Gallup: Conservatives Finish 2009 as No. 1 Ideological Group-so you know it is higher

[Neotrotsky]

So he is regulating the businesses that got bailed out ion an attempt to ensure that they don't need another bailout as executives walk away with huge undeserved compensation. I don't see the problem nor how that translates into control over the entirety of all compaines as you seem to imply.

Then in the second half of your rant you create a fictitious "goal", assign that to obama without offering proof that is what he has done and then ask others to disprove your argument when you offer nothing of substance to support it?? But I thought the burden of proof was on the one making the claim?? So do you have any proof or not?

Rant? too funny

Papa Obama did have did not have to bail out. They claimed at first for GM it was to stop bankruptcy- they filed for it anyway



His actions and legislative agenda are pushing us more left- what more "proof" do you want

Now your turn Good Dr, show us how Papa Obama is not taking us into a more left socialist world.

LOL How typical, you are asked for proof, you offer NONE and then demand that I prove your unproven claim wrong. Burden is on you and ball is still in your court.

I have offered "proof" Good Dr
I stated that his policies are taking us more to the left socialist direction


Again, if you feel they are not then please explain.

 

[drsmith1072]

Rant? too funny

Papa Obama did have did not have to bail out. They claimed at first for GM it was to stop bankruptcy- they filed for it anyway



His actions and legislative agenda are pushing us more left- what more "proof" do you want

Now your turn Good Dr, show us how Papa Obama is not taking us into a more left socialist world.

LOL How typical, you are asked for proof, you offer NONE and then demand that I prove your unproven claim wrong. Burden is on you and ball is still in your court.

I have offered "proof" Good Dr
I stated that his policies are taking us more to the left socialist direction


Again, if you feel they are not then please explain.

Funny but thus far you have only offered your OPINION and your OPINION is not proof of the claim that "everything he has done since he moved from the podium that said ofice of the president elect to the podium that says office of the president has been aimed creating a managed economy."

This,

"I stated that his policies are taking us more to the left socialist direction"

is an OPINION that you haven't yet substantiated. You merely keep restating it in the desperate hope that repetition will make it true. Sorry but it doesn't work that way.

P.S. not a doctor and never claimed to be one.

 

[Neotrotsky]

In hindsight your right, Papa Obama and the Democrats have nothing to worry about.
They should not change a thing eusa_whistle:

In hindsight, it means the GOP has to change, or we will keep losing.

Since the GOP is not in power and any movement in the polls towards them and conservatives is a reaction to the policies of the Democrats and Papa Obama, what do you see or expect the GOP to change?

Really, from a "Machiavellian" approach, at this rate the Dems and Papa Obama are going, the GOP does not have to do much

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Gallup: Conservatives Finish 2009 as No. 1 Ideological Group- so you know it is higher

GALLUP:

PRINCETON, NJ -- The increased conservatism that Gallup first identified among Americans last June persisted throughout the year, so that the final year-end political ideology figures confirm Gallup's initial reporting: conservatives (40%) outnumbered both moderates (36%) and liberals (21%) across the nation in 2009.

The rather abrupt three-point increase between 2008 and 2009 in the percentage of Americans calling themselves conservative is largely owing to an increase -- from 30% to 35% -- in the percentage of political independents adopting the label. Over the same period, there was only a slight increase in professed conservatism among Republicans (from 70% to 71%) and no change among Democrats (at 21%).

This is good for America. It means (1) that more Americans will join the GOP, and (2) the influence of the teabaggers will decrease in the GOP.

What is bad for the Party is that these folks and the moderates are the ones who elected BHO, and our leaders have given no reason why the electorate should trust the GOP again any time soon.

Post polls showing how BHO rates in favorability to the GOP: I bet he kicks the party's butt.

That is the important poll, folks.

Your post is complete hogwash...the GOP favorability of Obama barely tops 20%

RINO's like you are not really members of the GOP so stop pretending Starkey...your little game is over.

 

[Neotrotsky]

LOL How typical, you are asked for proof, you offer NONE and then demand that I prove your unproven claim wrong. Burden is on you and ball is still in your court.

I have offered "proof" Good Dr
I stated that his policies are taking us more to the left socialist direction


Again, if you feel they are not then please explain.

Funny but thus far you have only offered your OPINION and your OPINION is not proof of the claim that "everything he has done since he moved from the podium that said ofice of the president elect to the podium that says office of the president has been aimed creating a managed economy."

This,

"I stated that his policies are taking us more to the left socialist direction"

is an OPINION that you haven't yet substantiated. You merely keep restating it in the desperate hope that repetition will make it true. Sorry but it doesn't work that way.

Well, Good Dr, just as your opinions are opinions. I assume you know that theories can technically never proven - just disproved

Of course, using your "logic", I could keep say that you keep restating that I am restating in the desperate hope that repetition will make it true. So yeah, sorry it doesn't work that way


Again, I have offered it and I believe it to be true. You may think that wrong which is fine.
Of course, if you feel that by stating I am incorrect and refusing to support your own position somehow makes you correct- you are sadly confused.

Papa Obama's policies are taking us more into a "leftist socialist position"

I will make it easier on you, name one that is market approached
That should not be hard to do

 

[drsmith1072]

I have offered "proof" Good Dr
I stated that his policies are taking us more to the left socialist direction


Again, if you feel they are not then please explain.

Funny but thus far you have only offered your OPINION and your OPINION is not proof of the claim that "everything he has done since he moved from the podium that said ofice of the president elect to the podium that says office of the president has been aimed creating a managed economy."

This,

"I stated that his policies are taking us more to the left socialist direction"

is an OPINION that you haven't yet substantiated. You merely keep restating it in the desperate hope that repetition will make it true. Sorry but it doesn't work that way.

Well, Good Dr, just as your opinions are opinions. I assume you know that theories can technically never proven - just disproved

Of course, using your "logic", I could keep say that you keep restating that I am restating in the desperate hope that repetition will make it true. So yeah, sorry it doesn't work that way


Again, I have offered it and I believe it to be true. You may think that wrong which is fine.
Of course, if you feel that by stating I am incorrect and refusing to support your own position somehow makes you correct- you are sadly confused.

Papa Obama's policies are taking us more into a "leftist socialist position"

I will make it easier on you, name one that is market approached
That should not be hard to do

So in other words you are offering your OPINION and still can't offer anything to substantiate said OPINION. Just because you BELIEVE something it doesn't make it FACT.

Thanks for clearing that up.

You made the claim to burden of proof is on YOU. I seriously don't know why you fail to grasp such a simple concept. I don't have to prove you wrong and the fact that you fail to prove your own claim does show that even you know that your argument is flawed. If not then you should have been able to easily substantiate YOUR claim. However, the fact remains that you continue to avoid doing so, shows that you can't.

It's simple really. If you could prove it, then you would. However, since you won't most would agree that means that you can't.

 

[JakeStarkey]

RINO's like you are not really members of the GOP so stop pretending Starkey...your little game is over.

Those Republicans that believe in my type of policies keep growing in numbers, and we are and will keep eliminating you pretend wannabees from the reactionary wingnut fringe from any say so in party policy. Most of you should be gone by 2012 as we elect somebody sane for the office, somebody that the teabaggers disapprove.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Funny but thus far you have only offered your OPINION and your OPINION is not proof of the claim that "everything he has done since he moved from the podium that said ofice of the president elect to the podium that says office of the president has been aimed creating a managed economy."

This,

"I stated that his policies are taking us more to the left socialist direction"

is an OPINION that you haven't yet substantiated. You merely keep restating it in the desperate hope that repetition will make it true. Sorry but it doesn't work that way.

Well, Good Dr, just as your opinions are opinions. I assume you know that theories can technically never proven - just disproved

Of course, using your "logic", I could keep say that you keep restating that I am restating in the desperate hope that repetition will make it true. So yeah, sorry it doesn't work that way


Again, I have offered it and I believe it to be true. You may think that wrong which is fine.
Of course, if you feel that by stating I am incorrect and refusing to support your own position somehow makes you correct- you are sadly confused.

Papa Obama's policies are taking us more into a "leftist socialist position"

I will make it easier on you, name one that is market approached
That should not be hard to do

So in other words you are offering your OPINION and still can't offer anything to substantiate said OPINION.

Thanks for clearing that up.

You made the claim to burden of proof is on YOU. I seriously don't know why you fail to grasp such a simple concept. I don't have to prove you wrong and the fact that you fail to prove your own claim does show that even you know that your argument is flawed. If not then you should have been able to easily substantiate YOUR claim. However, the fact remains that you continue to avoid doing so, shows that you can't.

It's simple really. If you could prove it, then you would. However, since you won't most would agree that means that you can't.

Not at all Good Dr- his policies are the proof -why is that so hard for you to understand>


you have spent a lot of time accusing- it is noted

 

[drsmith1072]

Well, Good Dr, just as your opinions are opinions. I assume you know that theories can technically never proven - just disproved

Of course, using your "logic", I could keep say that you keep restating that I am restating in the desperate hope that repetition will make it true. So yeah, sorry it doesn't work that way


Again, I have offered it and I believe it to be true. You may think that wrong which is fine.
Of course, if you feel that by stating I am incorrect and refusing to support your own position somehow makes you correct- you are sadly confused.

Papa Obama's policies are taking us more into a "leftist socialist position"

I will make it easier on you, name one that is market approached
That should not be hard to do

So in other words you are offering your OPINION and still can't offer anything to substantiate said OPINION.

Thanks for clearing that up.

You made the claim to burden of proof is on YOU. I seriously don't know why you fail to grasp such a simple concept. I don't have to prove you wrong and the fact that you fail to prove your own claim does show that even you know that your argument is flawed. If not then you should have been able to easily substantiate YOUR claim. However, the fact remains that you continue to avoid doing so, shows that you can't.

It's simple really. If you could prove it, then you would. However, since you won't most would agree that means that you can't.

Not at all Good Dr- his policies are the proof -why is that so hard for you to understand>


you have spent a lot of time accusing- it is noted

Once again you present OPINION instead of proving your own claim. Put up or shut up. LOL

Furthermore, I am merely asking YOU to substantiate YOUR claim which is the standard of this board and you failed to do so at every opportunity. That is hardly what any honest person would call "accusing."

So "note" whatever you want to just don't forget to note how you failed to prove your claim. LOL

 

[Neotrotsky]

So in other words you are offering your OPINION and still can't offer anything to substantiate said OPINION.

Thanks for clearing that up.

You made the claim to burden of proof is on YOU. I seriously don't know why you fail to grasp such a simple concept. I don't have to prove you wrong and the fact that you fail to prove your own claim does show that even you know that your argument is flawed. If not then you should have been able to easily substantiate YOUR claim. However, the fact remains that you continue to avoid doing so, shows that you can't.

It's simple really. If you could prove it, then you would. However, since you won't most would agree that means that you can't.

Not at all Good Dr- his policies are the proof -why is that so hard for you to understand>


you have spent a lot of time accusing- it is noted

Once again you present OPINION instead of proving your own claim. Put up or shut up. LOL

Furthermore, I am merely asking YOU to substantiate YOUR claim which is the standard of this board and you failed to do so at every opportunity. That is hardly what any honest person would call "accusing."

So "note" whatever you want to just don't forget to note how you failed to prove your claim. LOL

Truth is hard for the left; in fact, truth tends to be the worst enemy of the left

The "proof" are Papa Obama's policies for pushing us towards a more leftist socialist direction.

Well , Papa Obama turns to a more socialist approach; his policies reflect that and substantiate that - why is this so hard for you to understand-

You want more? See - all of Papa Obama's policies. Is that enough "proof" for you


Since it appears you do not agree- The time is for you to as you say "put up or shut up"

Of course, you may agree with statement; so their is no argument. Then again, you may not agree; but you can offer no policies to support that position

tough call Good Dr

Just as a side note(in case you didn't know) you have done nothing to disprove my "theory" or support your own position

 

[PatekPhilippe]

notice how the fraud drsmith let's neotrotsky continue to call him Dr. all the while knowing he is a complete fraud. Too funny...

 

[JakeStarkey]

notice how the fraud drsmith let's neotrotsky continue to call him Dr. all the while knowing he is a complete fraud. Too funny...

Here, this will help you with your fluency: Learn to Speak Tea Bag | Mark Fiore's Animated Cartoon Site

 

[drsmith1072]

Not at all Good Dr- his policies are the proof -why is that so hard for you to understand>


you have spent a lot of time accusing- it is noted

Once again you present OPINION instead of proving your own claim. Put up or shut up. LOL

Furthermore, I am merely asking YOU to substantiate YOUR claim which is the standard of this board and you failed to do so at every opportunity. That is hardly what any honest person would call "accusing."

So "note" whatever you want to just don't forget to note how you failed to prove your claim. LOL

Truth is hard for the left; in fact, truth tends to be the worst enemy of the left

The "proof" are Papa Obama's policies for pushing us towards a more leftist socialist direction.

Well , Papa Obama turns to a more socialist approach; his policies reflect that and substantiate that - why is this so hard for you to understand


Since it appears you do not agree- The time is for you to as you say "put up or shut up"

Of course, you may agree with statement; so their is no argument. Then again, you may not agree; but you can offer no policies to support that position

tough call

Truth?? When you provide some then we can talk until your OPINION is only your OPINION and your OPINION is all you continue to offer so there is NOTHING to refute.

So in other words, you fail to prove your own argument or provide anything to substantiate it and then tell me that if I disagree that I must therefore prove your UNPROVEN OPINION to be wrong? Do you see the flaw in your logic?

AGAIN the burden of PROOF is on YOU. You made the claim PROVE IT. Parroting the same thing over and over again does nothing to prove it so there is NOTHING to refute. LOL

Are you really this slow?? Sorry if you percieve that as a personal attack but I am seriously curious as to whether you are just being intentionally dishonest to avoid admitting that you have nothing or do you just not get the concept?

 

[Neotrotsky]

notice how the fraud drsmith let's neotrotsky continue to call him Dr. all the while knowing he is a complete fraud. Too funny...

I find it funnier that his argument is to keep claiming one has not substantiated. Of course, he decides when it is "enough".

Maybe he agrees that Papa Obama's policies are pushing us more towards socialism than not

 

[Neotrotsky]

Once again you present OPINION instead of proving your own claim. Put up or shut up. LOL

Furthermore, I am merely asking YOU to substantiate YOUR claim which is the standard of this board and you failed to do so at every opportunity. That is hardly what any honest person would call "accusing."

So "note" whatever you want to just don't forget to note how you failed to prove your claim. LOL

Truth is hard for the left; in fact, truth tends to be the worst enemy of the left

The "proof" are Papa Obama's policies for pushing us towards a more leftist socialist direction.

Well , Papa Obama turns to a more socialist approach; his policies reflect that and substantiate that - why is this so hard for you to understand


Since it appears you do not agree- The time is for you to as you say "put up or shut up"

Of course, you may agree with statement; so their is no argument. Then again, you may not agree; but you can offer no policies to support that position

tough call

Truth?? When you provide some then we can talk until your OPINION is only your OPINION and your OPINION is all you continue to offer so there is NOTHING to refute.

So in other words, you fail to prove your own argument or provide anything to substantiate it and then tell me that if I disagree that I must therefore prove your UNPROVEN OPINION to be wrong? Do you see the flaw in your logic?

AGAIN the burden of PROOF is on YOU. You made the claim PROVE IT. Parroting the same thing over and over again does nothing to prove it so there is NOTHING to refute. LOL

Are you really this slow?? Sorry if you percieve that as a personal attack but I am seriously curious as to whether you are just being intentionally dishonest to avoid admitting that you have nothing or do you just not get the concept?

Again, Good Dr, we have been over this- his policies are the proof- pick any one you want
My "burden" as you call it - is done. You may not like it or refuse to accept it; but sorry, it does not work that way

"Parroting the same thing over and over again " , I agree this is not working too well for you

Of course, I am open to change. If you feel his policies are not proof of a "socialist push"
then by all means please explain.

If you want to go on the record by saying:

His policies do not push us in a more socialist direction.

I will accept that statement as valid; but not true since I do not agree with it

 

[drsmith1072]

notice how the fraud drsmith let's neotrotsky continue to call him Dr. all the while knowing he is a complete fraud. Too funny...

uh, look back moron I told him once I was not a doctor and never claimed to be not my fault he continues to do so.

The funny thing is that you continue to make this false allegation when I have even told you on this board as I have told many times on teh msnbc message boards that d and r are my first and middle initials.
Yet despite that FACT you continue to lie in a desperate attempt to attack me on this board because I owned you so often on the other board. I told you many times on the other baord if I meant deception I would have capitialized and used puncuation to specify that I am claiming to be a doctor such as Dr.Smith1072 or even Drsmith1072 but no I went with drsmith1072 because I thought that made it obvious.

You can run away now stalker, after all that is what you usually do after being confronted by the facts. LOL

 

[JakeStarkey]

Truth is hard for the left; in fact, truth tends to be the worst enemy of the left

The "proof" are Papa Obama's policies for pushing us towards a more leftist socialist direction.

Well , Papa Obama turns to a more socialist approach; his policies reflect that and substantiate that - why is this so hard for you to understand


Since it appears you do not agree- The time is for you to as you say "put up or shut up"

Of course, you may agree with statement; so their is no argument. Then again, you may not agree; but you can offer no policies to support that position

tough call

Truth?? When you provide some then we can talk until your OPINION is only your OPINION and your OPINION is all you continue to offer so there is NOTHING to refute.

So in other words, you fail to prove your own argument or provide anything to substantiate it and then tell me that if I disagree that I must therefore prove your UNPROVEN OPINION to be wrong? Do you see the flaw in your logic?

AGAIN the burden of PROOF is on YOU. You made the claim PROVE IT. Parroting the same thing over and over again does nothing to prove it so there is NOTHING to refute. LOL

Are you really this slow?? Sorry if you percieve that as a personal attack but I am seriously curious as to whether you are just being intentionally dishonest to avoid admitting that you have nothing or do you just not get the concept?

Again, Good Dr, we have been over this- his policies are the proof- pick any one you want
My "burden" as you call it - is done. You may not like it or refuse to accept it; but sorry, it does not work that way

"Parroting the same thing over and over again " , I agree this is not working too well for you

Of course, I am open to change. If you feel his policies are not proof of a "socialist push"
then by all means please explain.

If you want to go on the record by saying:

His policies do not push us in a more socialist direction.

I will accept that statement as valid; but not true since I do not agree with it

Here, this will help you with your fluency: Learn to Speak Tea Bag | Mark Fiore's Animated Cartoon Site

 

[PatekPhilippe]

notice how the fraud drsmith let's neotrotsky continue to call him Dr. all the while knowing he is a complete fraud. Too funny...

uh, look back moron I told him once I was not a doctor and never claimed to be not my fault he continues to do so.

The funny thing is that you continue to make this false allegation when I have even told you on this board as I have told many times on teh msnbc message boards that d and r are my first and middle initials.
Yet despite that FACT you continue to lie in a desperate attempt to attack me on this board because I owned you so often on the other board. I told you many times on the other baord if I meant deception I would have capitialized and used puncuation to specify that I am claiming to be a doctor such as Dr.Smith1072 or even Drsmith1072 but no I went with drsmith1072 because I thought that made it obvious.

You can run away now stalker, after all that is what you usually do after being confronted by the facts. LOL

You're just mad because I made a big deal out of you admitting to wearing women's underwear.....hey this is the new milleium...no harm no foul.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Just curious....from before

Since the GOP is not in power and any movement in the polls towards them and conservatives is a reaction to the policies of the Democrats and Papa Obama, what do you see or expect the GOP to change?

Really, from a "Machiavellian" approach, at this rate the Dems and Papa Obama are going, the GOP does not have to do much

 

[Neotrotsky]

notice how the fraud drsmith let's neotrotsky continue to call him Dr. all the while knowing he is a complete fraud. Too funny...

uh, look back moron I told him once I was not a doctor and never claimed to be not my fault he continues to do so.

The funny thing is that you continue to make this false allegation when I have even told you on this board as I have told many times on teh msnbc message boards that d and r are my first and middle initials.
Yet despite that FACT you continue to lie in a desperate attempt to attack me on this board because I owned you so often on the other board. I told you many times on the other baord if I meant deception I would have capitialized and used puncuation to specify that I am claiming to be a doctor such as Dr.Smith1072 or even Drsmith1072 but no I went with drsmith1072 because I thought that made it obvious.

You can run away now stalker, after all that is what you usually do after being confronted by the facts. LOL

You're just mad because I made a big deal out of you admitting to wearing women's underwear.....hey this is the new milleium...no harm no foul.

You mean the Good Dr is Amanda Simpson ?