Funny how Alex Jones knew about 9/11 happening

[eots]

where did anyone one say planes did not hit the towers ????

 

[cad]

where did anyone one say planes did not hit the towers ????

Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

what else is he implying by that statement?

 

[eots]

as many experts do he questions what hit the pentagon ..but your question to me where what were NORADS failures

Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career.
Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.
Video interview 6/28/09:

General Stubblebine: I am Major General Albert Stubblebine. I am retired Army Major-General. In my last assignment -- my last command -- I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world. I had responsibility for the Signals Intelligence, Photo Intelligence, Counter Intelligence, Human Intelligence. They all belonged to me, in my last assignment. …

I was supposed to find out what the enemy was doing, before the enemy did it so that we could take action against the enemy. That's Intelligence, OK, before the fact. So, we always -- always -- rely not on a single piece of data, before we make a statement, but on multiple and the more pieces of data that you have that correlate, the better you know exactly what is going on. …

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daNr_TrBw6E]YouTube - General of all American Intelligence: 911 was a fraud![/ame]

 

[Mad Scientist]

Alex Jones thinks the next false flag operation will be a staged assassination attempt on Obama. I'm not necessarily agreeing with him, just posting it for your conspiracy video pleasure.

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[cad]

i'm having trouble following

the video is about a guy who doesn't believe a plane hit the pentagon.
the paragraph about NORAD seems to say there is not way 4 planes could have been hijacked without being intercepted.
you also said we aided the terrorists by not detaining them once we knew what they were up to.

so we aid them by letting them hijack the planes , aid them by not shooting them down (well,we do shoot down one of them) but then again what about flight 77? if a plane didn't hit thepentagon, like your video suggests, what happened to the flight?

again, what were we trying to cover up at pentagon that we needed to hit it with a missile?

 

[eots]

i'm having trouble following

the video is about a guy who doesn't believe a plane hit the pentagon.
The paragraph about norad seems to say there is not way 4 planes could have been hijacked without being intercepted.
You also said we aided the terrorists by not detaining them once we knew what they were up to.

So we aid them by letting them hijack the planes , aid them by not shooting them down (well,we do shoot down one of them) but then again what about flight 77? If a plane didn't hit thepentagon, like your video suggests, what happened to the flight?

Again, what were we trying to cover up at pentagon that we needed to hit it with a missile?

as the general said along with many other top level military experts ...what hit the pentagon is the question..as the evidence
is not consistent with that of a commercial airliner

 

[cad]

so answer my questions, because it doesn't add up.

the one post from the GE engineer seems to suggest that if a plane hit even the towers, there would be evidence that hasn't been found. say something like that, and it makes me believe he's suggesting planes didn't hit the towers.

and its obvious you're suggesting planes didn't hit the pentagon.

how does that fit in with your suggestions that the government aided the terrorists by not detaining them? why did we hit the pentagon? what happened to flight 77?

if the goal (as you say) was to get us in to war and pass shit like the patriot act, why interfere with the attack? if we knew they were going to use planes as weapons, why not just let them? why shoot down the flight over pennsylvania, or why the need to shoot a missile in to the pentagon and make the flight disappear somehow?

can you help me tie up some of these loose ends?

 

[eots]

no but a real investigation would..I believe the in the case of flight 93 the shoot down occurred because it could no longer be delayed or had gone off target...but to me these are not the most relevant questions ...the relevant questions are what is the evidence to support the official conspiracy theory and what is being covered up

 

[cad]

do you believe that 19 men hijacked 4 planes on 9/11?

 

[eots]

do you believe that 19 men hijacked 4 planes on 9/11?

I dont know...it appears some number of people took control of 4 commercial aircraft that day

 

[cad]

do you believe that 19 men hijacked 4 planes on 9/11?

I dont know...it appears some number of people took control of 4 commercial aircraft that day

okay, this is what doesn't make sense to me.

if the goal of some group of people in the government was to have the american people so scared by the events of 9/11 they would support wars in the middle east and stand by as the government took over their civil liberties...

why not just let the terrorist give it their best shot on their own?

the fact that terrorists could hijack four planes and crash them anywhere in lower manhattan and near the pentagon (let alone where the 4th plane was headed) would have been enough to scare the shit ot a lot of americans. if the planes did hit the towers, why the need for explosives (as some claim there were) can't you argue that if seeing two burnt out towers hovering over the manhattan skyline would be just as devastating as watching them fall, it would be prettty close. who could go back to work in them knowing thousands of people died above you?

it just seems like whoever was involved in the government was risking an awful lot (how many people would have to be involved in a coverup of that nature?) to gain relatively little.

 

[eots]

do you believe that 19 men hijacked 4 planes on 9/11?

I dont know...it appears some number of people took control of 4 commercial aircraft that day

okay, this is what doesn't make sense to me.

if the goal of some group of people in the government was to have the american people so scared by the events of 9/11 they would support wars in the middle east and stand by as the government took over their civil liberties..

why not just let the terrorist give it their best shot on their own?

why have any wild cards ? why have a uncontrolled event with unpredictable results if you can have one you can control ?... one that is profitable

The fact that terrorists could hijack four planes and crash them anywhere in lower manhattan and near the pentagon (let alone where the 4th plane was headed) would have been enough to scare the shit ot a lot of americans. if the planes did hit the towers, why the need for explosives (as some claim there were) can't you argue that if seeing two burnt out towers hovering over the manhattan skyline would be just as devastating as watching them fall, it would be prettty close. who could go back to work in them knowing thousands of people died above you?

most of the deaths occurred in the collapse..and then you would be stuck with two costly dinosaurs that would most likely need to come down except it would be required to be done safely and without poisoning the clean up workers

it just seems like whoever was involved in the government was risking an awful lot (how many people would have to be involved in a coverup of that nature?) to gain relatively little

risk ?...you mean like using false Intel to invade another nation ? ...or like the risk of lying about Tillman or lynch for a little propaganda ?... trillions of dollars is little gain ?..I believe the number of people involved would be much less than you think...Wheres is bin laden ?...how many people are involved in his conspiracy of terror ?...why despite multi million dollar rewards and the weight of american and European intelligence upon him are his whereabouts unknown ..the secrets ...

 

[cad]

I dont know...it appears some number of people took control of 4 commercial aircraft that day

okay, this is what doesn't make sense to me.



why have any wild cards ? why have a uncontrolled event with unpredictable results if you can have one you can control ?... one that is profitable




most of the deaths occurred in the collapse..and then you would be stuck with two costly dinosaurs that would most likely need to come down except it would be required to be done safely and without poisoning the clean up workers




risk ?...you mean like using false Intel to invade another nation ? ...or like the risk of lying about Tillman or lynch for a little propaganda ?... trillions of dollars is little gain ?..I believe the number of people involved would be much less than you think...Wheres is bin laden ?...how many people are involved in his conspiracy of terror ?...why despite multi million dollar rewards and the weight of american and European intelligence upon him are his whereabouts unknown ..the secrets ...

the whole point of terrorism is chaos and unpredictability. if you have intel that terrorists are going to hijackplanes and fly them into buildings, why not just let them? so what if they miss their targets, in NYC and DC they're still going to kill thousands.

to the people who died in WTC, yes they died because of the fall, but i believe the vast majority of those who survived were below the impacted floors, and basically everyone above died. many of them still would have died if the towers had stood. how long would it have taken for rescuers to reach them? hours right? if the smoke wasn't that bad, people wouldn't have been jumping.

if you're one who believes the WTC were demolished by explosives, how were they put there? by whom? when?

who PROFITED from the attacks? who made trillions of dollars?

you don't think the coverup would be that big? you think a few people could have pulled this off?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Instead of asking all these questions cad,why dont you watch these 65 videos here like one every day or so? Most of your answers to your questions can be found by doing that.
Canada 9/11 Truth - Video Library

I can always find out who is REALLY interested in the truth or not from these videos.The OCTA'S here always make up excuses not to take me up on my challenge to watch those videos and tell me whats wrong with them,why they dont debunk the official story.They never will even watch even one of them.Thats HARDLY the way to debate.I "always" watch a video anytime someone challanges me to because thats the proper way to debate.they wont say whats wrong with them because they know they cant refute them. also you should read the book DEBUNKING THE 9/11 DEBUNKING,an answer to popular mechanics and other defenders of the official conspiracy theory.ANOTHER challenge the OCTAS around here always refuse to take me up on. I dont answer questions anymore myself because I have never once found anyone on the net cross over and became convinced it was an inside job and like i said,if they were REALLY interested in the truth,then they would watch those videos.

In real life its a different story,I tell people the facts of the case and they see those videos and they immediately see it was an inside job.Till I see people crossing over on the net and become convinced I stay away from answering their questions because they just come up with more excuses to try and convince themselves it wasnt an inside job.

oh and yes some of those people would have perished in the towers above from the jet impact,not all of them would have gotten out of course,the fires were oxygen starved emitting black smoke, so yes the fires were hardly hot enough to even weaken steel. other skycrapers have burned for HOURS in the past before 9/11 and were lit up like a torch and they did not collapse.The towers were not even close to being lit up like a torch as the photos prove.some of the people above probably thought they could not get past the fires and the firemen would be too late and thats why they jumped but without the explosives going off,there wouldnt have been anywhere near the amount of 3000 plus dying that day.

 

[cad]

how many different theories do these 65 videos put forth?
is there only one?

just give me a brief, one paragraph rundown, and i will watch some of your videos. just answer a few of my questions, (which should take about two minutes) and i'll watch your videos.

who was the original planner of 9/11? when were the plans started?
were any planes hijacked by islamic terrorists?
what hit the WTC/pentagon, was the 4th plane shot down? were the towers demolished by explosives?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

how many different theories do these 65 videos put forth?
is there only one?

just give me a brief, one paragraph rundown, and i will watch some of your videos. just answer a few of my questions, (which should take about two minutes) and i'll watch your videos.

who was the original planner of 9/11? when were the plans started?
were any planes hijacked by islamic terrorists?
what hit the WTC/pentagon, was the 4th plane shot down? were the towers demolished by explosives?

yes there is only one.They all say the same thing that it was an inside job.In the "Plane insite" video, I think it gives good evidence that it was a remote controlled aircraft drone that hit the towers.Some people say thats absurd, but thats because they dont know the capabilitys of what the government can do or are aware that pilots have said it could only be a military drone because when you look at the underbelly of the plane hitting tower,it has something attached to the bottom of its underside and pilots have said commercial airliners dont have anything like that attached to the bottom of them. the first video to start out watching in the beginning I always tell beginners is 9/11 mysteries,then in plane site,and then go from there.you going to be an OCTA and believe the government and media,or expert pilots?


as far as the original planner of 9/11? It wasnt Bush or Clinton,it was the Rothchilds.Them and the Rockefellers are who is mainly behind events like this.They were behind The Kennedy assassination as well.The president is just a puppet.Clinton and Bush are buddies so Clinton was just taking orders from Bush sr when they tried in 93 but failed and so was Bush jr.Bush sr takes his orders from the Rockefellers and Rothchilds,they are always behind major tragedys like these.

No none of the planes were highjacked by Islamic terrorists,they have never proven any of that.

It was a military Drone aircraft that hit the world trade center towers.as to what happened to the original flights,we dont know,thats why there needs to be a new investigation.a REAL investigation.we'll never know till then.and it was obviously a missile that hit the pentagon fired by a drone aircraft. Yes we know that the fourth plane was shot down because the crash was inconsistant with a plane crash with debris scattered over 8 miles long and there was no evidence from an airliner crashing in that big hole they said where it crashed.Terral has proved that in at least a couple of his threads he has made.

and finally,uh yeah,its a known fact now that explosoves brought the towers down. oh and just so you know,its a known fact also that Cheney and Bush profited major big time from the attacks.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

This is something I posted over on malcontents good thread I thought needs to be posted here as well since the OCTA'S like Tom Clancy wont watch the video.

yeah its kinda funny how neither Bush or his buddy Clinton ever had any interest in Bin Laden or terrorism. Like Eots showed with his link,FBI counter terrorism expert John O Neil when he was begging his superiours in the FBI to look at his leads,they just turned a blind eye to it and ignored him and when two different countries offered to extradict Bin Laden to the United States under Clinton,he told his top brass to lay off of Bin Laden and to let him go.And as everybody knows,the first nine months when Bush got sworn into office,he ignored warnings from other countrys there were going to be terrorists attacks.He had no interest in them.Only taking his long vacations he was on in Texas. Pretty convient for Bush and Clinton how O'Neil died on 9/11. just a coincidence most people around here will chalk it up to.
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-Could We Have Prevented 9/11?


hmmm, Clinton never had any interest in binnie laden?

What Clinton Did Wrong
Page 225: Went too easy on the CIA. "He had given the CIA unprecedented authority to go after bin Laden personally and Al Qaeda, but had not taken steps when they did little or nothing." (Clarke, however, goes pretty easy on Clinton for this failing: "Because Clinton was criticized as a Vietnam War opponent without a military record, he was limited in his ability to direct the military to engage in anti-terrorist commando operations.")

the problem with Dante's fairy tales is that it was all over the mainstream media news broadcasts showing a top ranking General stating that Clinton told him and the army to lay off Bin Laden and not go after him and its also a well known fact that two different countries offered to extradict him but Clinton had no interest.Danta falls for fairy tales all the time like that Oswald killed Kennedy so he will believe ANYTHING thats told to him and like all OCTA'S ignore the evidence I presented to him.Dante is also an idiot in the fact that he believes what Richard Clarke tells him since Clarke is part of the coverup as well. He cant get around what that general said on live tv when Clinton was president.

Danta like all OCTA'S do all the time,show how dense he is by automatically assuming because someone in the government told him it happened this way,its automatically true and ignores what a general said on national tv.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I always find it funny of the 9/11 official conspiracy theory apologists around here that defend the official version to no end, how they ignore the fact that Alex Jones knew
9/11 was going to happen saying it was going to happen two months before it actually did happen.He knew they were going to happen yet somehow the government did not know and people around here call Alex Jones the nutcase. Dont see how he is so loony seeing how he knew the events were going to happen and tried to warn authoritys and they did not want to listen to him. Granted he comes across nutty in his shows but there are many level heads out there such as David Ray Griffith for instance that dont get all nutty like he does and yet people call them loonys as well.

Alex Jones as you can see in this video below,not only predicted that 9/11 would happen,but also said on his radio show back then telling the american people not to believe what you hear from the government,that everybody listening because of his false flag terrorist operations he talked about on his show,to know it was the government behind it like they usually always are.Video below shows it all.Of course most people here wont watch it.but its there to look it below.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVDBPsluiSYouTube - 9/11 - The Road To Tyranny (Part 1)[/url

the FBI was in on the 1993 bombing of the WTC and it was in the news? I missed that one.

yeah thats because your too afraid of the truth about government conspiracys and like all OCTA'Syou have the logic because the government and media said it happened this way,that makes it automatically true.doesnt matter to you OCTA's what the experts in their fields say,only what THOSE officials say.that logic is priceless!!!!

Funny how the corporate controlled media never investigates REAL news,they consider O.J SIMPSON to be so much important news that it needs to be on the front pages of newspapers for an entire year,yet a news item like that gets buried and ignored by the corporate controlled owned media.Gee, what great news reporting we have here in the states. a REAL investigative news source would have covered O.J SIMPSON for ONE day and put him on the back cover and that would have been it and the FBI funding Salem to build the bomb should have been on the front pages of the newspapers for years.Instead it was the other way around.its so nice to know we have such great journalists out there who consider O.J.SIMPSON to be front page news worthy but the FBI funding Salem to be news only worth mentioning briefly and ignored after that.That so much makes me feel good about our media here.

 

[cad]

how many different theories do these 65 videos put forth?
is there only one?

just give me a brief, one paragraph rundown, and i will watch some of your videos. just answer a few of my questions, (which should take about two minutes) and i'll watch your videos.

who was the original planner of 9/11? when were the plans started?
were any planes hijacked by islamic terrorists?
what hit the WTC/pentagon, was the 4th plane shot down? were the towers demolished by explosives?

yes there is only one.They all say the same thing that it was an inside job.In the "Plane insite" video, I think it gives good evidence that it was a remote controlled aircraft drone that hit the towers.Some people say thats absurd, but thats because they dont know the capabilitys of what the government can do or are aware that pilots have said it could only be a military drone because when you look at the underbelly of the plane hitting tower,it has something attached to the bottom of its underside and pilots have said commercial airliners dont have anything like that attached to the bottom of them. the first video to start out watching in the beginning I always tell beginners is 9/11 mysteries,then in plane site,and then go from there.you going to be an OCTA and believe the government and media,or expert pilots?


as far as the original planner of 9/11? It wasnt Bush or Clinton,it was the Rothchilds.Them and the Rockefellers are who is mainly behind events like this.They were behind The Kennedy assassination as well.The president is just a puppet.Clinton and Bush are buddies so Clinton was just taking orders from Bush sr when they tried in 93 but failed and so was Bush jr.Bush sr takes his orders from the Rockefellers and Rothchilds,they are always behind major tragedys like these.

No none of the planes were highjacked by Islamic terrorists,they have never proven any of that.

It was a military Drone aircraft that hit the world trade center towers.as to what happened to the original flights,we dont know,thats why there needs to be a new investigation.a REAL investigation.we'll never know till then.and it was obviously a missile that hit the pentagon fired by a drone aircraft. Yes we know that the fourth plane was shot down because the crash was inconsistant with a plane crash with debris scattered over 8 miles long and there was no evidence from an airliner crashing in that big hole they said where it crashed.Terral has proved that in at least a couple of his threads he has made.

and finally,uh yeah,its a known fact now that explosoves brought the towers down. oh and just so you know,its a known fact also that Cheney and Bush profited major big time from the attacks.

so two of the richest families in the world get together (is this iluminati?) and say, we're both worth hundreds of billions, but we need to make more money. let's plan an attack on the US and blame it on islamic terrorists. that way we can bring the US in to war and make even more money. the president and VP will go along with this because they will both make money.

how much were the rothchilds and rockefellers worth in 2001? how much in 2008?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

FBI'S TIPSTER SAID HE BUILT BOMB IN N.Y.

The government informant in the alleged conspiracy to blow up New York City landmarks has said he built the deadly bomb that was detonated in February at the World Trade Center, tape transcripts show.
The tapes were recorded secretly by the informant, former Egyptian army officer Emad Salem, during conversations with FBI agent John Anticev.Speaking with the agent about his expenses last April, Salem defended the costs by saying they were pushed higher by the building of the bomb.


FBI'S TIPSTER SAID HE BUILT N.Y. BOMB

as usual,Dante gets OWNED major big time but is too scared to admit it of course.