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Majority opinion has nothing to do about what is true and what is false, or what is right and what is wrong. Libertarianism is rooted in the notion that human beings are flawed and corruptable. If they were not, libertarian thought would be completely unnecessary. It just takes a little extra thought to understand libertarianism, and most appear to be accustomed to catchy soundbites.As a college student, my professor questioned me one day, asking about my views. I told her I was a libertarian, which she generalized as fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I accept her definition (despite my many reservations about it). She then told me that a very large number of students nowadays have similar inclinations. They don't fit the stereotypical mold at all.
So to say libertarians are a nonentity is a bit off base, to say the least. I would say libertarians are the silent majority.
I would say that is laughable. Libertarian sounds kewl until you actually are presented with real world problems and flawed human beings.
For example, In last night's Libertarian thread, we learned that Libertarians would support the migration of 300 million, or more, third world shithole citizens from Mexico and Central America flooding our borders and squating down, turning us too into a third world shithole.
There is nothing majority opinion about that, and this is just one example of why Libertarian philosophy manifests itself as a sad joke in actual application.
I believe historically college students have been quite liberal with more socialist tendencies, not in any way capitalists. Even with that said, Libertarians do not believe that everything must be accomplished on a person-to-person basis without any third party interference. Unfortunately, as one grows older, it appears they are more susceptible to misconceptions as well.As a college student, my professor questioned me one day, asking about my views. I told her I was a libertarian, which she generalized as fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I accept her definition (despite my many reservations about it). She then told me that a very large number of students nowadays have similar inclinations. They don't fit the stereotypical mold at all.
So to say libertarians are a nonentity is a bit off base, to say the least. I would say libertarians are the silent majority.
Everybody has libertarian leanings when they're college students. It's the result of limited life experiences. When I was in college, I thought Ayn Rand was cool! Usually though, as one grows older, one realizes that, like Marxism, in order for Libertarianism to work a basic shift in human nature would have to occur. Marxists expect everyone to work for the greater good, ignoring the fact that most humans will do very little work at all, if not rewarded appropriately for the work they do. Libertarians, on the other hand, expect most transactions to be accomplished on a person-to-person basis without outside interference, forgetting that inevitably a certain percentage of the strong will take advantage of the weak creating a neo-feudalistic society in which many are powerless to better themselves in any significant manner.
Majority opinion has nothing to do about what is true and what is false, or what is right and what is wrong. Libertarianism is rooted in the notion that human beings are flawed and corruptable. If they were not, libertarian thought would be completely unnecessary. It just takes a little extra thought to understand libertarianism, and most appear to be accustomed to catchy soundbites.As a college student, my professor questioned me one day, asking about my views. I told her I was a libertarian, which she generalized as fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I accept her definition (despite my many reservations about it). She then told me that a very large number of students nowadays have similar inclinations. They don't fit the stereotypical mold at all.
So to say libertarians are a nonentity is a bit off base, to say the least. I would say libertarians are the silent majority.
I would say that is laughable. Libertarian sounds kewl until you actually are presented with real world problems and flawed human beings.
For example, In last night's Libertarian thread, we learned that Libertarians would support the migration of 300 million, or more, third world shithole citizens from Mexico and Central America flooding our borders and squating down, turning us too into a third world shithole.
There is nothing majority opinion about that, and this is just one example of why Libertarian philosophy manifests itself as a sad joke in actual application.
I would venture to guess that alot of the nonvoters in this country have Libertarian inclinations. They are marginalized by the two party system, and rather than make a protest vote they just stay home on election day.
Just about everybody has libertarian inclinations. Nobody likes being told what to do all the time. Most of us realize, however, without rules the strong can easily take advantage of the weak and no amount of Libertarian Party platitudes to the contrary is going to change that.
Majority opinion has nothing to do about what is true and what is false, or what is right and what is wrong. Libertarianism is rooted in the notion that human beings are flawed and corruptable. If they were not, libertarian thought would be completely unnecessary. It just takes a little extra thought to understand libertarianism, and most appear to be accustomed to catchy soundbites.As a college student, my professor questioned me one day, asking about my views. I told her I was a libertarian, which she generalized as fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I accept her definition (despite my many reservations about it). She then told me that a very large number of students nowadays have similar inclinations. They don't fit the stereotypical mold at all.
So to say libertarians are a nonentity is a bit off base, to say the least. I would say libertarians are the silent majority.
I would say that is laughable. Libertarian sounds kewl until you actually are presented with real world problems and flawed human beings.
For example, In last night's Libertarian thread, we learned that Libertarians would support the migration of 300 million, or more, third world shithole citizens from Mexico and Central America flooding our borders and squating down, turning us too into a third world shithole.
There is nothing majority opinion about that, and this is just one example of why Libertarian philosophy manifests itself as a sad joke in actual application.
Are some of you implying one must ALWAYS vote for one of the two major party candidates?
Why?
The very essence of libertarianism is to be uninvolved and unorganized; indeed, to attempt to establish any type of libertarian hierarchy would immediately bring an end to the movement.
Are some of you implying one must ALWAYS vote for one of the two major party candidates?
Why?
No, but the problem is far too many Americans lack the conviction to do the hard work needed to create actual alternatives.
It will take a long time to do, likely decades, and must begin at the very local level electing dogcatchers and the like. Any viable third party must invest the time and effort to cultivate a viable pool of candidate to draw from for local, state, and National elections.
This top down approach with the likes of Johnson and Paul will never work.
Gary Johson won over one million votes in the Presidential election, the most ever by the Libertarian party. Congrats Gary!!
I believe historically college students have been quite liberal with more socialist tendencies, not in any way capitalists. Even with that said, Libertarians do not believe that everything must be accomplished on a person-to-person basis without any third party interference. Unfortunately, as one grows older, it appears they are more susceptible to misconceptions as well.As a college student, my professor questioned me one day, asking about my views. I told her I was a libertarian, which she generalized as fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I accept her definition (despite my many reservations about it). She then told me that a very large number of students nowadays have similar inclinations. They don't fit the stereotypical mold at all.
So to say libertarians are a nonentity is a bit off base, to say the least. I would say libertarians are the silent majority.
Everybody has libertarian leanings when they're college students. It's the result of limited life experiences. When I was in college, I thought Ayn Rand was cool! Usually though, as one grows older, one realizes that, like Marxism, in order for Libertarianism to work a basic shift in human nature would have to occur. Marxists expect everyone to work for the greater good, ignoring the fact that most humans will do very little work at all, if not rewarded appropriately for the work they do. Libertarians, on the other hand, expect most transactions to be accomplished on a person-to-person basis without outside interference, forgetting that inevitably a certain percentage of the strong will take advantage of the weak creating a neo-feudalistic society in which many are powerless to better themselves in any significant manner.
In the context of the way the current system is set up and the limitation put on third parties, 1% is not unimpressive. If you also factor in the amount of money spent by Johnson vs Obama and Romney, Gary got far more bang for his buck than the others.As a college student, my professor questioned me one day, asking about my views. I told her I was a libertarian, which she generalized as fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I accept her definition (despite my many reservations about it). She then told me that a very large number of students nowadays have similar inclinations. They don't fit the stereotypical mold at all.
So to say libertarians are a nonentity is a bit off base, to say the least. I would say libertarians are the silent majority.
Who managed to pull one percent of the vote
I am unimpressed
Majority opinion has nothing to do about what is true and what is false, or what is right and what is wrong. Libertarianism is rooted in the notion that human beings are flawed and corruptable. If they were not, libertarian thought would be completely unnecessary. It just takes a little extra thought to understand libertarianism, and most appear to be accustomed to catchy soundbites.As a college student, my professor questioned me one day, asking about my views. I told her I was a libertarian, which she generalized as fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I accept her definition (despite my many reservations about it). She then told me that a very large number of students nowadays have similar inclinations. They don't fit the stereotypical mold at all.
So to say libertarians are a nonentity is a bit off base, to say the least. I would say libertarians are the silent majority.
I would say that is laughable. Libertarian sounds kewl until you actually are presented with real world problems and flawed human beings.
For example, In last night's Libertarian thread, we learned that Libertarians would support the migration of 300 million, or more, third world shithole citizens from Mexico and Central America flooding our borders and squating down, turning us too into a third world shithole.
There is nothing majority opinion about that, and this is just one example of why Libertarian philosophy manifests itself as a sad joke in actual application.
Gary Johson won over one million votes in the Presidential election, the most ever by the Libertarian party.
Congrats Gary!!
Majority opinion has nothing to do about what is true and what is false, or what is right and what is wrong. Libertarianism is rooted in the notion that human beings are flawed and corruptable. If they were not, libertarian thought would be completely unnecessary. It just takes a little extra thought to understand libertarianism, and most appear to be accustomed to catchy soundbites.I would say that is laughable. Libertarian sounds kewl until you actually are presented with real world problems and flawed human beings.
For example, In last night's Libertarian thread, we learned that Libertarians would support the migration of 300 million, or more, third world shithole citizens from Mexico and Central America flooding our borders and squating down, turning us too into a third world shithole.
There is nothing majority opinion about that, and this is just one example of why Libertarian philosophy manifests itself as a sad joke in actual application.
And nothing's going to change that, hence my contention that for libertarianism to work a basic shift in human nature is required. IMO, it ain't happenin' soon.
Majority opinion has nothing to do about what is true and what is false, or what is right and what is wrong. Libertarianism is rooted in the notion that human beings are flawed and corruptable. If they were not, libertarian thought would be completely unnecessary. It just takes a little extra thought to understand libertarianism, and most appear to be accustomed to catchy soundbites.
And nothing's going to change that, hence my contention that for libertarianism to work a basic shift in human nature is required. IMO, it ain't happenin' soon.
Basic shifts in human nature are only going to happen if we're forced to make that shift. The government does its best to assure that no one has to make any drastic shift in how they view life and humanity.
Simply putting libertarian principles to work would in itself force human nature to shift and adapt. Libertarians just happen to believe that is for the best. There will be pain, but there's going to be pain with anything. The belief is that the pain would be short lived.
Majority opinion has nothing to do about what is true and what is false, or what is right and what is wrong. Libertarianism is rooted in the notion that human beings are flawed and corruptable. If they were not, libertarian thought would be completely unnecessary. It just takes a little extra thought to understand libertarianism, and most appear to be accustomed to catchy soundbites.
And nothing's going to change that, hence my contention that for libertarianism to work a basic shift in human nature is required. IMO, it ain't happenin' soon.
Basic shifts in human nature are only going to happen if we're forced to make that shift. The government does its best to assure that no one has to make any drastic shift in how they view life and humanity.
Simply putting libertarian principles to work would in itself force human nature to shift and adapt. Libertarians just happen to believe that is for the best. There will be pain, but there's going to be pain with anything. The belief is that the pain would be short lived.
And nothing's going to change that, hence my contention that for libertarianism to work a basic shift in human nature is required. IMO, it ain't happenin' soon.
Basic shifts in human nature are only going to happen if we're forced to make that shift. The government does its best to assure that no one has to make any drastic shift in how they view life and humanity.
Simply putting libertarian principles to work would in itself force human nature to shift and adapt. Libertarians just happen to believe that is for the best. There will be pain, but there's going to be pain with anything. The belief is that the pain would be short lived.
Change is painful. That is why when there is a crisis of any kind it is a golden time for change because people are already experiencing change. I think this translates into waiting till the system goes into crisis mode once again to strike. Currently, the fiscal path is unsustainable, any fool can see that.
So who will be blamed? Can you say, PROGRESSIVES!!???
Wasn't he the funny kid in 'Different Strokes'?
