G.O.P. Now Embraces War as Issue

[Avatar4321]

More kool-aide...

Face it Bully, You claimed there were no WMDs. There are. It doesnt matter how you try to spin it. If you are going to continue to claim there are none then you are just a liar.

And BTW why would you be surprised that Republicans would consider defending the United States an important issue to embrace. Far better than the Blame America First Crowd

 

[Bullypulpit]

Face it Bully, You claimed there were no WMDs. There are. It doesnt matter how you try to spin it. If you are going to continue to claim there are none then you are just a liar.

And BTW why would you be surprised that Republicans would consider defending the United States an important issue to embrace. Far better than the Blame America First Crowd

<blockquote> <a href=http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/special_packages/iraq/14879521.htm>WASHINGTON</a> - A new, partially declassified intelligence report provides no new evidence that Saddam Hussein had stockpiled weapons of mass destruction on the eve of the U.S.-led invasion, as President Bush alleged in making the case for war, U.S. intelligence officials said Thursday.

The report, made public in the midst of a partisan debate in Congress, says that about 500 munitions containing degraded chemical weapons, including mustard gas and sarin nerve agent, have been found in Iraq since the March 2003 invasion.

But the intelligence officials said the munitions dated from before the 1991 Persian Gulf War and were for the most part badly deteriorated. <b>"They are not in a condition where they could be used as designed,"</b> one intelligence official said.

"There is not new news from the coalition point of view," one official said, noting that <b>chief U.S. weapons inspector Charles Duelfer predicted in a March 2005 report that such vintage weapons would continue to be found.</b> (<i>emphasis mine</i>) </blockquote>

WMD's which are unusable do not constitute the active weapons programs the Bush administration cited as the rationale for invading Iraq. They pose no threat except to anyone who might actually be foolish enough to try and use them.

But don't let inconvenient facts like that intrude on your blind, unquestioning support for President Bush.

 

[Bullypulpit]

You tell us. Is it hard to keep defending liberals and their bad ideas?

Your irrelevance is obvious.

 

[Annie]

<blockquote> <a href=http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/special_packages/iraq/14879521.htm>WASHINGTON</a> - A new, partially declassified intelligence report provides no new evidence that Saddam Hussein had stockpiled weapons of mass destruction on the eve of the U.S.-led invasion, as President Bush alleged in making the case for war, U.S. intelligence officials said Thursday.

The report, made public in the midst of a partisan debate in Congress, says that about 500 munitions containing degraded chemical weapons, including mustard gas and sarin nerve agent, have been found in Iraq since the March 2003 invasion.

But the intelligence officials said the munitions dated from before the 1991 Persian Gulf War and were for the most part badly deteriorated. <b>"They are not in a condition where they could be used as designed,"</b> one intelligence official said.

"There is not new news from the coalition point of view," one official said, noting that <b>chief U.S. weapons inspector Charles Duelfer predicted in a March 2005 report that such vintage weapons would continue to be found.</b> (<i>emphasis mine</i>) </blockquote>

WMD's which are unusable do not constitute the active weapons programs the Bush administration cited as the rationale for invading Iraq. They pose no threat except to anyone who might actually be foolish enough to try and use them.

But don't let inconvenient facts like that intrude on your blind, unquestioning support for President Bush.

So they could store them at your home or the reporter's? Seriously Bully, do you really think Saddam would not have reconstituted the program if he could get the world's eyes off of him? Which was what the French and Russians were arguing for?

 

[dilloduck]

So they could store them at your home or the reporter's? Seriously Bully, do you really think Saddam would not have reconstituted the program if he could get the world's eyes off of him? Which was what the French and Russians were arguing for?

I was thinking that maybe they should put them in a museum in Mass.
I mean what's the harm in that--they not nearly as dangerous as those evil wind energy eyesores.

 

[Bullypulpit]

So they could store them at your home or the reporter's? Seriously Bully, do you really think Saddam would not have reconstituted the program if he could get the world's eyes off of him? Which was what the French and Russians were arguing for?

Which is why the sanctions should have been maintained. As Colin Powell stated in February 2001, they were effective and kept Saddam a toothless lion with regards to neighboring countries. If you remember correctly, it Bush who forced UN weapons inspectors out of Iraq in March '03. Saddam allowed them in in November of '02, with unlimited access.

9/11 gave the Bush administration they needed to invade Iraq, as they falsely linked Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda, and fed the American fears after 9/11 with images of Iraqi NBC weapons with delivery systems which could reach America and her allies. The "Big Lie" in action.

 

[Annie]

Which is why the sanctions should have been maintained. As Colin Powell stated in February 2001, they were effective and kept Saddam a toothless lion with regards to neighboring countries. If you remember correctly, it Bush who forced UN weapons inspectors out of Iraq in March '03. Saddam allowed them in in November of '02, with unlimited access.

9/11 gave the Bush administration they needed to invade Iraq, as they falsely linked Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda, and fed the American fears after 9/11 with images of Iraqi NBC weapons with delivery systems which could reach America and her allies. The "Big Lie" in action.

Bully, you speak as though you are clueless regarding the politics of the situation. You're not. Without the war, sanctions would have been curtailed, we all know that. It was heading that way prior to 9/11, the administration had done nothing to stop that. After 9/11, the administration DID change, but not so the French and Russians.

Inspectors anywhere have a limited lifespan, we all know that too.

 

[Bullypulpit]

Bully, you speak as though you are clueless regarding the politics of the situation. You're not. Without the war, sanctions would have been curtailed, we all know that. It was heading that way prior to 9/11, the administration had done nothing to stop that. After 9/11, the administration DID change, but not so the French and Russians.

Inspectors anywhere have a limited lifespan, we all know that too.

Indeed, the administration did change...from merely incompetent to dangerously so. Bush had the goodwill of the world to draw on in the aftermath of 9/11. Had he used it to its fullest extent, we could have had a stable democracy in Afghanistan and a renewed commitment to keep Saddam's genie in the bottle. Instead, he launched a war of aggression against Iraq based upon the flimsiest of pretexts...Ignored Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions...Set up secret prison around the world...Engaged in Extraordinary renditions...Undermined the US Constituion...And largely turned the US from A super-power to a rogue power as he pissed away every last bit of good will generated after 9/11. Now he foments war with Iran, at least to most of the world, under the same guise of diplomacy as he used to foment war with Iraq.

 

[Annie]

Indeed, the administration did change...from merely incompetent to dangerously so. Bush had the goodwill of the world to draw on in the aftermath of 9/11. Had he used it to its fullest extent, we could have had a stable democracy in Afghanistan and a renewed commitment to keep Saddam's genie in the bottle. Instead, he launched a war of aggression against Iraq based upon the flimsiest of pretexts...Ignored Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions...Set up secret prison around the world...Engaged in Extraordinary renditions...Undermined the US Constituion...And largely turned the US from A super-power to a rogue power as he pissed away every last bit of good will generated after 9/11. Now he foments war with Iran, at least to most of the world, under the same guise of diplomacy as he used to foment war with Iraq.

There was a time I thought you had the welfare of the US at heart. No longer so sure of that. So, what is it we're doing wrong with Iran now, offering incentives?

You have offered nothing to speak to the pre-9/11 administration take on foreign affairs, which I could find plenty to critize; namely they didn't want to deal with 'foreign affairs' other than trade. The pap about Iraq contingenty plans prior to 9/11 as an indictment that there was a 'plan' to get Saddam, has always been so much pap. There were and are plans to 'deal with' England, Israel, and Canada too.