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[Xenimus]

Funny guy! woha/

Why do you think Im radical? I've studied our founding fathers writings. The radical middle? I consider myself jeffersonian.
What have i said that makes me radical.?

I have some clues for you on whos radical btw

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by DKSuddeth
whoa, what founding documents prove that our country was founded on god being our authority?

Do we want a different thread for that one?

 

[DKSuddeth]

Originally posted by NewGuy

Do we want a different thread for that one?

not necessary since you raised the point in this one. If it gets too intense I can move it to one.

 

[Xenimus]

Originally posted by Sir Evil
Hmmm, I think your previous beings provided the answer as well as your confusion on who the real problem is in this war.

So, who would you like to clue me in about being a radical?

What are you speaking of? Im not sure. I think one problem is the 'rumsfeld doctrine'. Its fast and cheap, but in this case waaay too cheap.

There is a certain 'thought virus' in the United States that is extremely disturbing, but im sure you know nothing about it.

Pre emption is radical, and unconstitutional. Debt spending is radical, and has been traditionally used by leaders to cut funding to the commons and cut the net the middle class is held up by.

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by DKSuddeth
not necessary since you raised the point in this one. If it gets too intense I can move it to one.

From:
The Articles of Confederation
Agreed to by Congress November 15, 1777; ratified and in force, March 1, 1781.

And Whereas it hath pleased the Great Governor of the World to incline the hearts of the legislatures we respectively represent in Congress, to approve of, and to authorize us to ratify the said Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union. Know Ye that we the undersigned delegates, by virtue of the power and authority to us given for that purpose, do by these presents, in the name and in behalf of our respective constituents, fully and entirely ratify and confirm each and every of the said Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union, and all and singular the matters and things therein contained: And we do further solemnly plight and engage the faith of our respective constituents, that they shall abide by the determinations of the United States in Congress assembled, on all questions, which by the said Confederation are submitted to them. And that the Articles thereof shall be inviolably observed by the States we respectively represent, and that the Union shall be perpetual.

Want more?

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by Xenimus

There is a certain 'thought virus' in the United States that is extremely disturbing, but im sure you know nothing about it.

I do. It is called socialism. It appears you know all about it.

Pre emption is radical, and unconstitutional. Debt spending is radical, and has been traditionally used by leaders to cut funding to the commons and cut the net the middle class is held up by.

Socialism fixes this right?

 

[DKSuddeth]

I am guessing this is the line you are referring to:

And Whereas it hath pleased the Great Governor of the World

as showing that our nation was founded and based on the christian god?

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by DKSuddeth
I am guessing this is the line you are referring to:



as showing that our nation was founded and based on the christian god?

No. That was the first step.

This would undeniably prove the AUTHORITY above our Constitution is believed to be God as you had questioned.

NOW you are questioning WHICH God.

 

[DKSuddeth]

Originally posted by NewGuy
No. That was the first step.

This would undeniably prove the AUTHORITY above our Constitution is believed to be God as you had questioned.

NOW you are questioning WHICH God.

actually no. but it makes me think that the founding fathers strongly believed in the PERSONAL relationship with god instead of 'christian' beliefs. That combined with Washtington's quote of the nation not being founded on a christian merit.

 

[Annie]

actually no. but it makes me think that the founding fathers strongly believed in the PERSONAL relationship with god instead of 'christian' beliefs. That combined with Washtington's quote of the nation not being founded on a christian merit. posted by DKSuddeth

I agree with you DK. Many of founders were Deists. Not quite sure how they differed from agnosticism, other than they did think, 'something' was out there. Not necessarily Christian.

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by DKSuddeth
actually no. but it makes me think that the founding fathers strongly believed in the PERSONAL relationship with god instead of 'christian' beliefs. That combined with Washtington's quote of the nation not being founded on a christian merit.

This was your question:

whoa, what founding documents prove that our country was founded on god being our authority?

I GAVE you one.

What part is wrong with my assumption here?

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by DKSuddeth
actually no. but it makes me think that the founding fathers strongly believed in the PERSONAL relationship with god instead of 'christian' beliefs. That combined with Washtington's quote of the nation not being founded on a christian merit.

Fine:
July 4, 1776
The Unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united* States of America.

When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the Separation.

Note: SINGULAR GOD.

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness --

NOTE: SINGULAR GOD.

If they were deists, the only argument could be they were COLLECTIVELY DEISTS believing in the SAME God.

There are not a whole lot of options left.

Should we go further?

 

[DKSuddeth]

Originally posted by NewGuy
This was your question:



I GAVE you one.

What part is wrong with my assumption here?

the NO, was in reference to your statement of me asking which god.

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by DKSuddeth
the NO, was in reference to your statement of me asking which god.

Gotcha!

 

[Xenimus]

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness --
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NOTE: SINGULAR GOD.

NewGuy

It says THEIR Creator. They are not going to put their own religion into it. Were trying to be simple. They dont want to impose their religion on our goverment like the christians are today. We were warned of this, as shown in bold in my sig.





Ok, back to subject.

The reason we need to be part of the outside authorities, it will encourage other nations to do so, allowing our troops to have higher percent chance of NOT being tortured in future wars.
Protecting our Troops is #1.
Its kinda weak when there are maybe 2 congressmen that have children going to war. And the current admin is not composed of war veterans or have children going into this perpetual war.

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by Xenimus
We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness --
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NewGuy

It says THEIR Creator. They are not going to put their own religion into it. Were trying to be simple. They dont want to impose their religion on our goverment like the christians are today. We were warned of this, as shown in bold in my sig.

Absolutely wrong.

Government cannot be in favor of nor against any religion. The morality of the foundation of government FAITH, however, is in no doubt.

Every reference proves no American dictation of belief systems, but the morality is engraved and the SPIRIT is the Christian faith morality.

Religious ACTION is different as are the laws. -Neither may be imposed.

The reason we need to be part of the outside authorities, it will encourage other nations to do so, allowing our troops to have higher percent chance of NOT being tortured in future wars.
Protecting our Troops is #1.

So what? It is illegal. Rules are rules, not suggestions.

Its kinda weak when there are maybe 2 congressmen that have children going to war. And the current admin is not composed of war veterans or have children going into this perpetual war.

No relevancy whatsoever on Constitutional law.

 

[Xenimus]

Your version of our republic is very disturbing brother. Would probly be more at home in a dictatorship.

After all, you seem to believe in some sort of christian connection to this government.

Does not mix well with democracy, christianity is AUTHORITARIAN>

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by Xenimus
Your version of our republic is very disturbing brother. Would probly be more at home in a dictatorship.

After all, you seem to believe in some sort of christian connection to this government.

Does not mix well with democracy, christianity is AUTHORITARIAN>

Prove me wrong.

 

[Xenimus]

Lol, you actually think your version of christianity is ENGRAVED in our founding ideals!!
The founding fathers morality, I assure you, did not focus on one perticular religion, expecially YOURS!

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by Xenimus
Lol, you actually think your version of christianity is ENGRAVED in our founding ideals!!
The founding fathers morality, I assure you, did not focus on one perticular religion, expecially YOURS!

Prove me wrong.