Gilad Shalit Deal Reached With Hamas: Israel Radio

[P F Tinmore]

GAZA, (PIC)-- Well-informed sources said that the first stage of the prisoner-exchange deal which will be implemented in a few days will see the release of 450 male captives and all 27 female captives.

The sources informed PIC correspondent that the amongst the 450 captives to be released in the first stage there are 315 who were serving life sentences and 135 serving long sentences.

The sources also said that five of the female captives are serving life sentences, including Ahlam al-Tamimi and Qahera al-Sa'di.

The first group to be released will also include 45 captives from Jerusalem, 5 captives from 1948-occupied Palestine, 1 captive from the Golan, 131 from the Gaza Strip and 268 from the West Bank, according to the sources.

The second stage will see the release of 550 captives.

Sources: the first stage will see the release of all female captives

 

[docmauser1]

1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 5,554 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel.

Palistanian criminals, what else is new.

 

[JStone]

They still hold plenty more
1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 5,554 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel.

famericansknew

BOGUS link, puta. No wonder spain is so backward and bankrupt. OWNED, puta.

Washington Post: Israel's Example

No one would say that Israel is soft on terrorism, which makes it all the more fascinating that a country that essentially lives under siege provides so many legal accommodations to those it detains as unlawful combatants. It's a stark contrast to the Bush administration's approach and one the administration may be able to learn from.

In Israel, even noncitizens captured outside the country and designated unlawful combatants are entitled to due process in Israeli civilian courts. They are guaranteed judicial review of their detention within 14 days of capture. They are guaranteed the services of a lawyer no later than 34 days after capture. And they are guaranteed a review of their detention by an Israeli district court judge every six months thereafter. If an unlawful combatant is captured in the occupied territories of the West Bank, the case proceeds through Israeli military courts, with similar guarantees of judicial review and legal representation.

The Israeli system is not without critics. Advocates of civil liberties there point to procedures that allow a judge to review evidence introduced by the government that the defense has not seen or been allowed to rebut. And detainee advocates, such as the Israeli group HaMoked, suggest that the government enjoys an overwhelming advantage, as evidenced by the relatively few detentions that have been forbidden by judges. According to its Web site, the group challenged 142 detentions in 2004; 11 of those challenges prevailed.

Nothing in the Israeli system prevents a lengthy and potentially indefinite detention of an enemy combatant. But unlike the state of play in the United States, the Israeli Supreme Court has ruled that these combatants can be held only so long as the state can prove they are an imminent danger. If the state fails to make that case, the detainees must be released. According to the Israeli law professors, these safeguards have not clogged the nation's courts -- or prevented Israeli security forces from defending the country.

Israel's Example

 

[jillian]

1000 to 1????

I understand they want the guy back, but doesnt this set a bad precendent?

Kidnap one of ours, and we give you back a battalion.

it's always been like that because israel places a greater value on one life than hamas does on 1,000.

 

[Jos]

israel places a greater value on one jews life than 1000 Palestinians held in jail without charges
"even one million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail"
Baruch Goldstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[JStone]

"even one million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail"
Baruch Goldstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Puta, blow more touristas during the 18 hour siesta, post less. OWNED, puta

Torah: Love Thy Neighbor As Thyself.

Sahih Bukhari: The Day of Judgment will not have come until you fight with the Jews, and the stones and the trees behind which a Jew will be hiding will say: 'O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him!

My message to the loathed Jews is that there is no god but allah, we will chase you everywhere We are a nation that drinks blood, and we know that there is no better blood than the blood of the Jews. We will not leave you alone until we have quenched our thirst with your blood, and our children's thirst with your blood, we will not rest until you leave the Muslim countries.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rleFpY402vM]Palestinian - Terrorism - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Sunni Man]

The Zionist Israeli's could care less about Gilad Shalit.

This is just a PR stunt played out for the Western media.

 

[JStone]

The Zionist Israeli's could care less about Gilad Shalit.

This is just a PR stunt played out for the Western media.

You pray 5 times a day to the Zionist Allah who has willed Jews to be the most educated, brilliant, accomplished and successful people in the world and the Muhammadan the most ignorant, backward, unsuccessful and fucked up people in the world known only for terrorism.

Sucker.

Investor's Business Daily: How Free Israel Prospers As Islam Remains In The Dark
Israel, a New Jersey-sized nation of 7.5 million people (1.7 million of whom are Arab) filed 7,082 international patents in the five years ending in 2007. By contrast, 28 majority-Muslim nations with almost 1.2 billion people — 155 times the population of Israel — were granted 2,071 patents in the same period. Narrowing the comparison to the 17 Muslim nations of the Middle East from Morocco to Iran and down the Arabian Peninsula, the 409 million people in that region generated 680 patents in five years.
This means that the Arab and Iranian world produced about one patent per year for every 3 million people, compared with Israel's output of one annual patent for every 5,295 people, an Israeli rate some 568 times that of Israel's neighbors and sometime enemies.

The awarding of Nobel Prizes in the quantitative areas of chemistry, economics and physics shows a similar disparity, with five Israeli winners compared with one French Algerian (a Jew who earned the prize for work done in France) and an Egyptian-American (for work done at Caltech in California).

But wealth isn't the sole explanation for this disparity in intellectual innovation. Saudi Arabia enjoyed a per capita income of $24,200 in 2010. Yet the Kingdom averages an anemic 37 patents per year compared with Israel's 1,416 per year — and there are 3 1/2 times more Saudis than Israelis, meaning that Israel's per capita output of intellectual property is 132 times greater than Saudi Arabia's.

The telltale signs of Israel's economic rise can be seen in the Tel Aviv skyline and the new office complexes around Jerusalem. International giant Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. was founded in 1901 by three pharmacists in Jerusalem. Today it employs 40,000 around the world. Teva has a market cap of $44.2 billion — the most highly valued company based in Israel and the ninth-largest firm traded on the Nasdaq

A few miles from Teva's gleaming office campus west of the Old City sits the former national mint building for the British Mandate. Built in 1937, this renovated building, along with the old Ottoman Empire railway warehouses next to it, houses the JVP Media Quarter and 300 entrepreneurs.

The complex hosts Israel's leading venture capital firm, Jerusalem Venture Partners, as well as 35 startups and a performing arts center for good measure. JVP, which has helped launch 70 companies since 1993, has more than $820 million under management with seven active venture capital funds.

The Media Quarter concept was created in 2002 when JVP founder Erel Margalit wanted to create a media-focused incubator that combined technology, culture, art and business. JVP has shepherded 18 initial public offerings, mergers and acquisitions, including some of the largest Israel-based companies: Qlik Technologies, Netro Corp., Chromatis Networks, Precise Software, Cogent Communications.

Less than 300 miles separate the purposeful creative buzz in the JVP Media Quarter from the restive streets of Cairo, where the Muslim Brotherhood tells Egypt's unemployed that their plight is the fault of corrupt capitalists and Jews. It doesn't take a Nobel Prize-winning economist to figure out where these two economies are going.

How Free Israel Prospers As Islam Remains In Dark - Investors.com

 

[docmauser1]

israel places a greater value on one jews life than 1000 Palestinians held in jail without charges "even one million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail"

Evidently so, if one jew's worth 1027 discount palistanians or so the hamas exchange rate goes.

 

[JStone]

The Zionist Israeli's could care less about Gilad Shalit.

This is just a PR stunt played out for the Western media. :col:

Islam: We Desire Death Like You Desire Life.

Judaism: Whoever destroys a soul, it is considered as if he destroyed an entire world. And whoever saves a life, it is considered as if he saved an entire world.

Historian Paul Johnson...

The lack of symmetry between the risks taken by Arabs and by Israelis is one result of a different view of the sanctity of human life. The Jewish faith was the first religion to preach this sanctity and to magnify the value of each individual human being in the eyes of his Creator — hence, equally, in other human beings. This is the main reason that Mosaic law differs so markedly in humanity and reason from all the other fiercely retributive codes of the ancient Near East. The value placed on human life by Jews has steadily increased over the centuries, as a response to persecution and, above all, to the Nazi attempt at extermination of the entire people. Israel itself was created as a refuge and fortress in which Jewish lives would be safe from annihilation. It is thus the physical embodiment of the principle that individual life is sacred.

By contrast, the Islamic-Arab concept of "the war of the martyrs" places no value on human life except as a sacrifice in the holy war. A warrior gains infinitely more by losing his life than by preserving it, for then he gains eternal life, and his status as a martyr is enhanced by the number of dead Israelis — "sons and daughters of Satan" — whom he takes with him.

 

[Rocko]

They still hold plenty more
1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 5,554 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel.

Thats not because the arabs aren't trying.

 

[P F Tinmore]

They still hold plenty more
1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 5,554 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel.

Thats not because the arabs aren't trying.

It would help if they could mooch money and weapons like Israel.

 

[JStone]

They still hold plenty more
1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 5,554 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel.

Thats not because the arabs aren't trying.

It would help if they could mooch money and weapons like Israel.

Palestinians are the most fucked up people in the world.

Boeing Aerospace...

Israel has a large and modern air force and a successful commercial aviation sector. Israel is also important to Boeing because of its position as a world aerospace leader. The Israeli aerospace industry in the public and private sectors provides a high level of innovation and expertise in the design and manufacture of a wide variety of defense, space and communications products. With some of the world’s highest per capita numbers of engineers and scientists, Israel is at the forefront of technological advancement, with a highly skilled and educated work force and a strong commitment to research and development.
Boeing Israel: Overview

 

[Rocko]

They still hold plenty more
1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 5,554 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel.

Thats not because the arabs aren't trying.

It would help if they could mooch money and weapons like Israel.

The fact is that if Israel wannted to, they could wipe the palestinians off the face of the earth, and the palestinians can't do shit.

 

[High_Gravity]

Uzi Landau, Israeli Cabinet Minister, Slams Gilad Shalit Prisoner Swap Deal

JERUSALEM -- An Israeli Cabinet minister who voted against a landmark deal with Hamas to free a captured Israeli soldier in exchange for Palestinian prisoners denounced on Wednesday the pending swap as a "huge victory for terror."

Most Israelis support the deal, but alongside the spontaneous celebration by overjoyed Israelis eager to see the return of Sgt. Gilad Schalit, there is also a growing sense of concern that the release of convicted Palestinian killers could lead to a new round of violence against the Jewish state.

Uzi Landau, one of three ministers who voted against the deal, said the swap provides "incentive to kill Israelis and to carry out further abductions." Hawkish opposition groups warned of a new violent Palestinian uprising led by those released.

The Israeli Cabinet endorsed the deal to exchange Schalit in return for more than 1,000 Palestinian prisoners in a 26-3 vote early Wednesday. The vote came after Israel and Hamas late on Tuesday announced they had reached an agreement. Both credited Egypt with brokering the deal, which also is an important milestone for Egypt's new military rulers that took power after Hosni Mubarak's ouster.

Schalit was captured more than five years ago in a cross-border raid from Gaza and his plight has captivated Israelis.

News of the deal set off wild celebrations at a protest tent erected by Schalit's family outside Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's residence in Jerusalem. Several hundred people danced in the street and waved flags with Schalit's image.

The soldier's father, Noam, has become a well-known public figure by pushing for his son's freedom. Following the vote, he announced that he was taking down the protest tent and heading home.

But comments from Syria-based Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal that those released "will return to ... the national struggle" only stoked Israeli fears that they may pay a heavy price for the deal.

Hamas officials said Mashaal was heading to Cairo on Wednesday to finalize the details on the swap.

In Gaza, a parade-like atmosphere has prevailed since Palestinians flooded the streets on Tuesday to celebrate the deal, and more celebrations were planned later Wednesday. The plight of prisoners is equally emotional among Palestinians.

"This is great news, no doubt, and I think that the success of the deal came due to the resilience and unflinching determination of the resistance to see to it that all our demands are met," said Akram Nimr, a 52-year-old Palestinian shop owner who previously served time in an Israeli prison for belonging to the Islamic Jihad militant group.

"Israel wouldn't agree to free that many prisoners unless it was forced to," he added.

Hamas officials said that nearly all of its demands had been met and that Schalit's captors had informed the soldier that he is going to be released shortly.

Yoram Cohen, head of Israel's Shin Bet security agency, insisted that the deal only became viable after Hamas backed down from some of its key demands, including the release of top militants. He said the most prominent names, including uprising leader Marwan Barghouti, faction leader Ahmed Saadat and Hamas bombmaker Abdullah Barghouti were not included.

Saadat was convicted of planning the assassination of an Israeli Cabinet minister in 2001. Marwan Barghouti was the top local commander of Fatah, the movement of President Mahmoud Abbas, when he was arrested in 2002 and convicted of a role in deadly attacks against Israelis. He is serving multiple life terms but is widely touted as a future Palestinian president.

The dilemma in Israel over the charged deal was reflected in Wednesday's newspapers. Alongside beaming headlines reading "Gilad is Coming Home" and "Homeward Bound" were columns warning if the dire consequences.

Uzi Landau, Israeli Cabinet Minister, Slams Gilad Shalit Prisoner Swap Deal

 

[José]

Originally posted by Barry44sucks
The fact is that if Israel wannted to, they could wipe the palestinians off the face of the earth, and the palestinians can't do shit.

Be careful what you wish for...

3000 innocent american civilians were turned into hamburguer meat by a bunch of arabs with a strong resentment against the zionazi state for much less than the total extermination of the palestinian people.

 

[JStone]

Originally posted by Barry44sucks
The fact is that if Israel wannted to, they could wipe the palestinians off the face of the earth, and the palestinians can't do shit.

Be careful what you wish for...

3000 innocent american civilians were turned into hamburguer meat by a bunch of arabs with a strong resentment against the zionazi state for much less the extermination of the palestinian people.

Open a quran, dickhead

Quran 2:216: Jihâd (holy fighting in Allâh's Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allâh knows but you do not know.

 

[JStone]

Originally posted by Barry44sucks
The fact is that if Israel wannted to, they could wipe the palestinians off the face of the earth, and the palestinians can't do shit.

Be careful what you wish for...

3000 innocent american civilians were turned into hamburguer meat by a bunch of arabs with a strong resentment against the zionazi state for much less than the total extermination of the palestinian people[/].

Israel Faces a Culture of Hatred and Violence

The grisly trail of broken toys and bloodied bedclothes and carpets inside the family home led to the bodies. They lay in their own blood, all knifed to death: Ruth Fogel, the 35-year-old mother; Udi, 36, the father; their 11-year-old son, Yoav; their 4-year-old son, Elad; and Hadas, their baby.

Hadas was just three months old. Her throat had been cut by the terrorist butchers who this month broke into the Fogel home in Itamar on a remote hilltop settlement in the West Bank. Yoav was killed as he read in bed.

Their every name should be remembered. They died because they were Jews. They were victims not just of the butchers, whose foul crimes Hamas celebrated in Gaza by giving out candy to children. They were also victims of the incitements to kill a Jew that the people of Israel have to live with every day, so many of them with memories of mothers and fathers and grandmothers and grandfathers who perished in Nazi death camps.


Professor Fouad Ajami, one of the great scholars of the Middle East, put it as follows after an earlier massacre: "The suicide bomber of the Passover massacre did not descend from the sky; he walked straight out of the culture of incitement let loose on the land, a menace hovering over Israel, a great Palestinian and Arab refusal to let that country be, to cede it a place among the nations. He partook of the culture all around him—the glee [that] greets those brutal deeds of terror, the cult that rises around the martyrs and their families."

This is a culture where sermons legitimize violence in the name of Islam and have shaped generations of Arabs with what writer Eli Hertz calls "a steady diet of poison-filled propaganda." Hertz writes: "For non-Arabic speakers, it is hard to grasp just how pervasive the propaganda is in areas controlled by the Palestinian Authority and throughout the Arab world. It is omnipresent: in state-controlled media outlets, in schools and mosques, at rallies, in speeches and articles." Professor Bernard Lewis, the great academic authority on Islam, has said that if the West knew what was being said in Arabic, people would be horrified

Israel Faces a Culture of Hatred and Violence - US News and World Report

 

[Rocko]

Originally posted by Barry44sucks
The fact is that if Israel wannted to, they could wipe the palestinians off the face of the earth, and the palestinians can't do shit.

Be careful what you wish for...

3000 innocent american civilians were turned into hamburguer meat by a bunch of arabs with a strong resentment against the zionazi state for much less than the total extermination of the palestinian people.

First of all, I didn't wish for anything.

Second of all, are you a jihadist?

 

[JStone]

Originally posted by Barry44sucks
The fact is that if Israel wannted to, they could wipe the palestinians off the face of the earth, and the palestinians can't do shit.

Be careful what you wish for...

3000 innocent american civilians were turned into hamburguer meat by a bunch of arabs with a strong resentment against the zionazi state for much less than the total extermination of the palestinian people[/].

Wall Street Journal: "The Arab World's Dirty Secret".

As Israelis and Palestinians prepare to visit Washington next week to begin direct peace talks, it's worth recalling what refugees the Palestinians are—in Arab countries.

Last week, Lebanon's parliament amended a clause in a 1946 law that had been used to bar the 400,000 Palestinians living in the country from taking any but the most menial jobs. "I was born in Lebanon and I have never known Palestine," the AP quoted one 45-year-old Palestinian who works as a cab driver. "We want to live like Lebanese. We are human beings and we need civil rights."

The dirty little secret of the Arab world is that it has consistently treated Palestinians living in its midst with contempt and often violence. In 1970, Jordan expelled thousands of Palestinian militants after Yasser Arafat attempted a coup against King Hussein. In 1991, Kuwait expelled some 400,000 Palestinians working in the country as punishment for Arafat's support for Saddam Hussein in the first Gulf War.

For six decades, Palestinians have been forced by Arab governments to live in often squalid conditions so that they could serve as propaganda tools against Israel, even as millions of refugees elsewhere have been repatriated and absorbed by their host countries. This month's vote still falls short of giving Palestinian Lebanese the rights they deserve, including citizenship. But it's a reminder of the cynicism of so much Arab pro-Palestinian propaganda, and the credulity of those who fall for it.

The Huffington Riposte: WHO ARE THE GREATEST PERSECUTORS OF THE PALESTINIANS? NOT ISRAEL, IT IS THE REST OF THE ARAB WORLD

British Muslims For Israel: SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT

Here at BMFI, we do not believe the Arab-Israeli conflict is a war over land or religion, but it is a clash of ideas. Israel, as a Western liberal democracy, extends equal rights to all of its citizens, regardless of religion or race. Muslims have more rights in Israel than in any other country in the Middle East.

While Egypt guns down Sudanese refugees fleeing the murderous oppression of their government, Israel gives them home and shelter; while Lebanon denies Palestinian refugees access to healthcare, Israel provides emergency treatment for the residents of the West Bank and Gaza strip; while Syria keeps the Palestinians in refugee camps and sporadically slaughters them, Israel offered full citizenship to all its Palestinians after the Arab states attempted to destroy Israel and slaughter its Holocaust survivors in 1948.

British Muslims for Israel

Washington Post: Why Palestinians Want To Be Israelis

One of the givens of the Middle East peace process is that Palestinians are eager to be free of rule by Israel and to live in a state of their own. That's why a new poll of the Arabs of East Jerusalem is striking: It shows that more of those people actually would prefer to be citizens of Israel than of a Palestinian state.

The awkward fact is that the 270,000 Arabs who live in East Jerusalem may not be very enthusiastic about joining Palestine. The survey, which was designed and supervised by former State Department Middle East researcher David Pollock, found that only 30 percent said they would prefer to be citizens of Palestine in a two-state solution, while 35 percent said they would choose Israeli citizenship. (The rest said they didn't know or refused to answer.) Forty percent said they would consider moving to another neighborhood in order to become a citizen of Israel rather than Palestine, and 54 percent said that if their neighborhood were assigned to Israel, they would not move to Palestine.


The reasons for these attitudes are pretty understandable, even healthy. Arabs say they prefer Israel's jobs, schools, health care and welfare benefits to those of a Palestinian state -- and their nationalism is not strong enough for them to set aside these advantages in order to live in an Arab country.

PostPartisan - Why Palestinians want to be Israeli citizens