Further proof that DeLay's brain is defective

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    Comparing the current state of Iraq to a major U.S. city?
    This person has truly lost his mind.

    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3235606


    WASHINGTON - When House Majority Leader Tom DeLay sat down with reporters on Tuesday on Capitol Hill, he was asked to assess President Bush's campaign in Iraq and to respond to criticism that the military mission is not going well and the White House needs to develop an exit strategy.

    DeLay offered this response: "These things take time and they take a long time, and some people get weary of the constant barrage that we see in the media.

    "You know, if Houston, Texas, was held to the same standard as Iraq is held to, nobody'd go to Houston, because all this reporting coming out of the local press in Houston is violence, murders, robberies, deaths on the highways," DeLay said.

    "And if you took that as the image of what is a great city that has an incredible quality of life and an incredible economy, it's amazing to me. Go to Iraq. And see what's actually happening there.

    "Everybody that comes from Iraq is amazed at the difference of what they see on the ground and what they see on the television set."
     
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    I think the comparison was to how stuff is reported, not to the actual city itself.

    If you whitewashed the name from the stories about Houston, and started talking about deaths caused simply by the "War on Drugs" reporting only the thousands of deaths each year would people be asking, "Is it worth it?" and "What is our exit strategy?"
     
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    um....right.
    :2guns: :death:
     
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    Excellent reposte! :rolleyes:
     
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    Having grown up in Houston, I can totally understand what he means. There are murders, robberies, drug deals, rapes, etc. in Houston quite often. That stuff is always in the local news. Remember the lady that drowned her five kids in the bathtub due to depression? She lived in Houston.

    But Houston does have some great stuff in it. Lots of good restaurants, fun nightlife, Super Bowls, pro sports, parks, zoos, etc. etc. But you'll never see that on the news, because it is a normal part of life.

    I think DeLay's analogy was just fine.
     
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    Im sure this gabriel fello is a real winner and worthy of a response, but here goes.

    I believe what DeLay is reffering to is that if the MEdia bombarded the public with news of trajedy everyday from anyplace in America or outside of it, then people might began to feel weary of that place.

    The #1 rule in Advertising is repitition, repitition, repitition. You may not remember that pepsi commercial the first time, but you'll damn sure remember it the 30th time. Same thing applies to the news. When they want you to remember something, they hit on it for a good long time in slightly varied stories. Therefore you remember it after awhile and it is enbedded into the back of your head. Unless of course you care to pay attention to what really is going on.
     
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    Gabby, please explain what you dislike about DeLays statement...what you find inappropriate about it.

    His point was simple. There are positive things happening in Iraq. Things are getting done. Iraqi Police Forces are having numerous successes defending their nation on their own, people are rebuilding their lives, neighborhoods are turning in insurgents. Yet very little of this is being reported.

    Instead, we are bombarded by constant negative images and messages about the latest attacks.

    If we looked at a major U.S. city, like Houston, and reported ONLY the negative messages. The robberies, murders, etc. Then Houston, a fully-functioning U.S. city, would also look horribly dangerous, about to crumble, desperate and terrible.

    He is not saying that Houston IS like that. He is stating that the media has a big role in determining how something appears to the general public. By only showing the burning buildings and ignoring all the buildings being built...the world is missing the positive things that are happening there.

    Notice, Gabby. He didn't say that negative, horrible things were not happening. He isn't stating that we shouldn't hear about the negative things. He simply was stating that there are positive things happening that we are not being told about.

    Now, if you are TRULY interested in the truth, in all sides to a story, the an HONEST assessment of the war...YOU should be just as insistent for this information as DeLay is. YOU should want to know the positives AND the negatives. But you only seem interested in the negatives...and you mock anyone who wants to see the positives...Why is that?
     
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    Don't forget the daily car bombings.
     
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    The media does do this. I live outside Dallas and everyday their is a murder or a home invasion or a policeman plants drugs on a recent immigrant or a teacher sexually assualts a student, etc.

    However, these isloated incidents don't compare with the fact that in the past 9 months, there have been around 800 suicide bombers in Iraq. This does not compare to the crime in any US metropolis.
     
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    menewa wrote:
    This statement might have some relevance to the conversation if Delay had stated that Houston and Iraq were experiencing similar violence levels. He did not.

    What he said was...even in a wonderful, safe city like Houston...the media has the power, by choosing only to relate the negative, to make the city look like hell on earth.

    Therefore...in a nation like Iraq, where there are acts of horrible violence occur numerous times every day...the media has an even greater ability to show only negative and completely ignore the postive things that are going on there.

    With that in mind, the average American hears, sees, reads about ONLY the negative things in Iraq, and rarely if ever hear about what our troops, the Iraqi police force, and the Iraqi people have accomplished.
     

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