Gaia scientist recants alarmism

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I await the usual suspects to come in and post all the doomsday scenarios.

It will also reflect his new opinion that global warming has not occurred as he had expected.“The problem is we don’t know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books – mine included – because it looked clear-cut, but it hasn’t happened,” Lovelock said.
“The climate is doing its usual tricks. There’s nothing much really happening yet. We were supposed to be halfway toward a frying world now,” he said.
“The world has not warmed up very much since the millennium. Twelve years is a reasonable time… it (the temperature) has stayed almost constant, whereas it should have been rising -- carbon dioxide is rising, no question about that,” he added.
He pointed to Gore’s “An Inconvenient Truth” and Tim Flannery’s “The Weather Makers” as other examples of “alarmist” forecasts of the future.
In 2007, Time magazine named Lovelock as one of 13 leaders and visionaries in an article on “Heroes of the Environmentwhich also included Gore, Mikhail Gorbachev and Robert Redford.

World News - 'Gaia' scientist James Lovelock: I was 'alarmist' about climate change
 
I await the usual suspects to come in and post all the doomsday scenarios.

Now that real science, ie chemistry, physics, astrophysics, etc have entered the fray in an effort to save whatever reputation science as a whole may have left after being pillaged by climate pseudoscience, the building blocks of the religion are tumbling at a more rapid pace. The big names in alarmism are starting to dissassociate themselves and head for the tall grass in an effort to save some credibility. Quite a few big names have recanted thier belief and this is just one more example. Look for an ever growing number in the near future.
 
The Earth has been warming naturally since the last ice age. There have been periods in this world's history which there were no ice caps, and yet things turned out just fine.

If people are 'alarmed' about the planet warming up, then they are idiots.
 
Alarmists alive and well. Guess we will see how this plays out.

Arctic Methane Emergency Group - AMEG - Home

DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY

We declare there now exists an extremely high international security risk* from abrupt and runaway global warming being triggered by the end-summer collapse of Arctic sea ice towards a fraction of the current record and release of huge quantities of methane gas from the seabed. Such global warming would lead at first to worldwide crop failures but ultimately and inexorably to the collapse of civilization as we know it. This colossal threat demands an immediate emergency scale response to cool the Arctic and save the sea ice. The latest available data indicates that a sea ice collapse is more than likely by 2015 and even possible this summer (2012). Thus some measures to counter the threat have to be ready within a few months.

The immediacy of this risk is underlined by the discovery of vast areas of continental shelf already in a critical condition as a result of the warming of the Arctic Ocean seabed. Increasingly large quantities of methane are being emitted from the seabed. Moreover there is the possibility of methane held as hydrates or under thawing permafrost being suddenly released in very large quantities due to some disturbance such as an earthquake. The quantities of methane in the continental shelf are so vast that a release of only one or two percent of the methane could lead to the release of the remaining methane in an unstoppable chain reaction. Global warming would spiral upward way beyond the 2 degrees which many scientists consider the safety limit
 
Another group of alarmists. Note that this was written in the summer of 2010.

Munich Re - Extreme weather events

Signs of climate change?
A single weather event is not proof of climate change but the sum total of events constitutes a clear chain of evidence which is backed up by additional meteorological readings. March, April, May and June 2010 were the warmest ever recorded globally, and July looks set to follow suit.

Another sign of global warming is that the area covered by sea ice in the Arctic Ocean shrank to record lows in June and July, and is expected to reach a new absolute minimum in September. This is happening even against the background of minimum solar activity during the first six months of 2010 and indicates that solar radiation can be excluded as a causal factor for the extreme weather events.

These facts show that global warming is playing a significant role in the rising number of extreme events. Analyses performed by Munich Re’s natural catastrophe database, the most comprehensive in the world, substantiate this increase: the number of extreme weather events like windstorm and floods has tripled since 1980, and the trend is expected to persist.

Excerpts from interview with Prof. Peter Höppe, Munich Re’s Head
of GeoRisk Research/Corporate Climate Centre,
on ZDF TV news program (Germany), 09.08.2010
Munich Re has been analysing natural hazards and natural hazard losses for more than 35 years. For this purpose, Munich Re has set up the most comprehensive natural catastrophe database in the world, which currently comprises more than 28,000 events. It documents major events from 1950 onwards, all claims-related events from 1980 onwards, and the effects of natural catastrophes on individual economies, the insurance sector and the population.
 
A long paper from the world's largest re-insurance company.

http://www.munichre.com/app_pages/w...s/durban_2011/press_folder_durban_2011_en.pdf

Current meteorological knowledge

 Climate change is a fact, and it is almost entirely made by man. The increased concentration of greenhouse gas in the earth's atmosphere has caused global mean annual temperatures to increase by 0.74°C in just the l t 100 last years.

 Depending on the institute conducting the analysis, 2010 was shown to be the warmest or second-warmest year since records began 130 years ago. The ten warmest years within this period all lie within the last 12 years.

........................................................................................................................

The number of major weather-related natural
catastrophes has almost tripled since 1980. The
number of flood loss events has gone up by a factor of
more than three, and the number of windstorm natural
catastrophes has more than doubled.
 
Responsible business men and scientists planning for the inevitable.

Climate Week NYC 2011 | Swiss Re - Leading Global Reinsurer

A more climate-resilient society benefits all. But where and how can business and government work together to adapt to climate change?

Business, government and non-profit sector leaders explored these and other questions at the Swiss Re-sponsored panel “Rethinking Resiliency” during Climate Week NYC 2011, held at the New York Institute of Science and attended by over 200 people.

They shared a view that the global debate must focus on both mitigating climate change and adapting to its unavoidable consequences. Insurance can play a major role in mobilizing the financing needed to turn ideas into action. It’s cheaper to invest in adaptation now than to deal with the cost of doing nothing tomorrow.

Rebecca Grynspan, Associate Administrator at the United Nations Development Programme said adapting to climate change is a must, pointing out that the world already experiences about 500 weather-related disasters a year compared to about 100 per year in 1980. Developing countries suffer the most because they’re the most vulnerable. But there are encouraging signs that some of the poorest communities are taking matters into their own hands.
 
I wonder if I could make a living as a psychic, I can obviously predict the knee jerk reactions of the usual suspects.

Alarmists alive and well. Guess we will see how this plays out.

Arctic Methane Emergency Group - AMEG - Home

DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY

We declare there now exists an extremely high international security risk* from abrupt and runaway global warming being triggered by the end-summer collapse of Arctic sea ice towards a fraction of the current record and release of huge quantities of methane gas from the seabed. Such global warming would lead at first to worldwide crop failures but ultimately and inexorably to the collapse of civilization as we know it. This colossal threat demands an immediate emergency scale response to cool the Arctic and save the sea ice. The latest available data indicates that a sea ice collapse is more than likely by 2015 and even possible this summer (2012). Thus some measures to counter the threat have to be ready within a few months.

The immediacy of this risk is underlined by the discovery of vast areas of continental shelf already in a critical condition as a result of the warming of the Arctic Ocean seabed. Increasingly large quantities of methane are being emitted from the seabed. Moreover there is the possibility of methane held as hydrates or under thawing permafrost being suddenly released in very large quantities due to some disturbance such as an earthquake. The quantities of methane in the continental shelf are so vast that a release of only one or two percent of the methane could lead to the release of the remaining methane in an unstoppable chain reaction. Global warming would spiral upward way beyond the 2 degrees which many scientists consider the safety limit

Another group of alarmists. Note that this was written in the summer of 2010.

Munich Re - Extreme weather events

Signs of climate change?
A single weather event is not proof of climate change but the sum total of events constitutes a clear chain of evidence which is backed up by additional meteorological readings. March, April, May and June 2010 were the warmest ever recorded globally, and July looks set to follow suit.

Another sign of global warming is that the area covered by sea ice in the Arctic Ocean shrank to record lows in June and July, and is expected to reach a new absolute minimum in September. This is happening even against the background of minimum solar activity during the first six months of 2010 and indicates that solar radiation can be excluded as a causal factor for the extreme weather events.

These facts show that global warming is playing a significant role in the rising number of extreme events. Analyses performed by Munich Re’s natural catastrophe database, the most comprehensive in the world, substantiate this increase: the number of extreme weather events like windstorm and floods has tripled since 1980, and the trend is expected to persist.

Excerpts from interview with Prof. Peter Höppe, Munich Re’s Head
of GeoRisk Research/Corporate Climate Centre,
on ZDF TV news program (Germany), 09.08.2010
Munich Re has been analysing natural hazards and natural hazard losses for more than 35 years. For this purpose, Munich Re has set up the most comprehensive natural catastrophe database in the world, which currently comprises more than 28,000 events. It documents major events from 1950 onwards, all claims-related events from 1980 onwards, and the effects of natural catastrophes on individual economies, the insurance sector and the population.

A long paper from the world's largest re-insurance company.

http://www.munichre.com/app_pages/www/@res/pdf/media_relations/press_dossiers/durban_2011/press_folder_durban_2011_en.pdf

Current meteorological knowledge

 Climate change is a fact, and it is almost entirely made by man. The increased concentration of greenhouse gas in the earth's atmosphere has caused global mean annual temperatures to increase by 0.74°C in just the l t 100 last years.

 Depending on the institute conducting the analysis, 2010 was shown to be the warmest or second-warmest year since records began 130 years ago. The ten warmest years within this period all lie within the last 12 years.

........................................................................................................................

The number of major weather-related natural
catastrophes has almost tripled since 1980. The
number of flood loss events has gone up by a factor of
more than three, and the number of windstorm natural
catastrophes has more than doubled.

Responsible business men and scientists planning for the inevitable.

Climate Week NYC 2011 | Swiss Re - Leading Global Reinsurer

A more climate-resilient society benefits all. But where and how can business and government work together to adapt to climate change?

Business, government and non-profit sector leaders explored these and other questions at the Swiss Re-sponsored panel “Rethinking Resiliency” during Climate Week NYC 2011, held at the New York Institute of Science and attended by over 200 people.

They shared a view that the global debate must focus on both mitigating climate change and adapting to its unavoidable consequences. Insurance can play a major role in mobilizing the financing needed to turn ideas into action. It’s cheaper to invest in adaptation now than to deal with the cost of doing nothing tomorrow.

Rebecca Grynspan, Associate Administrator at the United Nations Development Programme said adapting to climate change is a must, pointing out that the world already experiences about 500 weather-related disasters a year compared to about 100 per year in 1980. Developing countries suffer the most because they’re the most vulnerable. But there are encouraging signs that some of the poorest communities are taking matters into their own hands.
 
I wonder if I could make a living as a psychic, I can obviously predict the knee jerk reactions of the usual suspects.

Alarmists alive and well. Guess we will see how this plays out.

Arctic Methane Emergency Group - AMEG - Home

DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY

We declare there now exists an extremely high international security risk* from abrupt and runaway global warming being triggered by the end-summer collapse of Arctic sea ice towards a fraction of the current record and release of huge quantities of methane gas from the seabed. Such global warming would lead at first to worldwide crop failures but ultimately and inexorably to the collapse of civilization as we know it. This colossal threat demands an immediate emergency scale response to cool the Arctic and save the sea ice. The latest available data indicates that a sea ice collapse is more than likely by 2015 and even possible this summer (2012). Thus some measures to counter the threat have to be ready within a few months.

The immediacy of this risk is underlined by the discovery of vast areas of continental shelf already in a critical condition as a result of the warming of the Arctic Ocean seabed. Increasingly large quantities of methane are being emitted from the seabed. Moreover there is the possibility of methane held as hydrates or under thawing permafrost being suddenly released in very large quantities due to some disturbance such as an earthquake. The quantities of methane in the continental shelf are so vast that a release of only one or two percent of the methane could lead to the release of the remaining methane in an unstoppable chain reaction. Global warming would spiral upward way beyond the 2 degrees which many scientists consider the safety limit

Another group of alarmists. Note that this was written in the summer of 2010.

Munich Re - Extreme weather events

Signs of climate change?
A single weather event is not proof of climate change but the sum total of events constitutes a clear chain of evidence which is backed up by additional meteorological readings. March, April, May and June 2010 were the warmest ever recorded globally, and July looks set to follow suit.

Another sign of global warming is that the area covered by sea ice in the Arctic Ocean shrank to record lows in June and July, and is expected to reach a new absolute minimum in September. This is happening even against the background of minimum solar activity during the first six months of 2010 and indicates that solar radiation can be excluded as a causal factor for the extreme weather events.

These facts show that global warming is playing a significant role in the rising number of extreme events. Analyses performed by Munich Re’s natural catastrophe database, the most comprehensive in the world, substantiate this increase: the number of extreme weather events like windstorm and floods has tripled since 1980, and the trend is expected to persist.

Excerpts from interview with Prof. Peter Höppe, Munich Re’s Head
of GeoRisk Research/Corporate Climate Centre,
on ZDF TV news program (Germany), 09.08.2010
Munich Re has been analysing natural hazards and natural hazard losses for more than 35 years. For this purpose, Munich Re has set up the most comprehensive natural catastrophe database in the world, which currently comprises more than 28,000 events. It documents major events from 1950 onwards, all claims-related events from 1980 onwards, and the effects of natural catastrophes on individual economies, the insurance sector and the population.

A long paper from the world's largest re-insurance company.

http://www.munichre.com/app_pages/www/@res/pdf/media_relations/press_dossiers/durban_2011/press_folder_durban_2011_en.pdf

Current meteorological knowledge

 Climate change is a fact, and it is almost entirely made by man. The increased concentration of greenhouse gas in the earth's atmosphere has caused global mean annual temperatures to increase by 0.74°C in just the l t 100 last years.

 Depending on the institute conducting the analysis, 2010 was shown to be the warmest or second-warmest year since records began 130 years ago. The ten warmest years within this period all lie within the last 12 years.

........................................................................................................................

The number of major weather-related natural
catastrophes has almost tripled since 1980. The
number of flood loss events has gone up by a factor of
more than three, and the number of windstorm natural
catastrophes has more than doubled.

Responsible business men and scientists planning for the inevitable.

Climate Week NYC 2011 | Swiss Re - Leading Global Reinsurer

A more climate-resilient society benefits all. But where and how can business and government work together to adapt to climate change?

Business, government and non-profit sector leaders explored these and other questions at the Swiss Re-sponsored panel “Rethinking Resiliency” during Climate Week NYC 2011, held at the New York Institute of Science and attended by over 200 people.

They shared a view that the global debate must focus on both mitigating climate change and adapting to its unavoidable consequences. Insurance can play a major role in mobilizing the financing needed to turn ideas into action. It’s cheaper to invest in adaptation now than to deal with the cost of doing nothing tomorrow.

Rebecca Grynspan, Associate Administrator at the United Nations Development Programme said adapting to climate change is a must, pointing out that the world already experiences about 500 weather-related disasters a year compared to about 100 per year in 1980. Developing countries suffer the most because they’re the most vulnerable. But there are encouraging signs that some of the poorest communities are taking matters into their own hands.

Ah yes, we present evidence from scientists while you present yap-yap.
 
I wonder if I could make a living as a psychic, I can obviously predict the knee jerk reactions of the usual suspects.

Alarmists alive and well. Guess we will see how this plays out.

Arctic Methane Emergency Group - AMEG - Home

DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY

We declare there now exists an extremely high international security risk* from abrupt and runaway global warming being triggered by the end-summer collapse of Arctic sea ice towards a fraction of the current record and release of huge quantities of methane gas from the seabed. Such global warming would lead at first to worldwide crop failures but ultimately and inexorably to the collapse of civilization as we know it. This colossal threat demands an immediate emergency scale response to cool the Arctic and save the sea ice. The latest available data indicates that a sea ice collapse is more than likely by 2015 and even possible this summer (2012). Thus some measures to counter the threat have to be ready within a few months.

The immediacy of this risk is underlined by the discovery of vast areas of continental shelf already in a critical condition as a result of the warming of the Arctic Ocean seabed. Increasingly large quantities of methane are being emitted from the seabed. Moreover there is the possibility of methane held as hydrates or under thawing permafrost being suddenly released in very large quantities due to some disturbance such as an earthquake. The quantities of methane in the continental shelf are so vast that a release of only one or two percent of the methane could lead to the release of the remaining methane in an unstoppable chain reaction. Global warming would spiral upward way beyond the 2 degrees which many scientists consider the safety limit





Responsible business men and scientists planning for the inevitable.

Climate Week NYC 2011 | Swiss Re - Leading Global Reinsurer

A more climate-resilient society benefits all. But where and how can business and government work together to adapt to climate change?

Business, government and non-profit sector leaders explored these and other questions at the Swiss Re-sponsored panel “Rethinking Resiliency” during Climate Week NYC 2011, held at the New York Institute of Science and attended by over 200 people.

They shared a view that the global debate must focus on both mitigating climate change and adapting to its unavoidable consequences. Insurance can play a major role in mobilizing the financing needed to turn ideas into action. It’s cheaper to invest in adaptation now than to deal with the cost of doing nothing tomorrow.

Rebecca Grynspan, Associate Administrator at the United Nations Development Programme said adapting to climate change is a must, pointing out that the world already experiences about 500 weather-related disasters a year compared to about 100 per year in 1980. Developing countries suffer the most because they’re the most vulnerable. But there are encouraging signs that some of the poorest communities are taking matters into their own hands.

Ah yes, we present evidence from scientists while you present yap-yap.

When did Lovelock stop being a scientist?

Just curious, you understand, because you had no problem using him as a reference here.

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The real difference between me and you is I don't just pretend I never heard of someone when he admits he made a mistake.
 

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