Gingrich has a Reverend Wright too

Somehow, these old positions have the same impact as whether or not a candidate once believed in Santa Clause.

If people do not mature and learn in their lifetimes, what does that say about them?

Listen to what you're saying...

You're saying that it should be considered ok that Newt endorsed the idea of erasing borders and ending US sovereignty, and replacing the US constitution.

This was only like 15 years ago.

It's NEVER been ok to have views like this. NEVER.

How you could possibly bring yourself to trust the man after something like this is incredible. This is about as anti-American as it gets without actually taking up arms against the US.




so why did you vote for obiedoodle?
 
You may not like what Rev. Wright said(as most flag waving sheep don't) but he wasn't wrong. We did enslave,torture,rape and kill blacks for hundreds of years,and treated them just as bad up untill the civil rights movrment. You can bury your head in the sand and believe that America is righteous but those of us who live in the real world know better.
 
A couple, actually. Named Alvin and Heidi Troffler.

Give it a read sometime. It's only all about how US sovereignty is outdated and obsolete, and the US constitution should be "altered and replaced".

This guy is quite a friend to the United States.

You should definitely defend this and maintain your support for him :thup:
Interesting reading here:
The Phony Right-Wing, Part 2: Newt Gingrich &
“The Third Way/Wave may sound new and innocuous to many, but its founders include such earlier notables as Plato (The Republic), Karl Marx (The Communist Manifesto), and Adolf Hitler (National Socialism), certainly not the best crew for men and women sworn to defend our Constitution and to turn to for inspiration.”
“Plato didn’t call his revolutionary plan for tyranny ‘tyranny.’ Who would? Rather he cloaked every item of revolutionary change in more palatable terms like, ‘justice,’ or ‘the heavenly ideal,’ or ‘the pursuit of the good,’ or ‘the love of truth.’ ” He believed in and practiced double talk just as the politicians on both the left and right do today. “He believed so much in his double talk that he convinced casual readers that they were mulling over a Judeo-Christian appeal to virtue. Virtue, he taught, is whatever sustains or brings about the ideal city. And such an ideal city was his! Communist, through and through.”
And here:
Constance Cumbey -- Newt Gingrich, The New Age, Global Civil Society and Global Governance

"Democrats in Drag":
Democrats In Drag — Steve Farrell | The Moral Liberal
 
Somehow, these old positions have the same impact as whether or not a candidate once believed in Santa Clause.

If people do not mature and learn in their lifetimes, what does that say about them?

Listen to what you're saying...

You're saying that it should be considered ok that Newt endorsed the idea of erasing borders and ending US sovereignty, and replacing the US constitution.

This was only like 15 years ago.

It's NEVER been ok to have views like this. NEVER.

How you could possibly bring yourself to trust the man after something like this is incredible. This is about as anti-American as it gets without actually taking up arms against the US.




so why did you vote for obiedoodle?

Because I didn't.
 
Ok, Paulie. Can you post the forward he wrote? I went to Amazon, only available through 3rd parties, though the reviews from the 90's were interesting to read:

[ame]http://www.amazon.com/Creating-New-Civilization-Politics-Third/dp/1570362238[/ame]
 
Listen to what you're saying...

You're saying that it should be considered ok that Newt endorsed the idea of erasing borders and ending US sovereignty, and replacing the US constitution.

This was only like 15 years ago.

It's NEVER been ok to have views like this. NEVER.

How you could possibly bring yourself to trust the man after something like this is incredible. This is about as anti-American as it gets without actually taking up arms against the US.




so why did you vote for obiedoodle?

Because I didn't.







humor.. big laugh.. tee hee hee knot
 

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