Genocide and THE THANKSGIVING MYTH

[mikegriffith1]

Hey, I'm all for ceding New England back to the Indians. Democrats control all of the New England states. If they truly cared about justice and fairness, they would turn the New England region back over to the Indians.

 

[idb]

WOW, you never take a break even for a Holiday.

Progressives just can't let anyone have one days peace without their garbage. it's constant day and day out. they must really hate all of you in this country

Historical fact is garbage? can't you ever post anything intelligent or debate .

Ooo...ooo...can I answer that please?

 

[RoshanNair]

Its the cycle of life. Given the demographics, eventually the Hispanics are going to genocide the Whites in the coming decades. I look forward to learning Spanish to try and pick up some beauty Latinas, purrrrrrrrr.

 

[Agit8r]

Of course puritan society was not much different from Soviet Russia, but yeee-har, let's stuff our pie-holes!

 

[fncceo]

accounts of the first Thanksgiving are mythological, and that the holiday is actually a grotesque celebration of our arrogant ethnocentrism built on genocide.

Yawwwwnnnnn!

 

[fncceo]

In point of fact, so-called 'Native' Americans are immigrants as well... having schlepped across the ice age land bridge from Asia.

 

[whitehall]

The actual Thanksgiving holiday has only been around since 1870. Why do anti-American (mostly) left wingers want to punish God fearing people who have celebrated the holiday for 150 years because the Brits abused the Indians? Lefties never have a nice day.

 

[rupol2000]

In fact, Americans are Native Americans. European colonists live only on the East Coast. This is the crowding out of the Indians is myth. There were no "Indians" on the Great Plains

 

[rupol2000]

This is absolutely the same situation as in the Russian Federation with the Golden Horde, Sarmatians, Huns, and so on. The Bolsheviks invented that they were driven out and native Russians live everywhere, they even tried to represent part of the steppe as a forest zone. But now the facts surfaced that the Muscovites began active immigration only in the 20th century, and the Huns did not disappear.

 

[rupol2000]

The same thing happened with the Sami, who are called Finns in Russia. To the north of Moscow, mainly Sami peoples lived, and it was previously believed that the bulk of them also disappeared (although some of the nationalities have remained to this day). But in fact, so far they are even a little assimilated, in the north of the European part of Russia, haplogroup N is in places about 100%

 

[Pellinore]

Golly, zombie thread. Please, nobody listen to the OP.

The Mayflower landed in November of 1620, and during that first winter, half of the Pilgrims froze, starved, and died because they didn't know or have time to plant crops in that soil. They met and became friends with two local Natives, Samoset and Tisquantum, who introduced them to the Wampanoag Chief Massasoit. The area had been previously mapped and visited by fishermen for years (Tisquantum spoke fluent English), and the Natives had been devastated by European-introduced diseases to which they had no natural immunity, so the two colonies really needed each other. The following year, with the Natives' help, the colonists grew successful, bountiful crops, and in the autumn of 1621, they shared a massive three-day feast with the Wampanoag, which became the basis of the Thanksgiving tradition.

Governor Bradford and Massasoit became lifelong friends for more than thirty years; even as later European colonies settled the area and vicious, violent actions (such as the Pequot War) went on around them, their friendship endured and the colonies remained faithful to each other, even though they came from utter tragedies and completely alien backgrounds. Most of the history of Europeans and Natives is a cavalcade of horror and bloodshed, but Plymouth Plantation is an exception to that; it was, by all accounts, the ideal of how European-Native relations should be. It is worth celebrating.

There had been irregular and unofficial Thanksgiving celebrations since then, but the holiday itself didn't come into being until right after the Civil War. Our current Thanksgiving was established by Lincoln, and then signed into being by President Grant in 1870. People associated them with Plymouth as a matter of tradition, possibly because the two first-person accounts of Plymouth ("On Plymouth Plantation" and "Moult's Relation") had only recently been printed. Those traditions evolved over time, and here we are.

Happy Thanksgiving, folks.