Gen. McChrystal allies, Rolling Stone disagree over article's ground rules

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    Gen. McChrystal allies, Rolling Stone disagree over article's ground rules

    Thoughts USMB? Did he say it off-the-record? Even if it was, should of he had said it?
     
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    Not sure what you're asking in the second part of the question.

    To the first part. No , you have to actively say "this is off the record" to a reporter. Stupid of his staff or whomever to just assume it was off the record

    Now on the second part, are you asking

    A) should the comments been made?
    B) should off the record have been requested?
    C) Should the reporter have reported the comments?

    A) No, not even off the record
    B) Obviously
    C) Sure he should have reported what he overheard if the military was dumb enough to let him hear it.
     
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    A better question is why would McChrystal agree to allow a Rolling Stone reporter to spend four weeks in his entourage? Why choose a reporter from a magazine so lefty and then bitch that an unflattering portrait was drawn when you are a military man?

    I think McChrystal hoped the article would blacken Obama's directives on the war and force a change McChrystal wanted badly enough to roll the dice. But here's the rub: no one elected McChrystal President. Ditacting policy ain't his job. Carrying it out was, and if he felt he could not do so, resignation -- not blabbering to a reporter -- was the honorable remedy. This nation does not ever, ever ever need a military man to come to believe he is more powerful than the President.

    I am no history buff, but didn't MacArthur pull this very same stunt on Truman over the Korean War?


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    Look, the man risked his life for the US for years on yonks, in really tough stuff.

    I salute you General for that.

    But fuck me, a military man embedding Rolling Stone?

    Fuck me.

    You just don't get the big picture.
     
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    Yes he did, in fact he probably kept the crazy bastard from dropping an atomic weapon on Korea. So sometimes mrs madeline even the President should shut up and listen to his military advisers.

    Dude was still an idiot for doing a piece with Rolling Stone though.
     
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    Journalism and war have a lot in common, the question anyone must ask is who is the editor and what are they trying to win?

    You have to go to philosophy for truth.

    News and war are dancing for the stars.
     
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    He probably thought the RS guy could get him drugs.

    I'm so glad Obama fired his ass. The topics on the Sunday shows are going to be all about this.
     
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    There's no such thing as "off the record"

    Reporting isn't a game like tag.

    There's no time outs, there's no alli alli infrees, there's no free base

    The General knew that.

    It's foolish to imagine otherwise.

    The General choose to end his career with a splash.

    Perhaps, he thought he was throwing himself on a sword to save the nation.

    Perhaps his motives more more selfish than that.

    But to imagine that the Rolling Stone betrayed him is preposterous.
     
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    You're fucking pathetic. Politics aside the man is a genuine war hero. You know he hasn't been home for more than 30 days in a year in the last 9 wins? What have you sacrificed so for the flag that guarantees your right to say stupid shit like he probably wanted drugs?

    You ignorant ****.
     
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    I don't know about that. I think what happened is he got caught being naive. We're talking about a SF guy that isn't used to being around the media. One would think a General would know better, but obviously not.
     

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