Gaza towards self-suffiency?

[P F Tinmore]

“Whatever became of the settlement lands? Such lost opportunities! The land has returned and what waste”, we hear time and again from Zionist apologists and their kind. “If only Gazans would make a life for themselves rather than blaming their problems on others!”

In the former Gush Qatif bloc, further south, infinite rows of several varieties of date palms and young olive saplings, both rain-fed crops that do very well in Gaza, dot the horizon as far as the eye can see.

In another section of this vast empty expanse is the “fruit garden”: carefully landscaped donums of a variety of fruit trees, marked with signs by each row, such as mangoes, citrus, apples, and stone fruits. Gaza now relies heavily on imported fruits from Israel, as tens of thousands of its own trees were razed to the ground during the second Intifada, and most recently during Cast Lead. “We hope within 3 years, for these trees to begin to bear fruit, and within 5, for the olives and dates to become productive,” explained my guide.

Gaza Mom » Gaza; settlements; Israel; Hamas; agriculture

 

[kvetch]

insh'allah, tinnie

gaza has a great opportunity to be the phoenix rising from the evil ashes of cast lead

but thay have to deal with the crazy loons of "islamic" jihad and their own self destructive instincts

 

[P F Tinmore]

I think in many ways the people in Gaza are better off than the people in the West Bank.

 

[MJB12741]

Are you nuts? You are thinking like a Zionist. Haven't you heard the news? Gaza is the concentration camp Israel put the Palestinians into.

I think in many ways the people in Gaza are better off than the people in the West Bank.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Are you nuts? You are thinking like a Zionist. Haven't you heard the news? Gaza is the concentration camp Israel put the Palestinians into.

I think in many ways the people in Gaza are better off than the people in the West Bank.

So is the West Bank, in some cases worse than Gaza.

Do you have a point?

 

[SAYIT]

Are you nuts? You are thinking like a Zionist. Haven't you heard the news? Gaza is the concentration camp Israel put the Palestinians into.

I think in many ways the people in Gaza are better off than the people in the West Bank.

So is the West Bank, in some cases worse than Gaza.

Do you have a point?

Perhaps that the "Palestinian's" Arab neighbors should loosen up their stranglehold, eh?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Are you nuts? You are thinking like a Zionist. Haven't you heard the news? Gaza is the concentration camp Israel put the Palestinians into.

I think in many ways the people in Gaza are better off than the people in the West Bank.

So is the West Bank, in some cases worse than Gaza.

Do you have a point?

Why is the West Bank worse off than Gaza? They aren't shooting missiles, nor being bombarded by Israel in response. If you are for Palestinian rights, you should be supporting their statehood bid, so that Israeli troops can leave the West Bank. Instead you glorify the crazy Gazans. Those are very nice fields in Gaza. Finally, they're doing something a little normal, and not just shooting missiles. By the way, if Netanyahu loses the election by a miracle, and Livni or Olmert offers the Palestinians a state on the West Bank to end this ongoing nonsense once and for all, would you accept that?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Are you nuts? You are thinking like a Zionist. Haven't you heard the news? Gaza is the concentration camp Israel put the Palestinians into.

So is the West Bank, in some cases worse than Gaza.

Do you have a point?

Perhaps that the "Palestinian's" Arab neighbors should loosen up their stranglehold, eh?

That is one area where Gaza is better. The West Bank has no Arab neighbors. The only way in or out is to go through Israel.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

So is the West Bank, in some cases worse than Gaza.

Do you have a point?

Perhaps that the "Palestinian's" Arab neighbors should loosen up their stranglehold, eh?

That is one area where Gaza is better. The West Bank has no Arab neighbors. The only way in or out is to go through Israel.

Jordan is a neighbor of the West Bank.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Perhaps that the "Palestinian's" Arab neighbors should loosen up their stranglehold, eh?

That is one area where Gaza is better. The West Bank has no Arab neighbors. The only way in or out is to go through Israel.

Jordan is a neighbor of the West Bank.

Only after going through Israeli checkpoints.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Are you nuts? You are thinking like a Zionist. Haven't you heard the news? Gaza is the concentration camp Israel put the Palestinians into.

So is the West Bank, in some cases worse than Gaza.

Do you have a point?

Why is the West Bank worse off than Gaza? They aren't shooting missiles, nor being bombarded by Israel in response. If you are for Palestinian rights, you should be supporting their statehood bid, so that Israeli troops can leave the West Bank. Instead you glorify the crazy Gazans. Those are very nice fields in Gaza. Finally, they're doing something a little normal, and not just shooting missiles. By the way, if Netanyahu loses the election by a miracle, and Livni or Olmert offers the Palestinians a state on the West Bank to end this ongoing nonsense once and for all, would you accept that?

Please answer this question.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

You have to remember that most West Bank settlers are from Brooklyn. My Israeli cousins would gladly leave the West Bank, if there were adequate security.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Are you nuts? You are thinking like a Zionist. Haven't you heard the news? Gaza is the concentration camp Israel put the Palestinians into.

So is the West Bank, in some cases worse than Gaza.

Do you have a point?

Why is the West Bank worse off than Gaza? They aren't shooting missiles, nor being bombarded by Israel in response. If you are for Palestinian rights, you should be supporting their statehood bid, so that Israeli troops can leave the West Bank. Instead you glorify the crazy Gazans. Those are very nice fields in Gaza. Finally, they're doing something a little normal, and not just shooting missiles. By the way, if Netanyahu loses the election by a miracle, and Livni or Olmert offers the Palestinians a state on the West Bank to end this ongoing nonsense once and for all, would you accept that?

Israel will never offer the Palestinians a state worth having.

The West Bank has hundreds of checkpoints. Gaza has none.

The West Bank has Israeli troops walking the streets. Not so in Gaza.

When Israel invades Gaza it is met with bombs and bullets. Abbas rolls out the red carpet.

And much more.

 

[irosie91]

much more what tinnie----you have just demonstrated that Israel shoots into gaza becaue Israel does not enjoy those baby brain smashing bombs that you and sherri so love.


and you say the people on the west bank aka judea----do not shoot and do not get shot at .. I see a trend here

 

[irosie91]

That is one area where Gaza is better. The West Bank has no Arab neighbors. The only way in or out is to go through Israel.

Jordan is a neighbor of the West Bank.

Only after going through Israeli checkpoints.

That's terrible----there should be a ONE WAY---exit from the west bank to Jordan. It should be up to the JORDANIAN SECURITY to check the sluts for ass bombs

 

[ForeverYoung436]

So is the West Bank, in some cases worse than Gaza.

Do you have a point?

Why is the West Bank worse off than Gaza? They aren't shooting missiles, nor being bombarded by Israel in response. If you are for Palestinian rights, you should be supporting their statehood bid, so that Israeli troops can leave the West Bank. Instead you glorify the crazy Gazans. Those are very nice fields in Gaza. Finally, they're doing something a little normal, and not just shooting missiles. By the way, if Netanyahu loses the election by a miracle, and Livni or Olmert offers the Palestinians a state on the West Bank to end this ongoing nonsense once and for all, would you accept that?

Israel will never offer the Palestinians a state worth having.

The West Bank has hundreds of checkpoints. Gaza has none.

The West Bank has Israeli troops walking the streets. Not so in Gaza.

When Israel invades Gaza it is met with bombs and bullets. Abbas rolls out the red carpet.

And much more.

Well, obviously I was talking about an independent state without troops and checkpoints.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Why is the West Bank worse off than Gaza? They aren't shooting missiles, nor being bombarded by Israel in response. If you are for Palestinian rights, you should be supporting their statehood bid, so that Israeli troops can leave the West Bank. Instead you glorify the crazy Gazans. Those are very nice fields in Gaza. Finally, they're doing something a little normal, and not just shooting missiles. By the way, if Netanyahu loses the election by a miracle, and Livni or Olmert offers the Palestinians a state on the West Bank to end this ongoing nonsense once and for all, would you accept that?

Israel will never offer the Palestinians a state worth having.

The West Bank has hundreds of checkpoints. Gaza has none.

The West Bank has Israeli troops walking the streets. Not so in Gaza.

When Israel invades Gaza it is met with bombs and bullets. Abbas rolls out the red carpet.

And much more.

Well, obviously I was talking about an independent state without troops and checkpoints.

No chance. Israel will never recognize a Palestinian state.

I don't believe in the "a state" theory anyway.

 

[irosie91]

does anyone wonder what happened in Gaza 1948--1967?

 

[irosie91]

No chance. Israel will never recognize a Palestinian state.

I don't believe in the "a state" theory anyway.

what is the "a state" theory?

 

[P F Tinmore]

what is the "a state" theory?

The people who believe in "a state" are mostly old people who also believe in Oslo. They usually hang around Ramallah. Fatah and the PLO dominate this group. They believe that if they surrender to Israel then Israel will allow them to have "a state."

Then there is the "rights" group. They are mostly young. They believe in the right to freedom, the right to justice, and the right to return. They think Oslo is bad and that negotiations with Israel is a waste of time. Surrendering to Israel is out of the question.

"A state" according to what Israel wants is of no interest to them.