gergis et al is withdrawn

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    the Gergis paper is gone. the Mannian like hockey stick study has been refuted. its too bad that we cant go back and get rid of more of the hockey stick travesties that have been published over the past 15 years. with every data set that gets put into public access, and every methodology that is forced to be explained, the warmists' position gets weaker and weaker.
     
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    It's amazing how fast the crickets arrive when this sort of thing happens.
     
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    the distortion of scientific principles has allowed climate science to drain the banked esteem of science in the public's opinion. but it is still better to lance the boil rather than let it continue to fester.
     
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    What are the loons babbling about? The Gergis paper was never published, only addressed a possible southern hemisphere hockey stick, and was withdrawn for more work back in June. It was a pretty ho-hum matter, showing that peer review worked. It takes one crazy diseased mind to define it as a conspiracy.

    It's like denalists have this secret moron code that no normal human can decipher. I'm sure it makes sense to them, but why should anyone care about it? Sure, monkeys manage to communicate with each other, but should we care what they say?
     
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    :lol::lol: Oh, gee that stung!:lol::lol: Funny how when the paper was released to the press you guys were all over it. Now that it's been shown to be deeply flawed you shrug your shoulders and say ho hum....so which is it.....monkey.
     
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    you cant be serious! it passed peer review only to be slaughtered in web review.

    what's more, the weaknesses in Gergis are present in a whole lot of other climate science papers.
     
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    Ian -- way too diplomatic with the "......in a whole lot of other climate science papers."

    I'd say MOST that get press release attention and ALL that get top billing by the IPCC...

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    perhaps....

    but I have never changed anybody's mind by telling them they are full of shit. the only way for people to change is by thinking about the subject. sometimes the best method is by asking someone to defend what they think is an obvious truth, and hopefully they find out it is definitely not obvious and maybe not the truth.
     
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    Interesting. When a real researcher thinks that there may have been a problem with data or processing and withdraws it for correction, priot to publication, you denialists claim dishonesty. Yet when an undegreed ex-TV weatherman publishes lie after proven lie, you say not a word. Intellectual honesty is not a strong point with you fellows.

    There have been more than a dozen scientific studies from many nations now that support the Mann graph. You just cannot lie that away.



    NOAA Paleoclimatology Program - Gergis et al. 2012 Australasia 1000 Year Ensemble Temperature Reconstructions

    Evidence of unusual late 20th century warming from an Australasian temperature reconstruction spanning the last millennium

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    An issue has been identified in the processing of the data used in the study, "Evidence of unusual late 20th century warming from an Australasian temperature reconstruction spanning the last millennium" by Joelle Gergis, Raphael Neukom, Stephen Phipps, Ailie Gallant and David Karoly, accepted for publication in the Journal of Climate.

    The authors are currently reviewing the data and methods. The revised paper will be re-submitted to the Journal of Climate by the end of July and it will be sent out for peer review again.
     

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