Gallup: Most Americans favor Obama's economic proposals

[Billy000]

The proposals he laid out in the State of the Union, specifically.

Giving tax breaks to corporations who create domestic manfucturing jobs: 82% of those surveyed approve

Increasing Federal government spending for education and job training for the long-term employled: 75% of those surveyed approve

Pressuring China to allow fairer trade between the US and China: 69% of those surveyed approve

Increasing federal government spending to support the development of alternative energy sources: 64% of those surveyed approve

Increasing federal income taxes on upper-income Americans: 63% of those surveyed approve

Post-State of the Union Analysis

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Lie much?

From your link:

4. Economic Fairness

"We can either settle for a country where a shrinking number of people do really well while a growing number of Americans barely get by, or we can restore an economy where everyone gets a fair shot, and everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same set of rules."

The precise meaning of these words the president used in his speech is not entirely clear. The first and third phrases in his second clause -- "fair shot" and "everyone plays by the same set of rules" seem to imply a general fairness to the economic system or equal opportunity to "do really well."

Recent Gallup research shows that 45% of Americans think the current economic system is fair in general, with a solid majority (62%) saying the economic system is fair to them personally. In this sense, more Americans than Obama implied in his speech may currently agree that they get a fair shot and are playing by the same set of rules as everyone else.

Fifty-three percent of Americans are satisfied with the opportunity a person has to get ahead by working hard, which is down significantly from several years ago. It is not clear whether the less positive response to this question over the last four years simply reflects the view that the bad economy makes it harder for anyone to get ahead, or a view that the system has become less fair for certain groups.

Sounds to me like most Americans oppose his policies, but like his sound bites. Can't say I disagree with that myself, I love his soundbites, but his actual policies suck.

 

[Billy000]

Lie much?

From your link:

4. Economic Fairness

"We can either settle for a country where a shrinking number of people do really well while a growing number of Americans barely get by, or we can restore an economy where everyone gets a fair shot, and everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same set of rules."

The precise meaning of these words the president used in his speech is not entirely clear. The first and third phrases in his second clause -- "fair shot" and "everyone plays by the same set of rules" seem to imply a general fairness to the economic system or equal opportunity to "do really well."

Recent Gallup research shows that 45% of Americans think the current economic system is fair in general, with a solid majority (62%) saying the economic system is fair to them personally. In this sense, more Americans than Obama implied in his speech may currently agree that they get a fair shot and are playing by the same set of rules as everyone else.

Fifty-three percent of Americans are satisfied with the opportunity a person has to get ahead by working hard, which is down significantly from several years ago. It is not clear whether the less positive response to this question over the last four years simply reflects the view that the bad economy makes it harder for anyone to get ahead, or a view that the system has become less fair for certain groups.

Sounds to me like most Americans oppose his policies, but like his sound bites. Can't say I disagree with that myself, I love his soundbites, but his actual policies suck.

This excerpt does very little to contradict the point of my thread. Do you realize how immature you sound when you are being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Lie much?

From your link:

4. Economic Fairness

"We can either settle for a country where a shrinking number of people do really well while a growing number of Americans barely get by, or we can restore an economy where everyone gets a fair shot, and everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same set of rules."

The precise meaning of these words the president used in his speech is not entirely clear. The first and third phrases in his second clause -- "fair shot" and "everyone plays by the same set of rules" seem to imply a general fairness to the economic system or equal opportunity to "do really well."

Recent Gallup research shows that 45% of Americans think the current economic system is fair in general, with a solid majority (62%) saying the economic system is fair to them personally. In this sense, more Americans than Obama implied in his speech may currently agree that they get a fair shot and are playing by the same set of rules as everyone else.

Fifty-three percent of Americans are satisfied with the opportunity a person has to get ahead by working hard, which is down significantly from several years ago. It is not clear whether the less positive response to this question over the last four years simply reflects the view that the bad economy makes it harder for anyone to get ahead, or a view that the system has become less fair for certain groups.

Sounds to me like most Americans oppose his policies, but like his sound bites. Can't say I disagree with that myself, I love his soundbites, but his actual policies suck.

This excerpt does very little to contradict the point of my thread. Do you realize how immature you sound when you are being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative?

Do you realize how stupid you sound when you try to come off as mature?

Your thread is titled that Americans favor Obama's economic policies. In an attempt to prove that you pulled a few proposals Obama threw out in his SOTU speech and showed they polled favorably. They do sound good, but anyone that actually understands economics knows most of it is bullshit. Have you noticed how the only thing Krugman had to say about the speech is that Daniels screwed up the numbers in comparing Apple to the car bailout?

 

[Billy000]

Lie much?

From your link:



Sounds to me like most Americans oppose his policies, but like his sound bites. Can't say I disagree with that myself, I love his soundbites, but his actual policies suck.

This excerpt does very little to contradict the point of my thread. Do you realize how immature you sound when you are being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative?

Do you realize how stupid you sound when you try to come off as mature?

Your thread is titled that Americans favor Obama's economic policies. In an attempt to prove that you pulled a few proposals Obama threw out in his SOTU speech and showed they polled favorably. They do sound good, but anyone that actually understands economics knows most of it is bullshit. Have you noticed how the only thing Krugman had to say about the speech is that Daniels screwed up the numbers in comparing Apple to the car bailout?

No, what I was doing was summarizing the findings from the article. The viability of the economic issues themselves is a separate issue.

Idiot.

 

[Lakhota]

 

[Quantum Windbag]

This excerpt does very little to contradict the point of my thread. Do you realize how immature you sound when you are being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative?

Do you realize how stupid you sound when you try to come off as mature?

Your thread is titled that Americans favor Obama's economic policies. In an attempt to prove that you pulled a few proposals Obama threw out in his SOTU speech and showed they polled favorably. They do sound good, but anyone that actually understands economics knows most of it is bullshit. Have you noticed how the only thing Krugman had to say about the speech is that Daniels screwed up the numbers in comparing Apple to the car bailout?

No, what I was doing was summarizing the findings from the article. The viability of the economic issues themselves is a separate issue.

Idiot.

Not if you are president of the United States, which Obama is. He should listen to his advisors and not make proposals simply because they will get him elected. I know life long Democrats that are upset over Obama's SOTU speech, the only people that support it are idiots and hacks, which are you? I vote for both.

 

[Billy000]

You haven't explained why these are such terrible policies.

 

[Listening]

You haven't explained why these are such terrible policies.

Because they cost to much and they generally don't work.

Education suddenly became an issue ! In Kansas, we can't cut our eduction funding fast enough at the state level. That way, locals can decide if they want to pony up....and they will. With money that will stay in their own districts...not go to some NEA laden dung heap.

The rest sound so good...more money for alternative energy. Did they ask how many knew about Solyndra ?

 

[daveman]

The proposals he laid out in the State of the Union, specifically.

Giving tax breaks to corporations who create domestic manfucturing jobs: 82% of those surveyed approve

Increasing Federal government spending for education and job training for the long-term employled: 75% of those surveyed approve

Pressuring China to allow fairer trade between the US and China: 69% of those surveyed approve

Increasing federal government spending to support the development of alternative energy sources: 64% of those surveyed approve

Increasing federal income taxes on upper-income Americans: 63% of those surveyed approve

Post-State of the Union Analysis

Yeah, he reads a good speech.

But to normal people, that's not enough. Let's see what he actually does.

 

[Billy000]

You haven't explained why these are such terrible policies.

Because they cost to much and they generally don't work.

Education suddenly became an issue ! In Kansas, we can't cut our eduction funding fast enough at the state level. That way, locals can decide if they want to pony up....and they will. With money that will stay in their own districts...not go to some NEA laden dung heap.

The rest sound so good...more money for alternative energy. Did they ask how many knew about Solyndra ?

Too vague. How am I supposed to take your answer seriously?

And anyone who has watched Fox News knows about Solyndra.

 

[Listening]

You haven't explained why these are such terrible policies.

Because they cost to much and they generally don't work.

Education suddenly became an issue ! In Kansas, we can't cut our eduction funding fast enough at the state level. That way, locals can decide if they want to pony up....and they will. With money that will stay in their own districts...not go to some NEA laden dung heap.

The rest sound so good...more money for alternative energy. Did they ask how many knew about Solyndra ?

Too vague. How am I supposed to take your answer seriously?

And anyone who has watched Fox News knows about Solyndra.

Nobody has proven that any of these proposals will work. More spin.

Just like the failed stimulus.

So...just because they sound good means nothing.

 

[daveman]

You haven't explained why these are such terrible policies.

Because they cost to much and they generally don't work.

Education suddenly became an issue ! In Kansas, we can't cut our eduction funding fast enough at the state level. That way, locals can decide if they want to pony up....and they will. With money that will stay in their own districts...not go to some NEA laden dung heap.

The rest sound so good...more money for alternative energy. Did they ask how many knew about Solyndra ?

Too vague. How am I supposed to take your answer seriously?

And anyone who has watched Fox News knows about Solyndra.

Indeed. Because they don't hear much about it on the broadcast news.

Suppressing Obama's Solyndra Scandal; MRC Analysis Finds TV Networks Hyping Enron 24 Times More than Solyndra Fiasco | Media Research Center

 

[Listening]

The proposals he laid out in the State of the Union, specifically.

Giving tax breaks to corporations who create domestic manfucturing jobs: 82% of those surveyed approve

Increasing Federal government spending for education and job training for the long-term employled: 75% of those surveyed approve

Pressuring China to allow fairer trade between the US and China: 69% of those surveyed approve

Increasing federal government spending to support the development of alternative energy sources: 64% of those surveyed approve

Increasing federal income taxes on upper-income Americans: 63% of those surveyed approve

Post-State of the Union Analysis

Yeah, he reads a good speech.

But to normal people, that's not enough. Let's see what he actually does.

You have to wonder if they asked it was a good idea to keep raising the debt ceiling and pulling forward the day social security goes bust ?

 

[Billy000]

Because they cost to much and they generally don't work.

Education suddenly became an issue ! In Kansas, we can't cut our eduction funding fast enough at the state level. That way, locals can decide if they want to pony up....and they will. With money that will stay in their own districts...not go to some NEA laden dung heap.

The rest sound so good...more money for alternative energy. Did they ask how many knew about Solyndra ?

Too vague. How am I supposed to take your answer seriously?

And anyone who has watched Fox News knows about Solyndra.

Nobody has proven that any of these proposals will work. More spin.

Just like the failed stimulus.

So...just because they sound good means nothing.

It's amazing you cons won't give him credit for anything. A couple of those policies are rather conservative.

The stimulus did not fail. I don't understand why you people cannot wrap your minds around that. See the first link in my signature.

 

[Listening]

Too vague. How am I supposed to take your answer seriously?

And anyone who has watched Fox News knows about Solyndra.

Nobody has proven that any of these proposals will work. More spin.

Just like the failed stimulus.

So...just because they sound good means nothing.

It's amazing you cons won't give him credit for anything. A couple of those policies are rather conservative.

The stimulus did not fail. I don't understand why you people cannot wrap your minds around that. See the first link in my signature.

I've read that drivel before.

The academic economics are like scientists (you know that breed that liberals are always so fond of telling us are predominantly "not republican"). The only problem is that most engineers are conservatives (engineers those guys who have title the definition of which includes "economic" meaning they have to make it work cost effectively).

He gets credit for a great deal.

He wiped his ass with the constituion...then lost an iron clad house in two years. The only reason he didn't lose the senate is because the GOP somehow got some nominees out of the local assylums.

 

[Billy000]

Nobody has proven that any of these proposals will work. More spin.

Just like the failed stimulus.

So...just because they sound good means nothing.

It's amazing you cons won't give him credit for anything. A couple of those policies are rather conservative.

The stimulus did not fail. I don't understand why you people cannot wrap your minds around that. See the first link in my signature.

I've read that drivel before.


The academic economics are like scientists (you know that breed that liberals are always so fond of telling us are predominantly "not republican"). The only problem is that most engineers are conservatives (engineers those guys who have title the definition of which includes "economic" meaning they have to make it work cost effectively).

He gets credit for a great deal.

He wiped his ass with the constituion...then lost an iron clad house in two years. The only reason he didn't lose the senate is because the GOP somehow got some nominees out of the local assylums.

You truly only believe what you want to believe. Obama certainly isn't perfect, but to say he is a bad president is way off base.

 

[Listening]

It's amazing you cons won't give him credit for anything. A couple of those policies are rather conservative.

The stimulus did not fail. I don't understand why you people cannot wrap your minds around that. See the first link in my signature.

I've read that drivel before.


The academic economics are like scientists (you know that breed that liberals are always so fond of telling us are predominantly "not republican"). The only problem is that most engineers are conservatives (engineers those guys who have title the definition of which includes "economic" meaning they have to make it work cost effectively).

He gets credit for a great deal.

He wiped his ass with the constituion...then lost an iron clad house in two years. The only reason he didn't lose the senate is because the GOP somehow got some nominees out of the local assylums.

You truly only believe what you want to believe. Obama certainly isn't perfect, but to say he is a bad president is way off base.

I see you sidestepped the fact that America does not agree with you (or didn't in 2010). By this time in 1983, the dems realized they were totally hosed. Ronny was going in on a red carpet. He was a good president.

To say Obama is a bad president is giving him to much credit.

 

[Billy000]

I've read that drivel before.


The academic economics are like scientists (you know that breed that liberals are always so fond of telling us are predominantly "not republican"). The only problem is that most engineers are conservatives (engineers those guys who have title the definition of which includes "economic" meaning they have to make it work cost effectively).

He gets credit for a great deal.

He wiped his ass with the constituion...then lost an iron clad house in two years. The only reason he didn't lose the senate is because the GOP somehow got some nominees out of the local assylums.

You truly only believe what you want to believe. Obama certainly isn't perfect, but to say he is a bad president is way off base.

I see you sidestepped the fact that America does not agree with you (or didn't in 2010). By this time in 1983, the dems realized they were totally hosed. Ronny was going in on a red carpet. He was a good president.

To say Obama is a bad president is giving him to much credit.

I don't blame Obama for what happened in 2010. I blame the democrats.

 

[Listening]

You truly only believe what you want to believe. Obama certainly isn't perfect, but to say he is a bad president is way off base.

I see you sidestepped the fact that America does not agree with you (or didn't in 2010). By this time in 1983, the dems realized they were totally hosed. Ronny was going in on a red carpet. He was a good president.

To say Obama is a bad president is giving him to much credit.

I don't blame Obama for what happened in 2010. I blame the democrats.

You truly only believe what you want to believe.