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I wonder how many Communist Party members overlap the Democrat base? Probably an equal percentage.
Really? My dad passed away in 2001 at 76 years of age. He was a life long Democrat. He was also a WWII USMC vet and a Deacon in a Southern Baptist Church. Even at 76, if you'd attempted to call him a Communist, he would have knocked you into next week.
Well, there's one. Anyone know of any others?
America self-identifies with conservatism 2-1 over liberalism (recent Gallup survey), so it's only natural that moderates would gravitate towards candidates who profess conservative ideas...
There are fringe elements in the tea party movement as well as there are fringe elements on the left... The left just has a better record of electing their fringe wakkos...
We have yet to see the influence of the tea party on congressional elections, but the MAIN message of the movement is lower taxes and less government... It's not the fringe messages that the left loves to paint the movement with...
The MAIN message would certainly resonate with a decidedly conservative-leaning America...
OMG, that a lot of Tea party members identify more with the Gop, than the Communist agenda of the Democrat party.
this HAS got to some EARTH SHATTERING shit man.
OMG, that a lot of Tea party members identify more with the Gop, than the Communist agenda of the Democrat party.
this HAS got to some EARTH SHATTERING shit man.
The truth hurts, doesn't it?
Especially when you guys have been trying to sell us on this bullshit that this is a grassroots group of non-affiliated people.
It's just not the truth.
So if the teaparty is made up of people who would have voted GOP (or against DEMs) anyways, what is the net gain?
Your only hope is that moderates buy into your message, but as it stands, you don't have a clear message.
OMG, that a lot of Tea party members identify more with the Gop, than the Communist agenda of the Democrat party.
this HAS got to some EARTH SHATTERING shit man.
The truth hurts, doesn't it?
Especially when you guys have been trying to sell us on this bullshit that this is a grassroots group of non-affiliated people.
It's just not the truth.
So if the teaparty is made up of people who would have voted GOP (or against DEMs) anyways, what is the net gain?
Your only hope is that moderates buy into your message, but as it stands, you don't have a clear message.
wooboy, now who ever said they were non-affiliated people.
I'm sure most of them VOTE. so which ever party they are affiliated with doesn't mean jack shit. except to you lefties who can't stand the fact people are AGAINST you Progressives and the commie Obama and his comrades in arms in his administration.
The truth hurts, doesn't it?
Especially when you guys have been trying to sell us on this bullshit that this is a grassroots group of non-affiliated people.
It's just not the truth.
So if the teaparty is made up of people who would have voted GOP (or against DEMs) anyways, what is the net gain?
Your only hope is that moderates buy into your message, but as it stands, you don't have a clear message.
wooboy, now who ever said they were non-affiliated people.
I'm sure most of them VOTE. so which ever party they are affiliated with doesn't mean jack shit. except to you lefties who can't stand the fact people are AGAINST you Progressives and the commie Obama and his comrades in arms in his administration.
Oh please. Plenty of people on here have tried to sell the teabagger movement as a "non-partisan, grassroots, entity".
I am glad people exercise their constitutional right to vote, whether for or against what I support.
The issue at stake here is what impact the tea party is going to have in November. I suspect that a group of conservative republicans that has simply re-labeled itself is going to turn out just about the same amount of votes in the general as they usually do. They are going to screw up the primaries for a lot of GOP candidates and some notables like Rand Paul will probably win the shooting match. However, overall, I suspect the teabaggers are going to minimize GOP gains in November.
America is conservative, whether that's center-right or any other label you want to use is irrelevant...America self-identifies with conservatism 2-1 over liberalism (recent Gallup survey), so it's only natural that moderates would gravitate towards candidates who profess conservative ideas...
There are fringe elements in the tea party movement as well as there are fringe elements on the left... The left just has a better record of electing their fringe wakkos...
We have yet to see the influence of the tea party on congressional elections, but the MAIN message of the movement is lower taxes and less government... It's not the fringe messages that the left loves to paint the movement with...
The MAIN message would certainly resonate with a decidedly conservative-leaning America...
America is center-right. Not hard right.
I completely disagree... Barry won because he convinced the moderates that he would "change" the way politics is done... I could post many campaign speeches where this was the central theme... Then there was the after-election speeches about "changing" politics as usual... Couple that with McLame being an old, inside-the-beltway, politics-as-usual type of candidate (at least that's how he came off) and you have the expected results... Nope, sorry... Change was most definitely the theme...Obviously, as the last two elections demonstrate, America is not so far right that Democrats can't win elections.
The problem with the tea party is that the message is too discombobulated. The whole decentralization theme is only going to get you guys so far. You can mock "hope and change" all you want, but that's just a campaign slogan. Obama didn't win on that.
I agree, but the tea party is not a party - it's a movement of many different thoughts and degrees of what needs to be done... The central theme needs to be stressed between now and November and if it can overcome the generalizations of the left as being mostly fringe lunatics then there will be some inroads made..Nonetheless, it's a simple message that people identify with. No one really knows what the Tea Party message is.
As it stands, the tea party has only succeeded in tossing out GOP incumbents and helping their challengers in the primary.
Like I said, I can't wait until November. We'll see if anything shakes out. I suspect the gains will be modest and the harms greater.
True...Obama won on a campaign slogan and boobs.You can mock "hope and change" all you want, but that's just a campaign slogan. Obama didn't win on that.
well only time will tell, won't it. just don't forget what happened AFTER Jimma Carter.
so If I were you lefties, I would also be HOPING the tea party is going to MINIMIZE the GOP.
Only uneducated Lefties with half a brain would characterize the TEA Party as right wing equivalent to Communists...I bet you didn't intend to characterize the Tea Partiers as the rightwing equivalent of Communists... ...but you did.I wonder how many Communist Party members overlap the Democrat base? Probably an equal percentage.
America is conservative, whether that's center-right or any other label you want to use is irrelevant...
I completely disagree... Barry won because he convinced the moderates that he would "change" the way politics is done... I could post many campaign speeches where this was the central theme... Then there was the after-election speeches about "changing" politics as usual... Couple that with McLame being an old, inside-the-beltway, politics-as-usual type of candidate (at least that's how he came off) and you have the expected results... Nope, sorry... Change was most definitely the theme...
I agree, but the tea party is not a party - it's a movement of many different thoughts and degrees of what needs to be done... The central theme needs to be stressed between now and November and if it can overcome the generalizations of the left as being mostly fringe lunatics then there will be some inroads made..
The Dems tossed Specter and now Toomey - a strong conservative is leading in the polls...
Angle is still in the lead in NV...
In other lib hotbeds across the country, some incumbent D's are no longer automatics...
We'll see, but ANY gain for conservatives is a plus in my book... Can't turn an ocean liner on a dime... Hopefully these to-be-elected R's stick to their conservative ideals....
The message that resonates with America is lower taxes and less government... It's up to the tea party to stress this between now and November... That is the case no matter what label you use...America is conservative, whether that's center-right or any other label you want to use is irrelevant...
I think it certainly is relevant. America being center-right versus hard-right is relevant in that it is going to matter if the TP message resonates with people who are not otherwise affiliated.
0bama won because people believed he would change "politics as usual"... He didn't win on "discrete policies"... Average voters don't latch on to discrete policies...I completely disagree... Barry won because he convinced the moderates that he would "change" the way politics is done... I could post many campaign speeches where this was the central theme... Then there was the after-election speeches about "changing" politics as usual... Couple that with McLame being an old, inside-the-beltway, politics-as-usual type of candidate (at least that's how he came off) and you have the expected results... Nope, sorry... Change was most definitely the theme...
Change was the theme. It was simple and to the point. However, Obama also had discrete policies on the campaign trail. Remember the debates?
Hell, Obama got a lot of votes simply by saying he was going to get us out of Iraq while McCain said we'd be there "100 more years if necessary".
There are many moderates in the tea party movement who have voted either way in the past... Ignoring them or considering them dyed-in-the-wool conservatives will hurt the D's in November... The left is now, and will continue painting the tea party movement as fringe right-wingers... The main message has to overcome that incorrect generalization...I agree, but the tea party is not a party - it's a movement of many different thoughts and degrees of what needs to be done... The central theme needs to be stressed between now and November and if it can overcome the generalizations of the left as being mostly fringe lunatics then there will be some inroads made..
I agree with most of that. I think the TP needs a simple message and that is giong to require some unity. I don't think the TP is made up of "fringe lunatics", just dyed-in-the-wool conservatives who wouldn't have voted for a DEM anyways.
The message that resonates with America is lower taxes and less government... It's up to the tea party to stress this between now and November... That is the case no matter what label you use...America is conservative, whether that's center-right or any other label you want to use is irrelevant...
I think it certainly is relevant. America being center-right versus hard-right is relevant in that it is going to matter if the TP message resonates with people who are not otherwise affiliated.
0bama won because people believed he would change "politics as usual"... He didn't win on "discrete policies"... Average voters don't latch on to discrete policies...
We're still in Iraq and I bet a lot voted for him because he said he's close GITMO...
We both know it was "change" that attracted the moderates...
There are many moderates in the tea party movement who have voted either way in the past... Ignoring them or considering them dyed-in-the-wool conservatives will hurt the D's in November... The left is now, and will continue painting the tea party movement as fringe right-wingers... The main message has to overcome that incorrect generalization...I agree, but the tea party is not a party - it's a movement of many different thoughts and degrees of what needs to be done... The central theme needs to be stressed between now and November and if it can overcome the generalizations of the left as being mostly fringe lunatics then there will be some inroads made..
I agree with most of that. I think the TP needs a simple message and that is giong to require some unity. I don't think the TP is made up of "fringe lunatics", just dyed-in-the-wool conservatives who wouldn't have voted for a DEM anyways.
That and the OP basically supports what we've been saying all along.
I personally can't wait until November. I think the teabaggers will get a couple of candidates in office. I think Rand Paul is a lock. However, I think they will screw up a lot more elections.
It will be a net flop. Why? Because the teabaggers were going to vote against the DEM candidate anyways. Meanwhile, the moderates are going to become increasingly turned off by the bizarre hard right mentality of the teabaggers.
The Contract from America
May 23, 2010
We, the citizens of the United States of America, call upon those seeking to represent us in public office to sign the Contract from America and by doing so commit to support each of its agenda items and advocate on behalf of individual liberty, limited government, and economic freedom.
Protect the Constitution
Reject Cap & Trade
Demand a Balanced Budget
Enact Fundamental Tax Reform
Restore Fiscal Responsibility & Constitutionally Limited Government
End Runaway Government Spending
Defund, Repeal, & Replace Government-run Health Care
Pass an ‘All-of-the-Above” Energy Policy
Stop the Pork
Stop the Tax Hikes
Yeah, the teabaggers are going to have to do better than a bunch of vague, feel-good, stances that have absolutely no teeth if they want to establish a real platform. Of those statements, maybe four have any meaning (i.e. "stop cap and trade"). Eventually, the teabaggers are going to have to put something substantive forward so the American people can see if they really agree with their positions. Vague statements aren't going to cut it.
I wonder how many Communist Party members overlap the Democrat base? Probably an equal percentage.
Really? My dad passed away in 2001 at 76 years of age. He was a life long Democrat. He was also a WWII USMC vet and a Deacon in a Southern Baptist Church. Even at 76, if you'd attempted to call him a Communist, he would have knocked you into next week.
Well, there's one. Anyone know of any others?
well only time will tell, won't it. just don't forget what happened AFTER Jimma Carter.
so If I were you lefties, I would also be HOPING the tea party is going to MINIMIZE the GOP.
Carter lost on his own incompetence, not because of some conservative revival.
I am certainly hoping the teabaggers screw up the GOP's gimme putt. I suspect they will.
You're right. Vague staements are what got the Big 0 elected and it's been proven that vage statements set the stage for the disaster under which we now suffer.
However, there's not much that a government can or cannot do that isn't covered by these vage statements. The common thread is: stop stealing our money. The only point of the ten that does not specifically refer to taxes or the budget, that means "money" for the responsibility challenged is the one that directs to protect the Constitution.
Protect it from what?
From the crowd that simutaneously cannot find the right to bear arms and can find the right to an abortion in the Constitution. The legal system has raised the ridiculous to the point at which we are all subjects of farce.
I wonder how many Communist Party members overlap the Democrat base? Probably an equal percentage.
That's different. Somehow. It just is. You racist!I wonder how many Communist Party members overlap the Democrat base? Probably an equal percentage.
Eight out of 10 Tea Party supporters are Republicans
Tea Party Supporters Overlap Republican Base
The Tea Party movement has received considerable news coverage this year, in large part because it appears to represent a new and potentially powerful force on the American political scene. Whether Tea Party supporters are a voting segment that is unique and distinct from the more traditional Republican conservative base, however, appears questionable. There is significant overlap between Tea Party supporters and conservative Republicans, both groups are highly enthusiastic about voting, and both are heavily skewed toward Republican candidates -- although the latter somewhat more so than the former.
Thanks Gallup for reconfirming what most of us already knew.
You are mistaken:
"The teaparty is an independent grass roots movement that is not aligned with any single party and recognizes no leader."TM
