city spending increased by an average of 7.11 percent, while 1991-1994 saw an average spending increase of 4.68 percent. In contrast, city spending during Giuliani’s eight years increased just barely, by an average of 2.84 percent — a remarkable number given the 2.9 percent population-plus-inflation benchmark. In addition, city spending as a percentage of GCP (gross city product) decreased from 10.9 percent to 9.3 percent — meaning, the size of government as a percentage of the economy actually decreased under Giuliani’s tenure. Mayor Giuliani’s relative spending restraint is all the more impressive compared with the 10.01 percent average increase in spending under Mayor Bloomberg’s first term.

On both taxes and spending, Giuliani certainly deserves criticism for isolated indiscretions. During the surplus years, Giuliani loosened the purse strings, and much like his predecessor, David Dinkins, he continued to lavish corporate welfare on pet companies and projects, including his precious baseball stadiums. Giuliani opposed the federal line-item veto after Clinton vetoed a line-item forgiving New York State’s Medicaid debt, and opposed a number of tax cuts over his eight years.

Overall though, Giuliani’s record on taxes and spending displays an intuitive appreciation for the vital role tax cuts play in growing the economy and a determination to cut the fat out of government. It is important to remember that Gotham’s economic revival was due, in large part, to Giuliani’s determination to stimulate a stagnant economy by cutting taxes and spending, even in the face of fierce opposition. While Giuliani’s record on taxes and spending is not perfect, he deserves a lot of credit for tackling a municipal culture long addicted to taxing and spending itself into the ground.

Giuliani demonstrated the same steely resolve and free-market mindset when it came to taking on New York City’s welfare rolls and overbloated bureaucracy, and fighting for school choice.

While Giuliani opposed federal welfare reform — even suing the government over the matter — his opposition did not stem from a philosophical disagreement, but from the burdens the legislation placed on local governments already in the process of implementing welfare. In fact, welfare recipients under Giuliani’s administration dropped from 1.1 million in 1994 to under 500,000 in 2001 — the lowest level in 35 years and a drop of more than 50 percent. This accomplishment marked the first time since July 1966 that New York City had less than 500,000 people on public assistance.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OGVjNWI5YzdkNTEwNzA3ZmJmYjZmNWY5MmQ5MzBlNzg=

 

[maineman]

Rudy is doing well among the "social conservatives". He will not impose his personal views on America as libs do daily

With Dems probably giving Hillary the nomination, we know Rudy will destroy her

Hillary will turn out the conservative voters in huge numbers

you keep telling yourself that a moderate republican who supports gay rights, abortion rights and gun control is going to bring the bible thumpers out to vote on election day. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[red states rule]

you keep telling yourself that a moderate republican who supports gay rights, abortion rights and gun control is going to bring the bible thumpers out to vote on election day. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

and a surrendner monkey like Hilllary will keep conservatives home

that is a much bigger laugh

 

[red states rule]

you keep telling yourself that a moderate republican who supports gay rights, abortion rights and gun control is going to bring the bible thumpers out to vote on election day. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/republican_presidential_nomination-192.html

 

[maineman]

and a surrendner monkey like Hilllary will keep conservatives home

that is a much bigger laugh

you keep telling yourself that.... you keep telling yourself that by november of '08 when congressional republicans will have abandoned the war like rats leaving a sinking ship..when the surge will have proven to be a failure, and the Iraq civil war will be spiralling out of control....tell yourself that a anti-war candidate won't look pretty damned good..... especially when matched up against a guy that, on a good day, conservatives would have to hold their nose to vote for.

 

[red states rule]

you keep telling yourself that.... you keep telling yourself that by november of '08 when congressional republicans will have abandoned the war like rats leaving a sinking ship..when the surge will have proven to be a failure, and the Iraq civil war will be spiralling out of control....tell yourself that a anti-war candidate won't look pretty damned good..... especially when matched up against a guy that, on a good day, conservatives would have to hold their nose to vote for.

As I said, Dems only hope for their party is to hope for failure

Thanks for making my case once again

 

[maineman]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/republican_presidential_nomination-192.html

that poll doesn't address my point in the least...why post it?

 

[red states rule]

that poll doesn't address my point in the least...why post it?

It shows Rudy leading in every poll

Oh, you ignore polls that you don't agree with - sorry