Gas powered Solar Energy

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    In the latest scam involving Solar Power a dark secret is found. Solar Plants will be powered with Natural gas.

    Imagine, we get to pay more money for Green Energy but the dark secret is that energy will be coming from Natural Gas.

    What will prevent these large solar projects from simply providing all their energy from cheaper natural gas.

    Either way, Solar is going to produce more green house gas than nuclear or even a natural gas powered plant, Solar is now Natural Gas powered.

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    Call me a wingnut, go figure, I could not make this stuff up if I wanted to.

    It would be nice to know how much of our electricity from Solar is actually going to come from natural gas. This project looks like it may be insignificant, but who knows, money and profit is a powerful force, not to mention everyone will want these projects to look good on the books. That is the governement will pressure these Solar Companies to "Succeed", the more profit they make in the subsidized electrical market of California, the better. Good things there will be feed in tariffs charged to us customers as well.

    So this project has two natural gas boilers to provide back up, you cannot have an Energy Contract with the local utility if you can not produce energy thus we see Natural Gas boilers designed into Solar power plants. All the CO2 of lets say, a Natural Gas fired plant, plus the added benifit of destroying miles and miles of protected desert.

    Even the natural gas pipeline is going to have a diesel pump.

    Solar energy is useless, I bet you that the water the Solar plant uses will be pumped in with diesel powered pumps.

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    This is old news, but it's irony has not been lost.
     
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    Irony? The use of supplementary power, from whatever source, to even out the power is a reasonable proposition.

    Now calling you a wingnut, MDN, is an insult to wingnuts. Most are not as technically stupid as you are.
     
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    I had not seen this before, talk about being slow.

    How can we honestly call one of these plants Solar when their ability to produce electricity from Natural gas is a 1,000:1
     
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    Just the tiny fraction of the Sun's energy that hits the Earth (around a hundredth of a millionth of a percent) is enough to meet all our power needs many times over.In fact, every minute, enough energy arrives at the Earth to meet our demands for a whole year - if only we could harness it properly..
     
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    How much energy is used priming the pump compared to the amount of energy that the solar plants actually produces?

    Do you know?

    If not them are you truly qualified to have an opinion?
     
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    And if only that were true.
     
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    That is true, and amazingly enough according to the climate alarmists out there the sun has a minimal impact on the planets climate!:eek:
     
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    This also allows the plant to keep working at night, allowing it to be considerd a base load provider (at probably a reduced wattage).

    Natural gas plants are perferred as they are as close to "push-button start" as you can get, compared to coal/oil/nuclear.

    I still would like to see a plant use the stored hydraulic energy approach, where they use a portion of the solar power to pump water to a higher elevation, and use the water flowing to a lower elevation during clouds/night.
     

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