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Flanders

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The United Nations is nothing more than an organization with a customer base consisting of 192 countries. The UN might be better liked if they sold cookies instead hustling children on Halloween.

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I remember liberals on another board in 2006 going bunkers because I said the UN is even ruining Halloween! The UN was giving away little cardboard boxes on the Internet. The boxes had a coin slot in them like a piggy bank. Trick or treaters were encouraged to ask people to donate money to some UN charity or other. The filthy bums would not let little kids have their trick or treat fun. I’m sure that UN charity hustlers have a story to justify their B.S.

Worst of all, the trick-or-treat hustle is conducted by UNICEF; surely one of the foulest United Nations agencies. It’s more than the money. It’s the idea that the UN is good being planted in the heads of five year olds that is offensive. Parents who do that to their own children should be ashamed of themselves. Halloween is about kids and candy and scary costumes —— not about sick one world politics. Hell, even LBJ got in on the act in 1965:


Your UNICEF Trick or Treat Day has helped turn a holiday too often marred by youthful vandalism into a program of basic training in world citizenship. Lyndon B. Johnson

If I had little gumps out trick or treating, I would let them collect for the UN —— then I would tell them to keep the money because the UN sucks.”

Moving on to crime and punishment

Once again you find the United Nations’ filthy hands in affairs that belong to national governments. So-called United Nations criminal trials like Radovan Karadzic’s farce serve one purpose —— strengthening non-existent International law. Socialism’s entire propaganda apparatus focuses on that purpose. And with good reason. International law is Socialist law is United Nations law.

Incidentally, I cannot find out where Karadzic will do the time:


A Radovan Karadzic verdict handed down by a U.N. court Thursday found the Bosnian Serb wartime leader guilty of genocide and nine other charges, The Associated Press reported.​

Radovan Karadzic Verdict: Former Bosnian Serb Leader Gets 40 Years in Genocide Case
By Newsmax Wires | Thursday, 24 Mar 2016 11:08 AM

Radovan Karadzic Verdict: Former Bosnian Serb Leader Gets 40 Years in Genocide Case

Taqiyya the Liar goes around the world apologizing for America when he should be apologizing to Americans for continuing America’s shameful involvement in the United Nations’ phoney judicial system. I say continuing because funding the International Court of Justice, commonly referred to as the World Court, began the day the UN opened for business in 1945. President Reagan withdrew from compulsory jurisdiction in 1986 but funding was never stopped. In addition to funding, the US submits to the ICJ’s jurisdiction on a case by case basis.

NOTE: The type of person working for the ICJ is seldom publicized. It’s a disgrace that the slimiest people gathered from judicial sewers around the globe are paid in part with American tax dollars. On top of everything else that filthy court in The Hague is located in the filthiest inhumane country in Europe. The Netherlands is the proving ground for worldwide Socialism’s Culture of Death. As I’ve said many times “Nazi Germany’s occupation was the last good thing to happen in Holland.”

America’s shame increased when the International Criminal Court was established in 2002. The ICC was preceded by the concept of International Tribunals that can be traced back to 1919; the glory years of worldwide Socialism’s greatest advances. The concept is now a reality.

As near as I can navigate the maze of United Nations tribunals, the ICC includes War Crimes Tribunals, Criminal Tribunals, Genocide Tribunals, and lord only knows what else.

In May of 2002 Bush the Younger unsigned the 1998 Rome Statute that codified the ICC, but he did not “unsign” funding.

American military personal, diplomats, et al. are not subject to the ICC's authority. Nevertheless, funding amounts to Washington's tacit agreement that the ICC is legitimate. The legitimacy of the UN, and subsequently the World Court and its spinoff, the ICC, is the problem that must be faced. No Administration, or group of senators, has the Right to give away any part of this country; not our constitutionally protected liberties, not our sovereignty, and not American tax dollars. Those facts won't change because the UN magnanimously agrees to a few things it can't enforce anyway.

Incidentally, before Saddam Hussein was captured the American Left was angling to have him tried in The Hague by the International Criminal Court not to mention gaining legitimacy for the UN’s judiciary. Eventually, Saddam was tried by Iraqis for crimes against Iraqis.

The International community went out of its collective mind trying to have Saddam tried in The Hague. Failing at that, UN surrogates called the trial illegitimate. They next tried to gain control of the appeals process because UN law does not have a death penalty. They failed again. The best thing about Saddam’s hanging was not his death, but that UN-lovers were thwarted.

Military tribunals work quite well when there is a winner and a loser. When the crimes are internal and there is no winning foreign military available to conduct military tribunals the people should judge the accused. President Bush did the right thing in Saddam’s case. The US military could have tried Saddam in a military court, but Bush wisely decided to let the Iraqis deal with Saddam and his cohorts.

Let me resurrect a few names that are probably forgotten by most Americans. The most famous one beat the odds:


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Slobodan Milosevic
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Death came as Mr. Milosevic's four-year trial for war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide was drawing to a close. A verdict had been expected later this year.​

Slobodan Milosevic, 64, Former Yugoslav Leader Accused of War Crimes, Dies
By MARLISE SIMONS and ALISON SMALE
Published: March 12, 2006

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/12/international/europe/12milosevic.html?pagewanted=all

Unfortunately, the United Nations also got their hands on Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic:

THE HAGUE, Netherlands – Twenty years after his troops began brutally ethnically cleansing Bosnian towns and villages of non-Serbs, Gen. Ratko Mladic went on trial Wednesday at the Yugoslav war crimes tribunal accused of 11 counts of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes.

The ailing 70-year-old Mladic's appearance at the U.N. court war crimes tribunal marked the end of a long wait for justice to survivors of the 1992-95 war that left some 100,000 people dead. The trial is also a landmark for the U.N. court and international justice -- Mladic is the last suspect from the Bosnian war to go on trial here.​

Don’t believe anything the prosecution and the media said about Mladic. His “trial” was a political trial from day one. The war in the former Yugoslavia was a war between Muslims and Christians. Most of all do not fall for the phrase “ethnic cleansing.”

Serbs were fighting to separate themselves from Muslims by driving them back to Muslim countries. There were no extermination camps, no ovens, no mini-Holocaust, yet NATO killed Christians in order to save Muslims. I wonder how they about feel it when they look at the 2 million Muslim United Nations refugees pouring into NATO countries.

Just so I am not misunderstood on this. Mladic was guilty of terrible crimes but he should have been tried and judged by his countrymen not by fantasy International law administered by an illegitimate UN judicial system. That’s not going to happen for this reason:


. . . in the former Serb stronghold of Pale, people who gathered to watch the trial on TV applauded as they saw their general enter the courtroom.

"Mladic is our hero, it's sad that we see him there. We blame the Hague and international community," said Milan Ivanovic, a 20-year-old law student.​

NOTE: Mladic could call Bill Clinton to testify, then make his case for self-defense by questioning him about his part in killing Serb Christians when they were not at war against the American people. Would you just love seeing dirt bag Clinton nailed by the Rome Treaty his administration signed?

Mladic might also call former Secretary General Goofy Annan, and Secretary General Ban, to the stand and ask them how they determine who is a criminal? I’d sure like to dissect their answer.

After Slobodan Milosevic’s trial was underway I also suggested that he call Bill Clinton to testify.

Note the sorry excuse Judge Alphons Orie gave for delaying Ratko Mladic’s trial:


THE HAGUE, Netherlands – The judge in Ratko Mladic's war crimes trial on Thursday indefinitely delayed the presentation of evidence due to "errors" by prosecutors in disclosing evidence to defense lawyers — a ruling that throws the future of the trial into question.

Presiding judge Alphons Orie said he was delaying the Yugoslav war crimes tribunal case due to "significant disclosure errors" by prosecutors, who are obliged to share all their evidence with Mladic's defense team.​

He said judges are still analyzing the "scope and full impact" of the error and aim to establish a new starting date "as soon as possible." The presentation of evidence was supposed to begin later this month.​

Ratko Mladic War Crimes Trial: Judge Delays Case Indefinitely Due to Disclosure Errors By Prosecutors
Published May 17, 2012
Associated Press

Judge delays Mladic war crimes trial due to 'significant disclosure errors' | Fox News

I assume the judge never heard of throwing a case out of court for prosecutorial misconduct, or even declaring a mistrial.

And if it was a war crimes trial as the United Nations claimed where was the crime in this:


Groome also showed judges video of the bloody aftermath of a notorious shelling of a market in Markale, in the Bosnian capital Sarajevo, that killed dozens of people.​

Ratko Mladic's genocide trial begins at war crimes tribunal
Published May 16, 2012 Associated Press

Ratko Mladic's genocide trial begins at war crimes tribunal | Fox News

As far as I know it is not a war crime when civilians are killed by artillery fire. Example: If Mladic was guilty of a war crime then shelling enemy troops using hospitals and school as shields would be a war crime. In real wars the innocent cannot be separated from enemy combatants. NATO bombs dropped from planes surely killed more civilian Serbs than they killed Serb troops. If long-range killing is a war crime the people that ordered those bombings should have been in the dock alongside Mladic.

Muslim fundamentalists specialize in killing non-combatants, yet leading Democrats still insist on calling them criminals as well as trying them in civilian courts, while scrupulously avoiding charging them with war crimes.

If Mladic did do the other things he was accused of doing he still does not belong in an illegitimate United Nations court. My guess is that the trial was delayed not to protect Mladic’s Rights, but because prosecutors did not satisfy the court’s political agenda; i.e., establishing the UN’s authority to tell everyone who they must live with —— along with tearing down national boundaries. Remember that the Balkan War was fought to drive Muslims and Croats out of Serbia’s territory. That is the crime Mladic will be punished for.

See this thread for a bit more about killing Christians for Muslims:


Beware Of Biden
 
Jeez, suggesting kids get money is "not letting kids have fun".... are you serious?
 
I'd like to know who crowned them the leader of all the world. I hope the next person to be President pulls us out as a member of that hate group filled with countries who would like nothing better than: to see us fall.

and what does the left do to us: puts in one of their puppets whose strings they pull with Obama as President, and is thinking of putting another of their puppets in with Hillary. This country has become hopeless because the citizens has NO IDEA of who they are putting in to run our country and our lives
 
The last people I want to know are my neighbors.
To The Great Goose: LOL. The worst ones are “neighbors” who drop in uninvited. Over the tears, I told more than one: “I am not running a lonely hearts club.”
 
The United Nations is nothing more than an organization with a customer base consisting of 192 countries.
I would be out campaigning for Donald Trump if I believed this:

Trump: The national-sovereignty candidate
Posted By Paul Bremmer On 03/25/2016 @ 8:33 pm

Trump: The national-sovereignty candidate

The fact is that sovereignty is meaningless so long as the US is a member of the UN. Indeed, Donald Trump said he respects the United Nations. That is why no candidate can be believed on sovereignty until they come out in favor of passing H.R. 75.

Text of H.R. 75 (113th): American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2013 (Introduced version) - GovTrack.us

No Democrat would vote to pass H.R. 75. No Democrat president, and a few Republicans I can think of, would ever sign it. Ted Cruz comes closest to actually defending sovereignty via the Constitution, but even he never said he would ask Congress to send him H.R. 75.
 
The only good thing I ever saw the United Nations do is lock up a character like this:

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Florence Hartmann, the former Le Monde reporter and spokeswoman of the international criminal tribunal for former Yugoslavia, is arrested in The Hague. Photograph: Robin van Lonkhuijsen/AFP/Getty Images
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There was no reply from the UN press office in New York.

In a statement on its website, the UN mechanism said Hartmann had been arrested on an “outstanding arrest warrant issued in November 2011 by the appeals chamber of the international criminal tribunal for the former Yugoslavia”.​

French journalist Florence Hartmann jailed by war crimes tribunal
Ed Vulliamy
Saturday 26 March 2016 08.33 EDT

French journalist Florence Hartmann jailed by war crimes tribunal
 
They never stop trying. There is no doubt that our self-appointed spiritual leader will either attend or send a representative.

The first-ever United Nations-sponsored World Humanitarian Summit is scheduled to take place May 23-24, 2016 in Istanbul, Turkey. UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon praised Turkey’s “compassionate leadership” in hosting the summit and its “admirable commitment to humanitarian action.”

Turkey’s hosting of the UN humanitarian summit is a travesty. Ban Ki-moon’s praise of Turkey’s “compassionate leadership” and “admirable commitment to humanitarian action” is a disgrace

Turkey is the Wrong Choice to Host the UN’s First Global Humanitarian Summit
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By Joseph A. Klein
March 29, 2016


There is no wrong choice. Everything the United Nations does is a disgrace. There is only one right choice for Americans.

WITHDRAW FROM THE UNITED NATIONS
 
They never stop trying. There is no doubt that our self-appointed spiritual leader will either attend or send a representative.

The first-ever United Nations-sponsored World Humanitarian Summit is scheduled to take place May 23-24, 2016 in Istanbul, Turkey. UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon praised Turkey’s “compassionate leadership” in hosting the summit and its “admirable commitment to humanitarian action.”

Turkey’s hosting of the UN humanitarian summit is a travesty. Ban Ki-moon’s praise of Turkey’s “compassionate leadership” and “admirable commitment to humanitarian action” is a disgrace

Turkey is the Wrong Choice to Host the UN’s First Global Humanitarian Summit
Joseph A. Klein image
By Joseph A. Klein
March 29, 2016


There is no wrong choice. Everything the United Nations does is a disgrace. There is only one right choice for Americans.

WITHDRAW FROM THE UNITED NATIONS
But but but ... do you then want those NGO's to conduct their subversive meetings underground?
 
do you then want those NGO's to conduct their subversive meetings underground?
To anotherlife: They could hold meetings in the UN’s basement —— so longs as taxpayers are not picking up the tab.

Text of the American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2013

Sec. 4. United States assessed and voluntary contributions to the United Nations

No funds are authorized to be appropriated or otherwise made available for assessed or voluntary contributions of the United States to the United Nations or to any organ, specialized agency, commission or other formally affiliated body of the United Nations, except that funds may be appropriated to facilitate termination of United States membership and withdrawal of United States personnel and equipment, in accordance with sections 2 and 3, respectively. Upon termination of United States membership, no payments shall be made to the United Nations or to any organ, specialized agency, commission or other formally affiliated body of the United Nations, out of any funds appropriated prior to such termination or out of any other funds available for such purposes.

Sec. 5. United Nations peacekeeping operations

(a) Termination

No funds are authorized to be appropriated or otherwise made available for any United States contribution to any United Nations military or peacekeeping operation or force.

(b) Terminations of United States participation in United Nations peacekeeping operations

No funds may be obligated or expended to support the participation of any member of the Armed Forces of the United States as part of any United Nations military or peacekeeping operation or force. No member of the Armed Forces of the United States may serve under the command of the United Nations.

Text of H.R. 75 (113th): American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2013 (Introduced version) - GovTrack.us
 
do you then want those NGO's to conduct their subversive meetings underground?
To anotherlife: They could hold meetings in the UN’s basement —— so longs as taxpayers are not picking up the tab.

Text of the American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2013

Sec. 4. United States assessed and voluntary contributions to the United Nations

No funds are authorized to be appropriated or otherwise made available for assessed or voluntary contributions of the United States to the United Nations or to any organ, specialized agency, commission or other formally affiliated body of the United Nations, except that funds may be appropriated to facilitate termination of United States membership and withdrawal of United States personnel and equipment, in accordance with sections 2 and 3, respectively. Upon termination of United States membership, no payments shall be made to the United Nations or to any organ, specialized agency, commission or other formally affiliated body of the United Nations, out of any funds appropriated prior to such termination or out of any other funds available for such purposes.

Sec. 5. United Nations peacekeeping operations

(a) Termination

No funds are authorized to be appropriated or otherwise made available for any United States contribution to any United Nations military or peacekeeping operation or force.

(b) Terminations of United States participation in United Nations peacekeeping operations

No funds may be obligated or expended to support the participation of any member of the Armed Forces of the United States as part of any United Nations military or peacekeeping operation or force. No member of the Armed Forces of the United States may serve under the command of the United Nations.

Text of H.R. 75 (113th): American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2013 (Introduced version) - GovTrack.us
Well, I guess what I can say is that the USA dropping the United Nations would come as a good news to all those people who are denied sovereignty by nation states.
 
The length of the OP screams DON'T READ ME.

And who am I to argue with something with lungs like that.
 
Well, I guess what I can say is that the USA dropping the United Nations would come as a good news to
To anotherlife: Exactly what are you talking about? Are you in favor of the US withdrawing or not? And what does this mean?
all those people who are denied sovereignty by nation states.
Idont know if the USA should exit the UN or not. But the UN is an elite club, established by a core set of nation states that were in the ww2 entente. The UN is mostly used to kill off people who want the same national sovereignty as those original entente countries.
 
To see the Karadzic verdict as anything but wonderful is twisted.You can trace many of our current issues back to his genocide.
 
To see the Karadzic verdict as anything but wonderful is twisted.
To Tommy Tainant: You are twisted if you think anything the United Nations does is wonderful.

And if punishing Karadzic is your objective, I guess this went over your head:

Military tribunals work quite well when there is a winner and a loser. When the crimes are internal and there is no winning foreign military available to conduct military tribunals the people should judge the accused.
You can trace many of our current issues back to his genocide.
To Tommy Tainant: Maybe in your country but not in mine.

Incidentally, can you support your opinion with an example?
 
To see the Karadzic verdict as anything but wonderful is twisted.You can trace many of our current issues back to his genocide.
The problem with that is, that if we put away Karadzic, then why don't we put away those who cleansed away the German, the Hungarian, and the Italian? ... Oh because that is not history and never happened?
 

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