Full body scans & cavity searches for muslims only

Vote for how the TSA should check passengers.....

  • treat everyone the same, no profiling allowed.

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • Follow what the Israelis do, which is to USE PROFILING

    Votes: 11 64.7%
  • Use profiling, full-body scans AND cavity searches of muslims

    Votes: 1 5.9%
  • Just prohibit muslims from flying until terrorism ends

    Votes: 1 5.9%

  • Total voters
    17

kyzr

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Looking at today's hot topic........its that we are all required to undergo a full body scan or a "pat-down" before boarding a plane.

Lets take a poll to see how we prefer to use the TSA security apparatus, we can either do all of us haphazardly, or the most probable terrorists thoroughly....like the Israelis....
 
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profiling is not just looking at who, but looking at behaviors.

The Israelis don't just go "That person is an arab, lets target him." They look at males between 20 and 35, traveling alone, being uncommunicative and acting out in unusual ways. Such as arriving together and then separating but watching each other closely. People who are jumpy and nervous about folks sitting to near to them.

what does not work is looking for guys in arab dress. there are lots of rational ways to profile, and lots of silly ways too.

So we should learn the profile and apply it, but not let silly triumph over good sense
 
If only Arab men aged 20 to 35 were capable of hijacking planes I'd be all for it. Since they're not and just about every racial group that exists has had at least one idiot commit a dangerous crime on a plane I say, everybody should be treated the same.

Arab/Islamic terrorism is not the only thing we should be searching people for on planes. People commit crimes for a variety of reasons.
 
How do you know if they are muslim?

Would you scan this guy:

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Or this guy:

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Or this guy:

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Or this guy:

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How do you know if they are muslim?

Would you scan this guy:

ellison.jpg


Or this guy:

ravi.jpg


Or this guy:

l-men+manhunt+indonesia+2006+yudi+1.jpg


Or this guy:

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A. Rep. Keith Ellison (MN) - muslim
B. Random Google Image Search of an Indian man named "Ravi", presumed non-muslim.
C. Random Google Image Search of an Indonesian man, presumed muslim.
D. David Hicks, Australian-born Al Qaeda-trained Taliban combatant.

If you profiled for the person that looks "muslim", you'd probably scan "Ravi", and then David Hicks would end up blowing up the plane, killing a US Representative from Minnesota.
 
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israeli's don't rely on proflling

and here's why:

The Investigative Project has reviewed the sensitive, but unclassified, assessment, Female Suicide Bombers, which puts the attacks in Russia in the context of a broader threat. Referencing open source reporting, the primary finding of the threat assessment is that:

"al Qa'ida terror cells have trained a group of female suicide bombers to attack Western targets including airlines. These women may have a non Arab appearance and may be traveling on Western passports."

Read more at: The Growing Threat from Female Suicide Bombers :: The Investigative Project on Terrorism

but thanks for your honesty in admitting all the whining is a racist issue. I at least can respect the candor.
 
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you do realize Islam is a religion and not a skin color, right? Or do you want everyone to answer a short questionnaire about their religion before boarding to find all the Muslims? Guess which option won't ever get checked.
 
You know what is said? That so many people voted for profiling.
I guess it is alright if the government is involved in other people's lives.
 
As Jillian noted, the Israelis don't profile for appearance, but for behavior.


Given the range of appearances that go through Israeli airports, And Israel's large Arab population that is not suicide bombers, they have found other more productive ways to profile.
 
OK, here's the plan.

1. All those who do not want to go through full security screening will remain outside the secure areas of the airport. They will not be able to mix with passengers who have been screened. They will fly on separate airplanes filled with other people who have opted out of security screening. They may be delayed a few weeks while we find a pilot willing to fly them.

2. Those who agree to a full security screening can proceed to their gates and get on with their business.

Guess which plane I'll be on.......
 

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