Get ready folks, The shit is about to hit the fan, big time

i think this is only a warning.
France-Germany-Britain talks ongoing.
Achmadinajad saying so to strengthen his position in talks.
 
The Islamic countries in question surly can not be Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Jordan or Egypt therefore we are left with Syria, Lebanon (only if Hezballah has more power), Iraq

I think Iran is indirectly giving a warning that if pushed it has the ability to push very strongly through Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.

also Iran is telling its neighboring countries that it is in their national interest to establish a closer (mutually beneficial) tie with Iran and at the same time it is telling the western world that Iran has the ability to make things very uncomfortable for them if they push Iran too far.


NEW YORK and UN was the perfect theatre stage for them to say so, that whole world hears this.
 
canavar said:
The Islamic countries in question surly can not be Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Jordan or Egypt therefore we are left with Syria, Lebanon (only if Hezballah has more power), Iraq

I think Iran is indirectly giving a warning that if pushed it has the ability to push very strongly through Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.

also Iran is telling its neighboring countries that it is in their national interest to establish a closer (mutually beneficial) tie with Iran and at the same time it is telling the western world that Iran has the ability to make things very uncomfortable for them if they push Iran too far.


NEW YORK and UN was the perfect theatre stage for them to say so, that whole world hears this.

The US can make things very much more uncomfortable for Iran if pushed too far, too. And we can outdo Iran by over 1000 times.

We not only have more nuclear weapons than they ever hope to have, we have more powerful nuclear weapons and the weapons systems to deliver them to their targets with pinpoint precision...... The mullahs of Iran have... what.... some old outdated missiles that we can knock down out of the sky with little effort.

Remember the 1991 Iraq war? Remember Saddam Hussein's SCUD missiles and how the American Patriot missile made them fall out of the sky like dead ducks? Well, the Patriot was an old piece of technology then, you can imagine what the American arsenal has in it now. And we have strategic missiles, still, sitting somewhere out in the middle of our country that are just waiting to be fired off.

Remember the Stealth Bomber, the black bomber that can't be seen on radar? Its was originally intended for delivering nuclear weapons to their targets.... the Cold War ended only a year or two after they were deployed. By the time the mullahs figure out one of those suckers is coming, they'll be face to face with one of their promised 72 virgins (in hell).

I wouldn't put too much stock in the mullahs of Tehran and whatever half baked technology they have. If we wanted to, we could make Iran a nuclear wasteland with nothing left there except the scorpions and not set a foot in the country.

We could target their cities, their military bases and rain down a hail storm of death that hasn't been seen since the beginning of time. If they honestly believe that they can go toe to toe with America, they have a horrible lesson coming to them.
 
The under the table money and promises must be flying around at warp speed. I wonder what else is getting getting passed around THIS time.
 
dilloduck said:
The under the table money and promises must be flying around at warp speed. I wonder what else is getting getting passed around THIS time.
Hey, look for the silver lining, if they could, they would take out Israel. Thus the deserving Palis will have their well deserved homeland. All will be well. No more bin Laden, no more Mid-East conflicts. Right?
 
If I were an enemy of the US I would push for everything I could get now and rely on the liberals and the media to prevent any retaliation by screaming "spend money fixing America first, not a dime for defense".
 
Kathianne said:
Hey, look for the silver lining, if they could, they would take out Israel. Thus the deserving Palis will have their well deserved homeland. All will be well. No more bin Laden, no more Mid-East conflicts. Right?

See there Kathianne you have solved the terrorist dilemna, it was so simple :tng:
 
Kathianne said:
Hey, look for the silver lining, if they could, they would take out Israel. Thus the deserving Palis will have their well deserved homeland. All will be well. No more bin Laden, no more Mid-East conflicts. Right?

You mean so it could be abandoned and mostly barren desert like it was before they suddenly fell in love with it?
 
Kathianne said:
Hey, look for the silver lining, if they could, they would take out Israel. Thus the deserving Palis will have their well deserved homeland. All will be well. No more bin Laden, no more Mid-East conflicts. Right?

There will be conflicts over the mideast forever even IF it's radioactive and glows in the dark. It's a holy place for two religions who hate each other.
 
dilloduck said:
just the facts don't you think?

Fact or no, it's damned-DUMB reason to risk global warfare. Unless of course one thrives on spreading hate-n-discontent and don't care how many people die for stupid, fanatical, backwards-assed religious beliefs.
 
GunnyL said:
Fact or no, it's damned-DUMB reason to risk global warfare. Unless of course one thrives on spreading hate-n-discontent and don't care how many people die for stupid, fanatical, backwards-assed religious beliefs.

Extremism is ESPECIALLY dangerous both sides are so inclined. Aristotles' Golden Mean may be more important than history has given it credit for.
 
dilloduck said:
Extremism is ESPECIALLY dangerous both sides are so inclined. Aristotles' Golden Mean may be more important than history has given it credit for.

I don't see the extremism on both sides. I see a Nation trying to defend itself against a bunch of religious fanatics who are not only willing to kill anyone-or-thing that opposes their views, but themselves as well. THAT is the prevailing menace.
 
KarlMarx said:
The US can make things very much more uncomfortable for Iran if pushed too far, too. And we can outdo Iran by over 1000 times.

We not only have more nuclear weapons than they ever hope to have, we have more powerful nuclear weapons and the weapons systems to deliver them to their targets with pinpoint precision...... The mullahs of Iran have... what.... some old outdated missiles that we can knock down out of the sky with little effort.

Remember the 1991 Iraq war? Remember Saddam Hussein's SCUD missiles and how the American Patriot missile made them fall out of the sky like dead ducks? Well, the Patriot was an old piece of technology then, you can imagine what the American arsenal has in it now. And we have strategic missiles, still, sitting somewhere out in the middle of our country that are just waiting to be fired off.

Remember the Stealth Bomber, the black bomber that can't be seen on radar? Its was originally intended for delivering nuclear weapons to their targets.... the Cold War ended only a year or two after they were deployed. By the time the mullahs figure out one of those suckers is coming, they'll be face to face with one of their promised 72 virgins (in hell).

I wouldn't put too much stock in the mullahs of Tehran and whatever half baked technology they have. If we wanted to, we could make Iran a nuclear wasteland with nothing left there except the scorpions and not set a foot in the country.

We could target their cities, their military bases and rain down a hail storm of death that hasn't been seen since the beginning of time. If they honestly believe that they can go toe to toe with America, they have a horrible lesson coming to them.


yes, USA has more technologies and abilities to destroy IRAN by air. this is right.
But you are in your thinking too far steps ahead.

Because first USA does anything it does via UN security council.
And there you have China and Russia.
It is unlikely IRAQ. In Iraq russians had won concessions for oil fields, Saddam owe Russians many money.

In Iran russians are not only Ressources partner, but technology and weapons-trade partners. Russians have much to loose.
So it is with China. Chinese investing much for Resource from Iran.
When this issue come to UN Security Council China + Russia will VETO.
They are behind Mullah-Regime.

IRAN will worry our heads in near future very much.
But when it comes to war with IRAN it will be a non-UN legitimated war (China+Russia), based on coalition of the willing, again.
And there you have also India which is not in UN-Scurity council but have good ties with Iran, too because of oil.




please read this. Imagine the money the russians are making of the mullahs, that they are saying this.

Iran reminds West has allies against U.N. push

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Iran's top nuclear official, upbeat after a Moscow visit, reminded the West on Monday that Tehran had powerful allies opposed to referring its suspected atomic weapons programme to the U.N. Security Council.


The European Union and the United States want the Security Council to take up Iran's case after Tehran resumed uranium processing last month, effectively halting talks aimed at curbing its nuclear ambitions.

But Iran's Atomic Energy Organisation head Gholamreza Aghazadeh said the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which currently monitors Tehran's nuclear programme, had no reasons to get the Security Council involved.

"Based on IAEA criteria, there are no technical or judicial grounds for the referral of the Iranian dossier to the U.N. Security Council," he told reporters in Moscow after a series of meetings with senior Russian officials.

"A number of countries including Russia have voiced their reluctance to refer the Iranian nuclear dossier to the U.N. Security Council."

While calling on Iran to halt uranium conversion, Russia -- a permanent Council member with a veto to block any move against Iran -- opposes a referral and calls for more diplomacy to settle the impasse.

The United States, Britain, China and France are the other permanent members who wield vetoes on the Security Council.

EU officials and the United States have been trying to win the support of other IAEA board members such as China, India and South Africa, which are reluctant to send Iran to the Council.

EU diplomats have said more than half a dozen countries on the IAEA's 35-nation governing board, which meets on September 19, believe there is no justification for a referral.

Moscow has been long criticised by Washington for building a $1 billion (549 million pounds) nuclear power plant for Iran near the southern port of Bushehr, due to be launched next year.

Iran denies U.S. accusations it is seeking nuclear bombs and says it is entitled to a peaceful nuclear electricity programme.


http://home.eircom.net/content/reuters/worldnews/6289516?view=Eircomnet5
 

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