George Friedman on Egypt

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    Juan Cole includes the following post on Informed Comment 1/29/11:

    "Nobelist in chemistry, Dr. Ahmed Zewail of the California Institute of Technology, is an Egyptian-American who has sometimes been mentioned as a candidate for president of Egypt. He has served as a science envoy to the Arab world of President Obama.

    "In an interview on Aljazeera Arabic, Zewail called for fundamental change in Egypt, not just cosmetic alterations. He gave as the causes for the current uprising:

    "1. Power games among the elite, competition over the succession to President Hosni Mubarak, lack of transparency and phony elections.

    "2. The economic situation: the masses of the poor have been left behind, the situation of the middle class has actually gone backward, while a small elite at the top benefits from what economic progress there is– because of a marriage of power and capital.

    "3. Corruption and constant demands for bribes by officials.

    "4. Education: The deterioration of the education system, which is central to every Egyptian household’s hopes of progress, to a state that does not in any way reflect Egypt’s standing in the world."

    Class war comes to Cairo too, it seems.

    What would happen if Americans demanding Wall Street prosecutions took to the streets in the same numbers as Egyptians?

    Change and Hope?
     
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    What kind of Bullshit are you trying to solicit Dip Shit. You want to know how burning Rioting and looting end up? Let me buy you a one way ticket to Cairo or Tehran, you stupid Fuck. ;) Have a nice day. Maybe you can find a better pastime than inciting Chaos you Stupid piece of Shit. You are in the Minority here, out numbered 100 to 1 at best, Moron.
     
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    Do you remember the American people once protested in the streets the oppressive powers of a dictator?
     
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    yea .nothing really earth shaking here, many have said as much over the last few days.

    Power shifts over time and when it does lots of folks run around like its never happened before, or is some super catalclysmic event. Mubarak is old, hes reached that 30 year tenure that speaks to a new generation in the making, camp david is almost ancient history now.


    its only that we are in the moment that makes this any different than history as it rolls on...


    A new political map in the ME is shaking out......maybe we have advanced to 1934.

    My one live in interesting times.....;)
     
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    It is very earth shaking.

    I jsut think it will be for the better in the end.

    I believe in democracy.

    These people have seen their power in reality now.

    They will not stand for any dictator now.

    Any Islamic takeover will have to face the rath of these people who now know they CAN push a dictator out.
     
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    How much more Wall Street are you prepared to swallow, Bitch?

    "Why has the Egyptian state lost its legitimacy?

    "Max Weber distinguished between power and authority. Power flows from the barrel of a gun, and the Egyptian state still has plenty of those.

    "But Weber defines authority as the likelihood that a command will be obeyed.

    "Leaders who have authority do not have to shoot people. The Mubarak regime has had to shoot over 100 people in the past few days, and wound more.

    "Literally hundreds of thousands of people have ignored Mubarak’s command that they observe night time curfews.

    "He has lost his authority."

    So have you.

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    Cole....for god sakes....
     

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