Get used to Robert Mueller. He's not going away!

Trump supporters: I know you're not happy with Robert Mueller poking around in Donald Trump's affairs, and those of his family and associates. I also know you think this is a witch hunt, and a Liberal conspiracy to smear the Trump White House, but there are 2 things you'd better start warming up to:

1. Robert Mueller was appointed by Rob Rosenstein a lifelong Republican appointed to his position by President George W Bush. Mr. Rosenstein found probable cause that Russia did indeed meddle in our election in 2016, and judged that a special counsel was warranted, so please....stop crying Liberal which hunt, it doesn't make any sense.

2. You folks didn't have any problems with special counsels when one was appointed to poke around in Bill Clinton's dealings with Whitewater real estate, and this investigation led them to the Monica Lewinski scandal that got Bill Clinton impeached.

Special counsels are a fact of life for Presidents, and if your golden boy is as squeaky clean as he claims, then there is nothing to worry about. So, put your big boy pants on and get used to Robert Mueller. He's not going away!
:bye1:

Rod Rosenstein’s Political Affiliation: Is He a Republican or a Democrat?
/——-/ Shouldn’t you be posting Tick Tock Tick Tock right about now? Bwhahahaha Bwhahahaha
 
Mueller wrote that the Trump campaign "expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts"

And 135 pages out of the 199 page "Russia section" was blacked out
 
So, he conspired to conspire to obstruct justice which he was unable to do. Is this right?

No.

We also know that at the very least Trump attempted to and conspired to Obstruct Justice. The only thing that kept that effort from being successful was the fact that Trump's people refused to go along with his illegal demands. He has replaced most of those people with people who WILL accede to his demands.

THAT is troubling on its own
 
So, he conspired to conspire to obstruct justice which he was unable to do. Is this right?

No.

We also know that at the very least Trump attempted to and conspired to Obstruct Justice. The only thing that kept that effort from being successful was the fact that Trump's people refused to go along with his illegal demands. He has replaced most of those people with people who WILL accede to his demands.

THAT is troubling on its own
And you're basing this on your mastery of jures prudence no doubt. Now, a little lie down and some CNN and we''ll be better in no time.
 
You apper to be clueless to the simple fact that Russia has been meddling in our politics since Joseph Stalin

How many Candidates for President have accepted meetings with Russians who claim to have dirt on their opponent? Yeah it's not a crime to take that meeting but it sure as hell was not a very patriotic thing to do.
Schiff for brains took a phone call from some Russians and asked for some dirt they had on Trump. The call was a prank, but Schiff thought it was real.

Schiff was not a candidate for president. But as good a butwhatabout as you've got I guess!
So it's legal for a member of Congress to do what it's illegal for a president to do? Is that really what you're saying?
 
So, he conspired to conspire to obstruct justice which he was unable to do. Is this right?

No.

We also know that at the very least Trump attempted to and conspired to Obstruct Justice. The only thing that kept that effort from being successful was the fact that Trump's people refused to go along with his illegal demands. He has replaced most of those people with people who WILL accede to his demands.

THAT is troubling on its own

Delusional!
Delusion definition and meaning | Collins English Dictionary
 
You apper to be clueless to the simple fact that Russia has been meddling in our politics since Joseph Stalin

How many Candidates for President have accepted meetings with Russians who claim to have dirt on their opponent? Yeah it's not a crime to take that meeting but it sure as hell was not a very patriotic thing to do.
Schiff for brains took a phone call from some Russians and asked for some dirt they had on Trump. The call was a prank, but Schiff thought it was real.

Schiff was not a candidate for president. But as good a butwhatabout as you've got I guess!
So it's legal for a member of Congress to do what it's illegal for a president to do? Is that really what you're saying?

Trumpybear was not the President when they arranged that meeting with the Russians. I already said it's not a crime, but it's just not the thing an American Patriot would do, imo.
 
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Robert Mueller 2019...

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You apper to be clueless to the simple fact that Russia has been meddling in our politics since Joseph Stalin

How many Candidates for President have accepted meetings with Russians who claim to have dirt on their opponent? Yeah it's not a crime to take that meeting but it sure as hell was not a very patriotic thing to do.
Schiff for brains took a phone call from some Russians and asked for some dirt they had on Trump. The call was a prank, but Schiff thought it was real.

Schiff was not a candidate for president. But as good a butwhatabout as you've got I guess!
So it's legal for a member of Congress to do what it's illegal for a president to do? Is that really what you're saying?

Trumpybear was not the President when they arranged that meeting with the Russians. I already said it's not a crime, but it's just not the thing an American Patriot would do, imo.
Puhleeze. You imagine Hillary didn't do exactly the same thing?
 
How many Candidates for President have accepted meetings with Russians who claim to have dirt on their opponent? Yeah it's not a crime to take that meeting but it sure as hell was not a very patriotic thing to do.
Schiff for brains took a phone call from some Russians and asked for some dirt they had on Trump. The call was a prank, but Schiff thought it was real.

Schiff was not a candidate for president. But as good a butwhatabout as you've got I guess!
So it's legal for a member of Congress to do what it's illegal for a president to do? Is that really what you're saying?

Trumpybear was not the President when they arranged that meeting with the Russians. I already said it's not a crime, but it's just not the thing an American Patriot would do, imo.
Puhleeze. You imagine Hillary didn't do exactly the same thing?

Hahahaha I bet she'd testify under oath, again.
 
On this topic. Would one, or more, of you on the left please tell us exactly what the Russians did that impacted our election? Give us the details. Where were votes changed? How many? How did they do it?

If your claim is that leaking the proof of corruption within and between the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and the media changed the outcome, fine. Now tell us why the voters were not entitled to know those facts. Next prove that wikileaks got the info from the Russians.

post those proofs, then we can talk. Until then------------------------------------------

No one knows what Russia did or might have done to have impacted the election, so most patriotic Americans - which excludes you and the other Trumpanzees - want to know if the Trump Administration colluded with a foreign power in an effort to effect the outcome of our last general election.

Thus, what needs to be thoroughly investigated and determined is if Treason was afoot or that justice was obstructed; what was done, when, where and by and for whom. Then and only then can an indictment and/or impeachment occur.

That is the American way, no one but a neo fascists or a biddable fool would chant "lock her/them up" without probative evidence; such evidence which is necessary and sufficient to take someone before a trier of fact.
The coup plotters in the Obama administration committed all the treason, not Trump They are the ones who need to be investigated. they are the ones who tried to overthrow a lawfully elected president.

You idiot.

Treason:

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

Sedition:

"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

Sedition
 
Mueller wrote that the Trump campaign "expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts"

And 135 pages out of the 199 page "Russia section" was blacked out
Hmmm, so? Last I heard, that wan't a crime.
 
On this topic. Would one, or more, of you on the left please tell us exactly what the Russians did that impacted our election? Give us the details. Where were votes changed? How many? How did they do it?

If your claim is that leaking the proof of corruption within and between the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and the media changed the outcome, fine. Now tell us why the voters were not entitled to know those facts. Next prove that wikileaks got the info from the Russians.

post those proofs, then we can talk. Until then------------------------------------------

No one knows what Russia did or might have done to have impacted the election, so most patriotic Americans - which excludes you and the other Trumpanzees - want to know if the Trump Administration colluded with a foreign power in an effort to effect the outcome of our last general election.

Thus, what needs to be thoroughly investigated and determined is if Treason was afoot or that justice was obstructed; what was done, when, where and by and for whom. Then and only then can an indictment and/or impeachment occur.

That is the American way, no one but a neo fascists or a biddable fool would chant "lock her/them up" without probative evidence; such evidence which is necessary and sufficient to take someone before a trier of fact.
The coup plotters in the Obama administration committed all the treason, not Trump They are the ones who need to be investigated. they are the ones who tried to overthrow a lawfully elected president.

You idiot.

Treason:

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

Sedition:

"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

Sedition
So how does what they did not meet that definition?
 
You apper to be clueless to the simple fact that Russia has been meddling in our politics since Joseph Stalin

How many Candidates for President have accepted meetings with Russians who claim to have dirt on their opponent? Yeah it's not a crime to take that meeting but it sure as hell was not a very patriotic thing to do.
Schiff for brains took a phone call from some Russians and asked for some dirt they had on Trump. The call was a prank, but Schiff thought it was real.

Schiff was not a candidate for president. But as good a butwhatabout as you've got I guess!
So it's legal for a member of Congress to do what it's illegal for a president to do? Is that really what you're saying?

Trumpybear was not the President when they arranged that meeting with the Russians. I already said it's not a crime, but it's just not the thing an American Patriot would do, imo.
Sure it is. Hillary did things that were far worse, like paying bimbos to smear Trump.
 
On this topic. Would one, or more, of you on the left please tell us exactly what the Russians did that impacted our election? Give us the details. Where were votes changed? How many? How did they do it?

If your claim is that leaking the proof of corruption within and between the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and the media changed the outcome, fine. Now tell us why the voters were not entitled to know those facts. Next prove that wikileaks got the info from the Russians.

post those proofs, then we can talk. Until then---------------------

---------------------[/QUOTE] Where were votes changed? How many? How did they do it?

The division they put and amplified between Bernie voters and Clinton voters, through their face book ads, their bots and trolls on various social media, their fake Americans organizing rallies in contentious States,

the fake news stories they planted, on the same day of the wikileak emails, pushing false narratives about the emails....and then pushing this fake news through social media and the right wing media and Bernie following media and blogs..

As example, in May of 2016, after Hillary already had technically won, in the delegates but also in the popular vote where Bernie could no longer catch her,

workers at the DNC, were bitching about it
and creating among themselves things they could do to get Bernie to concede the win...which was wrong in a way...

But these workers also knew the facts, and the facts were, Bernie could no longer win, there was no chance of him catching up,

AND most importantly, the longer the Primary winner has to campaign before the convention and prepare for the battle in the election process against the opponent, the better the chance of the candidate winning the election, and in getting the two DNC camps together....to heal...

What the Russians did, was release a News Story about these emails among DNC workers and implied they took place the previous year, and these workers were trying to hurt Bernie early on in the primary, and claimed the DNC was back stabbing Bernie all along and on and on and on and on and on....causing and amplifying division in the Democratic campaigns... this lead to some chaos at their convention, some of the Bernie camp walking out, wasserman resigning....

AND, Bernie voters come election time sat home, and did not vote, or voted for a third party candidate, and some may have even voted for Trump to keep Hillary from getting the job they hated her so much at this point.

So the emails were accurate, but the propaganda put out by the Russians and, their right wing allies in the media that spread it, along with the bots, trolls and faux American bloggers planted in the Bernie Camp side too, was fake news, a little bit of truth with a whole lot of false narratives and spin.

And yes, knowing how the DNC worked behind the scenes was both boring and interesting, but it was also personal and their private doings so, that part makes it wrong for me to read them....they were ILLEGALLY GOTTEN...does THAT not mean something to you?



AND in addition to that, it was an unfair situation, we did NOT get to see all of the emails of Manafort and Kelly Ann like those of Podestas and we did not get to see the turmoil going on in the RNC with Trump leading the primaries and the division in the RNC and their thoughts on it.

THIS MADE THE PLAYING FIELD unlevel, unfair, PERIOD.

So if the Russians had released the emails of the RNC and the campaign managers of Trump,

THEN AND ONLY THEN, would the public had been fully informed.

And these things are only a smidgen of what the Russians did!!!! :eek:
the division is amplified cause you keep eating the hate sandwiches and believing the other side is out to get you.
 
Countries have been trying to influence elections in other countries for over 2000 years. The USA has been very good at it. Its not a criminal act.

but as to Russia and 2016. Putin would much have preferred Hillary who he had all kinds of dirt on and could easily blackmail into doing exactly what he wanted over Trump who he could not control.

the whole Russia influence BS is nothing but the butthurt dems and their media cronies trying to overturn a legitimate election where crooked Hillary lost.
 
On this topic. Would one, or more, of you on the left please tell us exactly what the Russians did that impacted our election? Give us the details. Where were votes changed? How many? How did they do it?

If your claim is that leaking the proof of corruption within and between the Hillary campaign, the DNC, and the media changed the outcome, fine. Now tell us why the voters were not entitled to know those facts. Next prove that wikileaks got the info from the Russians.

post those proofs, then we can talk. Until then------------------------------------------

No one knows what Russia did or might have done to have impacted the election, so most patriotic Americans - which excludes you and the other Trumpanzees - want to know if the Trump Administration colluded with a foreign power in an effort to effect the outcome of our last general election.

Thus, what needs to be thoroughly investigated and determined is if Treason was afoot or that justice was obstructed; what was done, when, where and by and for whom. Then and only then can an indictment and/or impeachment occur.

That is the American way, no one but a neo fascists or a biddable fool would chant "lock her/them up" without probative evidence; such evidence which is necessary and sufficient to take someone before a trier of fact.
The coup plotters in the Obama administration committed all the treason, not Trump They are the ones who need to be investigated. they are the ones who tried to overthrow a lawfully elected president.

You idiot.

Treason:

"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."

18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason

Sedition:

"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

Sedition
/----/ democRATs losing their precious Independent voters. Keep up the good work.
Pollster says there is a shift in independent voters' views of Mueller probe
"It's the independents in the middle that right now are breaking in favor of the president, [and] largely accept [Attorney General William] Barr's memo and his conclusions," he said.
 

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