Furor Erupts Over Atheist Display At State Capitol

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    We have had this debate over issues of religious displays and celebrations often. It would seem intolerance of another is only recognized in the other. So what to think of this?

    Furor Erupts Over Atheist Display At Illinois State Capitol - cbs2chicago.com

    "The sign reads: "At the time of the winter solstice, let reason prevail. There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven or hell. There is only our natural world. Religion is just myth and superstition that hardens hearts and enslaves minds.""
     
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    Intolerance? The sign blares intolerance. But then facts never were your strong point. He was wrong to try and take it down, though I agree it should sit away from the Christmas tree.
     
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    I am all for free speech, so if you must, by all means, but still think about this, maybe Christmas, or Winter Solstice, (Summer Solstice down here) is a time to say what you believe in, what you love and care about, not argue about why you think other people are wrong to believe in what they love and care about.

    If you can not handle that few weeks out of the year than why not just enjoy the shopping sales?
     
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    So let me see if i understand you correctly:

    Christians, Jews, or any other religion having a public display of their faith is intolerant of others.

    Athiests publically insulting everyone is an example of tolerance to you.

    Makes perfect sense.

    Just so you know, if you want people to be tolerant of what you believe and do, then dont piss them off by going out of your way to insult them.
     
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    Let see---If atheism is a religion, and its proponents spread atheism, what message should they say that implies no Gods, Heaven or hell yet is politically correct enough not to anger believers??



    I do not know--so let us just stick to no public display of religious beliefs, OK?
     
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    There is a big difference between a religious display and a protest sign. Yes, it is a religious issue, but it is a protest that sparked the problem. You atheists need to realize that there is a God, and He is your God as well as ours.

    Protesting religion and displaying it are not the same thing. I think there is a place for both, but the atheists need to realize that it works both ways. You guys protest our faith and proclamation of it, but you never seem to just tolerate it. You preach tolerance and hypocritically plaster intolerance all over everything.

    While I think I would have tried another approach, I don't think you have anything to complain about since atheists are the ones who are starting all the religious wars everywhere anyway.
     
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    There is something that I have always found puzzling--when an one talks of God, what comes to their mind? Is it Magical clouds, A person with many wings? An emotion? An object? A method to live by? A building, An item, an idea?

    I always found this question wierd. Is God conscious or unconscious? Did God create the universe or is God apart of the universe? Well, depending on how one approach the question "What is God?" the question of belief/disbelief in a person is determined by the answer to that question..

    So when you say "There is a God" what do you really mean--because I have yet to realize your concept of what God is.
     
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    God is everything, god is nothing.
     
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    Interesting replies. My take on it was if you are going to allow one person the right to post their beliefs then allow all. But I see the contrary position too, if one simply criticizes the other then that is wrong. But is it? And why. Some Christians do not celebrate Christmas, so could they then post a sign saying these other Christians are wrong? Why not and how would that differ from the atheist? ( I'm playing devil advocate here as I actually go to the wonderful services this time of year. We may not believe as you do but we still enjoy the ceremony and song.)
     
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