GE Guts Offshore Wind-Power Plans

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    GE Guts Offshore Wind-Power Plans
    Forbes ^ | 9/10/2011 @ 2:44AM | William Pentland


    General Electric, the U.S.-based industrial giant and leading manufacturer of wind-power turbines, is scaling back efforts to expand its presence in the offshore wind power market.

    The rationale: there is no meaningful offshore wind market to speak of – at least not yet.

    Given slower-than-expected industry growth, the offshore market may not mature as rapidly as many wind boosters once believed.



    The 4.1-113 four MW direct-drive offshore turbine developed by GE in Norway performs very well in shallow waters, but leaves a lot to be desired in deeper waters. As a result, GE has shifted its focus in the deep-water space to developing a 10-15 MW turbine using superconducting magnets, which has received addition funding support from the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE).

    Despite GE’s strategic shift, plans to deploy the first 4.1 MW prototype in Gothenberg harbor later this year are still on track.

    (Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...
    GE Guts Offshore Wind-Power Plans - Forbes
     
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    Yeah subsidized so that the taxpayers can foot the bill. Is this going be in China? If so why isn't the messiah jimmeh carter redux come out and condone it(yeah made in America..job speech anybody)?

    This is another touchy feely liberal solution that gov't doesn't create deman: cash for clungers, census worker jobs...bankrupt solar panel companies.
    Unintended consequences ..priceless.

    wind energy is an eye sore and not a reliable on demand 24/7 power source
     
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    You mean the government doesn't subsudize coal, natural gas, and oil. And then there is nuclear.

    We need additional power. Simple fact. We don't need additional GHGs, nor more lead and mercury in the bodies of our children. Wind, geothermal, solar, and many of the other non polluting sources are the way to go for the future.

    But most of all, we need a distributed grid. The present grid is far to fragile, and not designed to pick up the many sources of power available.
     
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    Wind , solar and electric cars are inefficient and are not what we need now and as I stated they are not 24/7 on demand power supply which you seem not to grasp. Those are pet projects(w/o tax subsidies) down the road. We need a consistent power supply 24/7 in the present, otherwise we will produce a 1/3rd of gas/petro products and pay 2/3rd to other nations as in money leaving our shore supporting other nations wealth.

    Mercury, what do you think is in those curly cue light bulbs?
     
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    Same stuff that has been in flourescents for years.

    Geothermal is 24-7, as is solar thermal. Highest use of power is in the daytime, so solar is an excellent source of supply during that time. Wind is blowing somewhere in the US 24-7, it is primarily the lack of a grid where the power sources are at present that is the problem. Plus the fact that our three grids are not interconnected.
     
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    Geothermal is a dirty mining operation with large eco consequences. It's blessed solely out of hate for fossil fuels. But has a larger risk of eco damage and drilling footprint than fracking for gas or drilling for oil. Also is NOT renewable in the sense that corrosion takes out the turbines and piping -- hopefully after the current hole "cools out" and requires a new drill.. "Millions of degrees baby" -- (Al Gore).

    What else ya got on the "alternatives" list today? Maybe a fresh "wild caught" biomass boiler?

    Wind is blowing somewhere? But just not today where you spent $50M on a turbine farm.

    Reminds of "It's 5 o'clock somewhere" by Jimmy Buffett.
     
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    How about drilling yellowstone and using the energy from that sucker. :eusa_pray: There is a amazing amount of power under that to tap.
     
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    they work, buy a clue if you cannot find one eh?
     
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    What's the timing on "old faithful"? 40 minutes or so? Maybe we could reduce that to just 3shows a day!I had a picture somewhere of a blowout around a geothermal drill site somewhere. Literally a circle of toxic waste and destruction.. I'll have to go find that for Old Rocks.. Green as a toad's ass..

    How about a couple notes on Geothermal..

    Puna Geothermal Blowout | Blowout Shuts Geothermal Unit in Hawaii - Los Angeles Times


    Minister urges calm after geothermal well blowout, Chile, Electric Power, news


    Geothermal Well Blowout 1998 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
     
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    Oh c'mon eco-nauts..

    You take all the adult discussion out this with constant hit n' run assertions for "alternatives".. Beat up on wind and you post Geothermal. Beat up on geothermal and you post solar. How long is this charade gonna continue?

    Let's calmly assess WHERE alternatives fit in and what ELSE has to be done to make energy "Plentiful and Cheap"..
    Or more importantly -- LIST the alternatives instead of pretending there's a long list of viable options just waiting for more subsidies.
     

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