Future in Europe

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    The recent controversy in the Ukraine as well as the bombings in Madrid and other events have me thinking alittle. Western Europe is decaying. Its being weighed down by the socialist ideals in their governments. These ideals weigh the people down in a heavy bondage. We have just seen the people of the Ukraine stand up against socialist pressures. We are watching as Putin looks as though he intends to rebuild the soviet empire with him as the first Czar since the revolution. Meanwhile we fight the terrorists while Europe, for the most part, tries all they can to appease them. This makes me believe that Europe is about to explode with violence and Chaos.

    I believe in God above. I know He watches us and protects us. I also know that sometimes He allows us to face trials to strengthen us for the challenges ahead of us. I think Europe is about to be reawakened back to the world we live much like 911 woke us. But i think they may be facing something that will make 911 look like a picnic. Im not saying that God is going to cause such actions or that He caused 911. cause i dont believe that. I do think He allows people to face that consequences of their actions though and i think the Europeans for the most part have slept through this danger to civilization.

    We live in interesting times. we are about to see things so great that mankind will never forget our tie and we are about to see things so horrible that will want to throw up just thinking about it. the time will come shortly that Europe will break out in war and terrorist will threaten the security of the European nations as much as they threaten Israel. Likely we may be drawn into such a battle. I hope not but history has a way of repeating itself. Europe is a powderkeg almost ready to explode. I just hope we still have the resolve to be a city on the hill if and when its happens. I think it will be soon.
     
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    I can only hope that you are wrong about this. Of course they have been predicting the US will implode for about 250 years.

    The question that I have is do you think this will change their socialist views? I think it may just strengthen them. Wait until China starts producing everything that they produce, see how high their tarriffs are. This will start the powderkeg rolling. Tarriffs never solve economic issues, occassionally they will prolong the issue but most times protectionist practices only bring the recession on stronger.
     
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    for those who think that Europe is near the Chaos, come here dears and you 'll see.....the european cooperation is a great thing, the french-german alliance is very well, France and UK are nearer, and the "european constitution" has some threads about the european defense. And there is already an "eurocorps", with french and german soliders.

    Europe is not about to explose, the EU not at all. MAybe the Blakans, but the european soldiers will be here soon.
     
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    like they are in darfur?
    like they should have been in chechyna?
    like they should be in iraq, and in much larger numbers in afghanistan (like they've promised?)

    face it, europe is a joke... the US saved bosnia and kosovo while you all doodled around with a thumb up your ass... we'll probably end up saving darfur as well, again, with you guys with a thumb up your ass...
     
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    Maybe Europe won't explode. Maybe it will just continue to rot.
     
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    We haven't even seen the HALF of it. With the economic conditions going the way they are, people practically rioting when some benefit gets cut to save the treasuries from bankruptcy, the influx of Muslim immigrants, Europe is going to crash alot harder than this.

    EDIT: I of course forgot the most important thing: Their tendancy to place the blame for their problems on everyone but themselves.
     
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    the UE is above all an economical organisation.
    in 1957 with the treaty of Rome, it was an economical cooperation...
    Afetr, with it evolution, the EEC became the EU more politic, a stronger cooperation, with the EURO....so the first aim of the EU is not the war.

    And in Kosovo, my dear, US were a lot, but French were second and british third, in number of soldiers and planes, and I don't know if there is still now US soldiers in Balkans. Because there are a lot of european soldiers....
    If you make the war, in it, and go away before the peace ops, it is cowardice : in this kind of wars (kosovo, irak'....) the victory makes no doubt, but the peace is harder to win......
    And if the peace is now in Balkans, it is not because the US do it........


    But why do you think that Europe will explode ?
    In Europe there are the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th more mighty country of the world (Germany France UK Italy).
    strong alliance (germany and france), and alliance who will be stronger soon (Uk france)......



    Why are you, on this board, alwxays speaking of war between France and USA Europe and USA, war between China and USA, chaos in Europe............are you wishing the Apocalypse ? do you want a good war to enjoy yourself ? and why never speaking of :
    Are USA going to chaos ?
    hmmmmmm....good question....
     
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    Ahh, I dunno. Probly just wishful thinking on my part. A man can daydream, can't he?

    The USA going to chaos? If the USA is descending into Chaos, Europe is in the middle of the End Times.
     
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    That Muslim problem you mention is certainly becoming much more problematic.

    The Van Gogh murder: "All it took was a film and a murder to turn centuries of Dutch tolerance into fear and intolerance. "
    http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/news/041214a.asp

    Bringing Turkey into the EU has sparked some real concern about the immigrating Muslim populations.

    German Chancellor Gerhard Shroeder has spoken of "parallel societies" with regard to the 3.5 million Muslims in Germany. The Germans watched on TV as an incendiary speech was delivered by an imam in a Berlin mosque promising that "the German non-believers would burn in hell." This week, German police raided dozens of apartments and offices attributed to the Al Aqsa organization, which funnels financial donations to Hamas.

    France has the biggest Muslim population in Europe with almost five million Muslims. The huge uproar about the headscarves is indicative of the religious tensions.

    Spain is reconsidering its views about Muslims especially after the train bombings which killed almost 200.

    The anti-semitism in Europe is becoming worse and is becoming a problem for Europe as well as the Jews as the multi-culturalism causes more problems.

    http://www.eubusiness.com/afp/041214020830.rauas12a
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/513999.html
     
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    Because France had a lot of colonies in muslims countries. But the problem of the headscarves is not so big as it appears.

    In fact, only a few minority refuse to don't wear it at school. maybe between 400 and 600 people.......about maybe 1 millions muslim girls..........not a lot, really.
     

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