GAO says healkthcazre reform is starting to effect peoples insurance premiums

[Vel]

Go shop for a better insurance provider if yours is overcharging you guys.

You know, free market

You mean a free market like being able to shop for insurance across state lines? That might allow me to find a lower priced policy but alas...

 

[Truthmatters]

And we all knows corporations would NEVER gouge their customers and try to bully our government with threats.


Do any of you on the right remember how much the industry was raising the rates BEFORE this reform?

 

[Conservative]

Go shop for a better insurance provider if yours is overcharging you guys.

You know, free market

You mean a free market like being able to shop for insurance across state lines? That might allow me to find a lower priced policy but alas...

What ever happened to 'if you like your current provider, you can keep them', and 'your rates will not go up one dime'???

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

got nothing huh?

just flat out lies

Ha, you want proof? This is what ObamaCare, aka RomneyCare, does in practice.

In Mass., Health Insurance Rates Continue Sharp Rise | WBUR <---- rates went up in 2010
http://www.mass.gov/Eeohhs2/docs/dhcfp/r/cost_trends_files/part2_premium_levels_and_trends.pdf <---- rates went up

Health Insurance Premiums Continue to Rise Under RomneyCare - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine <---blog


The facts are that ObamaCare, as we have learned from the left and those like pawlenty on the right, is just a federal version of romney care. Romeny Care makes insurance cost people MORE money not less.

Facts with linked proof

And we all knows corporations would NEVER gouge their customers and try to bully our government with threats.


Do any of you on the right remember how much the industry was raising the rates BEFORE this reform?

in 2008, prior to the passage of obamacare, the rates increased 4.4 % U.S. Health Care Costs: Background Brief - KaiserEDU.org, Health Policy Education from the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

In 2009 they went up 7 percent
in 2010 they went up 10 percent

These figures are in the links from my previous post which i requoted for you.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

And we all knows corporations would NEVER gouge their customers and try to bully our government with threats.


Do any of you on the right remember how much the industry was raising the rates BEFORE this reform?

It's fun watching you try to spin gold out of shit.

In effect what you're saying is, Yes, rates will go up under Obamacare, but we stopped them from going up MORE.

 

[OODA_Loop]

My premiums just went up more percentage wise than anytime in 30 years.

 

[Claudette]

Mine went up as well.

Anyone buying their own insurance saw theirs go up. OReilly says his went up in the thousands for his family. I'm sure its the same for anyone else buying their own.

Yep. Obamacare is gonna be a winner for America.

Sure hope the SC kicks this lemon to the curb.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

GAO: New rules leading to lower healthcare premiums, cuts to agents' fees - The Hill's Healthwatch

Where's my 2,500% saving from switching to ObamaCare?

 

[Conservative]

And we all knows corporations would NEVER gouge their customers and try to bully our government with threats.


Do any of you on the right remember how much the industry was raising the rates BEFORE this reform?

Apparently you do not.

Facts are your friends. You should try to use them sometime...

Medicare Actuary: Obamacare Will Triple the Growth Rate of Net Insurance Costs

the Office of the Actuary in the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services recently put out its annual projections of national health care spending. And, contrary to the President, the actuaries find that Obamacare will dramatically increase the near-term growth rate of health care costs. In 2014, the actuaries find that growth in the net cost of health insurance will increase by nearly 14 percent, compared to 3.5% if PPACA had never passed. The growth rate of private insurance costs will rise to 9.4 percent, from 5.0 percent under prior law: an 88% increase.

dip shit.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

And we all knows corporations would NEVER gouge their customers and try to bully our government with threats.


Do any of you on the right remember how much the industry was raising the rates BEFORE this reform?

Apparently you do not.

Facts are your friends. You should try to use them sometime...

Medicare Actuary: Obamacare Will Triple the Growth Rate of Net Insurance Costs

the Office of the Actuary in the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services recently put out its annual projections of national health care spending. And, contrary to the President, the actuaries find that Obamacare will dramatically increase the near-term growth rate of health care costs. In 2014, the actuaries find that growth in the net cost of health insurance will increase by nearly 14 percent, compared to 3.5% if PPACA had never passed. The growth rate of private insurance costs will rise to 9.4 percent, from 5.0 percent under prior law: an 88% increase.

dip shit.

That's going to leave a mark.

 

[Conservative]

And we all knows corporations would NEVER gouge their customers and try to bully our government with threats.


Do any of you on the right remember how much the industry was raising the rates BEFORE this reform?

Apparently you do not.

Facts are your friends. You should try to use them sometime...

Medicare Actuary: Obamacare Will Triple the Growth Rate of Net Insurance Costs

the Office of the Actuary in the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services recently put out its annual projections of national health care spending. And, contrary to the President, the actuaries find that Obamacare will dramatically increase the near-term growth rate of health care costs. In 2014, the actuaries find that growth in the net cost of health insurance will increase by nearly 14 percent, compared to 3.5% if PPACA had never passed. The growth rate of private insurance costs will rise to 9.4 percent, from 5.0 percent under prior law: an 88% increase.

dip shit.

That's going to leave a mark.

naw... I think she already ran away crying.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Apparently you do not.

Facts are your friends. You should try to use them sometime...

Medicare Actuary: Obamacare Will Triple the Growth Rate of Net Insurance Costs



dip shit.

That's going to leave a mark.

naw... I think she already ran away crying.

She's probably going to use her usual tactic of looking in from time to time, and then if someone posts something that agrees with her partisan worldview, she'll jump back in ignoring your post.

 

[syrenn]

For you cons who are complaining about your insurance premiums going up you need to go to a company that is passing this savings on to you and not pocketing it and charging you more.

ooohhhh...

Three
Whole
Company's.




What a fucking idiot you are. The whole country should use ..... three companies?

 

[syrenn]

You can shop for a better company , there are ones who are passing the savings on to customers.

If you want to keep paying more go ahead but you can no longer blamne healthcare reform for you paying more.

 

[syrenn]

Here we go again!

TRUTH MATTERS--is VERY GOOD at using LINKS IN ORDER TO DECEIVE--JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHY YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO READ THIS PERSON'S LINKS.

where did I say anything untrue here you silly git?

Did you go read the GAO report?

your very first post completely ignored your own source, which said premiums could go up.

Classic truthdoesntmatter stance.

she NEVER reads her own links. ... she reads bold type talking points

 

[J.E.D]

Speaking of morons....Where did TM say that all insurance companies have lowered premiums? Answer: TM didn't say that. Here, try reading:



Congrats, you just repeated to TM what TM already posted.

(points to TM's 1st post, and 1st comments)

GAO: New rules leading to lower healthcare premiums, cuts to agents' fees - The Hill's Healthwatch

I simply showed TM that the cited article specifically states premiums could go up. A fact he avoided in his first post.

Congrats, you just proved to the board your reading comprehension skills are on par with those of a 3 year old.

Her comprehension skill is on a par with her spelling. Unless we now have something called healkthcazre?

The internet grammar/spelling police - the last refuge of those who have no argument.

 

[J.E.D]

For you cons who are complaining about your insurance premiums going up you need to go to a company that is passing this savings on to you and not pocketing it and charging you more.

ooohhhh...

Three
Whole
Company's.




What a fucking idiot you are. The whole country should use ..... three companies?

Uh oh, you spelled that wrong. It's 'companies', not 'company's'. According to the conservative internet grammar/spelling police, your entire post should be dismissed based on that misspelled word - not the substance of it - only based on that one misspelled word.
Not that your post has any substance. Just wanted to let you know that you should look out, because the internet grammar/spelling police will be on you now. Unless they're hypocrites who only use that lame tactic when arguing with somebody they disagree with (but that never happens, right?).

 

[Conservative]

(points to TM's 1st post, and 1st comments)



I simply showed TM that the cited article specifically states premiums could go up. A fact he avoided in his first post.

Congrats, you just proved to the board your reading comprehension skills are on par with those of a 3 year old.

Her comprehension skill is on a par with her spelling. Unless we now have something called healkthcazre?

The internet grammar/spelling police - the last refuge of those who have no argument.

Repetitive stupidity (and line stealing)... the last refuge of pathetic imbeciles like JosefK.

 

[Conservative]

For you cons who are complaining about your insurance premiums going up you need to go to a company that is passing this savings on to you and not pocketing it and charging you more.

ooohhhh...

Three
Whole
Company's.




What a fucking idiot you are. The whole country should use ..... three companies?

Uh oh, you spelled that wrong. It's 'companies', not 'company's'. According to the conservative internet grammar/spelling police, your entire post should be dismissed based on that misspelled word - not the substance of it - only based on that one misspelled word.
Not that your post has any substance. Just wanted to let you know that you should look out, because the internet grammar/spelling police will be on you now. Unless they're hypocrites who only use that lame tactic when arguing with somebody they disagree with (but that never happens, right?).

someone needs a hug and a cookie

 

[California Girl]

(points to TM's 1st post, and 1st comments)



I simply showed TM that the cited article specifically states premiums could go up. A fact he avoided in his first post.

Congrats, you just proved to the board your reading comprehension skills are on par with those of a 3 year old.

Her comprehension skill is on a par with her spelling. Unless we now have something called healkthcazre?

The internet grammar/spelling police - the last refuge of those who have no argument.

When you know truthdon'tmatter as well as some of us, you will realize that mocking her inability to put together a coherent thought without assistance from some left wing bullshit internet site is about all she's worth... along with mocking her non existent basic grammar or ability to spell any word with more than 4 letters.

There is no point in providing a reasoned argument to her... she doesn't understand reason, or logic, or critical thinking... she's just a partisan hack whose intellectual capacity is roughly equivalent to a brick.